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For this post, I'm focusing on two similar soaps offered by Koch Chemie, Ceramic Effect Shampoo (CES) and Nano Magic Shampoo (NMS). I always assumed Nano Magic was a ceramic wash-n-wax, but then they recently introduced CES, so its hard to know what the difference is between the two is. So, this post is as much for my own curiosity as it is for those reading.
Koch Chemie Nano Magic Shampoo
This product is sold in both the white bottle professional range, as well as the blue bottle consumer line. The pro version has only been sold in 5- and 10-litre drums, so for most, you will be looking at the 750ml blue bottle. (1-litre bottles of the white bottle are available overseas)
Like all of these soaps, Nano Magic is a combined shampoo and protectant, killing two birds with one stone. I can't determine what KCx are using in this soap to provide that protection, only that it leaves "a long-lasting, hydrophobic nanolayer". The best way I can describe it would be to think of Nano Magic as the polymer-based S0.02 spray sealant, while Ceramic Effect Shampoo would be like an Si02 spray sealant such as Carpro Reload.
Spec wise, Nano Magic has a pH of 5.0 and said to "preserve" existing waxes, sealants and coatings". Occasional use will in theory extend the life of those protectants, or it can be used on vehicles without protection to improve hydrophobics and gloss. I always say with these soaps to not expect miracles, if your paint is heavily neglected, the use of Nano Magic is not going to transform the car into a concours winner. But, with occasional use they can certainly boost gloss, slickness and protection.
How To Use -
Nano Magic can be used in a foam cannon or bucket, just don't expect shaving cream-like foam. I've always foamed it on, then contact washed while still on the paint.
1. Shake the bottle well before dispensing.
2. For foam cannons, add 900ml of water and 100ml of Nano Magic to the cannister. For bucket washing, add 100ml to 10-litres of water. (See notes below)
3. Foam the entire vehicle and/or commence the contact wash. If washing in the sun or on a hot day, I'd probably break the vehicle into sections.
4. Rinse thoroughly then dry.
Usage Notes -
- From experience, I've found Koch Chemie's dilution ratios very lean when it comes to soaps. For example, they recommend a 200:1 bucket or foam cannon dilution ratio, which works out at 50ml to a 10-litre bucket or 5ml to 995ml of water in a foam cannon, which is just not going to do anything. I would double that to 100ml in both cases.
- Like most products of this type, you will find Nano Magic to be a low foaming, low suds soap. The foam quality is a runny film.
- While still slick, you will notice a slight "stickiness" underneath the wash media.
- If your vehicle is ultra dirty, this probably isn't going to be your best choice. I'd at least pre-soak with something like Bilt Hamber Touch-less or Koch Chemie Active Foam first.
- While its a relatively mild shampoo, the "protection" in it means you would avoid allowing it to dry on the surface.
- Suitable for matte surfaces/paint
- KCx suggest Nano Magic will last approximately two weeks.
Koch Chemie Ceramic Effect Shampoo
This is one of Koch Chemie's latest products and has only just made its debut in Australia. The concept of CES is the same as Nano Magic, however it uses a more modern Si02 formula. With a slightly higher pH of 6.0 instead of 5.0, CES won't strip existing protection and is safe on paint, glass and plastic. It can therefore be used to maintain existing protection, or add hydrophobic properties to bare surfaces. In both cases, it will also create some nice gloss and slickness.
Note - KCx suggest CES will leave "behind a temporary SiO2 based protective layer". Take note of the word "temporary", like all of these wash-n-wax type soaps, the longevity of that boost to gloss, slickness and protection is limited. As long as you know this up front, you won't end up buying these products expecting to ceramic-coat your vehicle using a bottle of soap. Koch Chemie also suggest it provides UV protection, I'd question that to be honest.
How To Use -
This is basically the same to use as Nano Magic, although its suggested you don't use CES in a foam cannon. Not sure why, but I'm told it foams ok.
1. Shake the bottle well before dispensing.
2. Add 100ml to 10-litres of water. (See notes below)
3. Start by washing sections at a time, rinsing between sections.
4. Follow with a final rinse, then dry the vehicle.
Usage Notes -
- KCx seem insistent on not using CES in the sun or on hot surfaces, or letting it dry, more so than Nano Magic.
- KCx suggest a 200:1 dilution ratio, 50ml to 10-litres of water. Again, I double that to 100ml.
- Again, if the vehicle is very dirty, then you would use a pre-wash foam such as Bilt Hamber Touch-less or Koch Chemie Active Foam first.
- The scent is described as "berry-almond".
- I've found CES to offer a decent before and after difference when compared to others of this type. Gloss and slickness gains are quite noticeable.
Final Thoughts -
I only occasionally use this style of soap, and even then, I have to pick my mark. As a novelty though, it's fun to see and feel the difference they've made afterwards. Of the two, I'd probably favor the newer CES as it seems to offer more pronounced results.
Koch Chemie Nano Magic Shampoo
This product is sold in both the white bottle professional range, as well as the blue bottle consumer line. The pro version has only been sold in 5- and 10-litre drums, so for most, you will be looking at the 750ml blue bottle. (1-litre bottles of the white bottle are available overseas)
Like all of these soaps, Nano Magic is a combined shampoo and protectant, killing two birds with one stone. I can't determine what KCx are using in this soap to provide that protection, only that it leaves "a long-lasting, hydrophobic nanolayer". The best way I can describe it would be to think of Nano Magic as the polymer-based S0.02 spray sealant, while Ceramic Effect Shampoo would be like an Si02 spray sealant such as Carpro Reload.
Spec wise, Nano Magic has a pH of 5.0 and said to "preserve" existing waxes, sealants and coatings". Occasional use will in theory extend the life of those protectants, or it can be used on vehicles without protection to improve hydrophobics and gloss. I always say with these soaps to not expect miracles, if your paint is heavily neglected, the use of Nano Magic is not going to transform the car into a concours winner. But, with occasional use they can certainly boost gloss, slickness and protection.
How To Use -
Nano Magic can be used in a foam cannon or bucket, just don't expect shaving cream-like foam. I've always foamed it on, then contact washed while still on the paint.
1. Shake the bottle well before dispensing.
2. For foam cannons, add 900ml of water and 100ml of Nano Magic to the cannister. For bucket washing, add 100ml to 10-litres of water. (See notes below)
3. Foam the entire vehicle and/or commence the contact wash. If washing in the sun or on a hot day, I'd probably break the vehicle into sections.
4. Rinse thoroughly then dry.
Usage Notes -
- From experience, I've found Koch Chemie's dilution ratios very lean when it comes to soaps. For example, they recommend a 200:1 bucket or foam cannon dilution ratio, which works out at 50ml to a 10-litre bucket or 5ml to 995ml of water in a foam cannon, which is just not going to do anything. I would double that to 100ml in both cases.
- Like most products of this type, you will find Nano Magic to be a low foaming, low suds soap. The foam quality is a runny film.
- While still slick, you will notice a slight "stickiness" underneath the wash media.
- If your vehicle is ultra dirty, this probably isn't going to be your best choice. I'd at least pre-soak with something like Bilt Hamber Touch-less or Koch Chemie Active Foam first.
- While its a relatively mild shampoo, the "protection" in it means you would avoid allowing it to dry on the surface.
- Suitable for matte surfaces/paint
- KCx suggest Nano Magic will last approximately two weeks.
Koch Chemie Ceramic Effect Shampoo
This is one of Koch Chemie's latest products and has only just made its debut in Australia. The concept of CES is the same as Nano Magic, however it uses a more modern Si02 formula. With a slightly higher pH of 6.0 instead of 5.0, CES won't strip existing protection and is safe on paint, glass and plastic. It can therefore be used to maintain existing protection, or add hydrophobic properties to bare surfaces. In both cases, it will also create some nice gloss and slickness.
Note - KCx suggest CES will leave "behind a temporary SiO2 based protective layer". Take note of the word "temporary", like all of these wash-n-wax type soaps, the longevity of that boost to gloss, slickness and protection is limited. As long as you know this up front, you won't end up buying these products expecting to ceramic-coat your vehicle using a bottle of soap. Koch Chemie also suggest it provides UV protection, I'd question that to be honest.
How To Use -
This is basically the same to use as Nano Magic, although its suggested you don't use CES in a foam cannon. Not sure why, but I'm told it foams ok.
1. Shake the bottle well before dispensing.
2. Add 100ml to 10-litres of water. (See notes below)
3. Start by washing sections at a time, rinsing between sections.
4. Follow with a final rinse, then dry the vehicle.
Usage Notes -
- KCx seem insistent on not using CES in the sun or on hot surfaces, or letting it dry, more so than Nano Magic.
- KCx suggest a 200:1 dilution ratio, 50ml to 10-litres of water. Again, I double that to 100ml.
- Again, if the vehicle is very dirty, then you would use a pre-wash foam such as Bilt Hamber Touch-less or Koch Chemie Active Foam first.
- The scent is described as "berry-almond".
- I've found CES to offer a decent before and after difference when compared to others of this type. Gloss and slickness gains are quite noticeable.
Final Thoughts -
I only occasionally use this style of soap, and even then, I have to pick my mark. As a novelty though, it's fun to see and feel the difference they've made afterwards. Of the two, I'd probably favor the newer CES as it seems to offer more pronounced results.
