Layering CanCoat

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Lance Mark

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I thought I'd caught a mention that CanCoat can be layered. I've applied to some test panels on an old truck and I intend on using it for my LSP for Harley. I wanted to confirm.

I have two questions.

Can I apply multiple coats?

Once I'm done, how would you clean and maintain the bike until the next sealant or coating? Specifically, if you've used CanCoat, which washes, products, detailers, etc...do you use to keep it looking spiffy.
 
Don’t quote me but I believe Gyeon says it doesn’t need to be layered but you can if you want. I have been through many bottles of it and have always had great longevity only one coat. I also suggest using it over something like CarPro Essence. I’ve had a lot of customer as well as my DD last well over a year with this combo.
Maintenance for your bike really comes down to how you typically clean it. Do you do a waterless or do you use a bucket?
 
I'm open to either or a combination of both.

The only part of my bike that I think would be tough to clean without water would be my engine.

I was thinking I'd do waterless as regular and do a water bath every once in a while.
 
I really don't think there is any need to layer it. I saw 12 months with a single layer.

I topped CanCoat with Gyeon Cure and it was a great combination. Probably one of the best looking LSP combo's I've ever tried. Cure's only downside is it can be a little tricky to work with, but I found diluting it 1:1 with water and spraying it on the application towel and not the surface of the vehicle helped avoid streaking. A little Cure goes a very long way, even when diluted.
 
And when he says diluting with water, he means distilled water without any minerals from tap water. Using tap water may reduce the life of the new mixture.
 
I’d just use Ech20 to maintain it. Can use as a QD, WW & rinseless. Cleans well, lots of lubricity, nice gloss. Infinitely dilutable to your needs.
If your not riding in the rain, your cases shouldn't get too dirty. Compressed air will help clean out all the nooks and crannies for the most part.
 
fly07sti said:
If your not riding in the rain, your cases shouldn't get too dirty.
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It gets wet all the time. I don't do it on purpose, but I don't avoid it. When you're touring cross country, sometimes you just get wet. It's pretty much my daily driver as well, so I'll get caught on the way home from work, or it will get rained on in my work parking lot.
 
CaffeineBuzz said:
I have two questions.

Can I apply multiple coats?
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Yes it can be. It doesn’t require it but you are more than welcomed to apply a second layer 1 hour later.

Now I recall that Jeff from Gyeon told me it was 4 hours to top it with Cure. I’m going off the top of my head from and old message to Jeff.

CaffeineBuzz said:
Once I'm done, how would you clean and maintain the bike until the next sealant or coating? Specifically, if you've used CanCoat, which washes, products, detailers, etc...do you use to keep it looking spiffy.
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Cure works great with it. I never had to dilute it as it worked fine for me at full strength. That combo will get you a year of not a little longer. Pair this up every couple months with the new Gyeon ceramic Detailer and you will be just fine.

Before I recommend any wash products, how do you typically wash this?
 
Wash from this point forward will be two bucket method
 
I found the two bucket method to be swirl instilling,not safe enough, so that's why I wash with an extreme method now.
 
This was years ago: I wound up swirling my paint using the two bucket method. There wasn't enough lube nor clean water. Ever since then I use a foam gun and multiple mitts. I no longer experience swirls in my paint this way. I admit the method is extreme and time consuming but I'd rather spend time washing than polishing.

Audi R8 BLACKBIRD: Basic Car Wash Techniques - /DRIVE CLEAN - YouTube
 
CaffeineBuzz said:
Wash from this point forward will be two bucket method
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You will be fine with a two bucket. I have yet to have swirls using this method. Although I do incorporate a foam gun during the wash process.

Any soap will work just fine. Preferably one that contains no waxes or gloss enhancers.

As far as a waterless/rinseless wash again you have options and the technology has advanced to avoid swirls. Like everything it should be done in the right conditions, meaning not heavily dirty.

With that said you have Carpro EcH20 which can be used as a waterless, rinseless, quick detailer. Pretty versatile as it will leave gloss due to the silica in the formula.

McKee’s N914 is great. It will clean and leave nothing behind on the surface. It will out clean EcH20.

McKee’s SiO2 Rinseless wash is very good. Similar to EcH20 but with the added benefit of leaving pretty stout protection. Can be used as a waterless and quick detailer as well. You would not need any additional topper if you choose this option.
 
The Guz said:
You will be fine with a two bucket. I have yet to have swirls using this method.
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You’re a lot more of a risk taker than me. I don’t chance it any more especially with dark colored paint. I’d much rather spend hours washing than polishing.

I would say the slicker the soap the better. Best to experiment and find one that suits you.
 
The Guz said:
You will be fine with a two bucket. I have yet to have swirls using this method. Although I do incorporate a foam gun during the wash process.
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I tend to agree. On my black cars I've seen little/no marring from a two bucket wash as long as I'm careful. My biggest threat is snow removal...now that will get me some marring no matter how careful I try to be.
 
I applied 3 layers of Can Coat Evo on Friday. 55F outdoors. Was breezy so it was a bit tricky but I pulled it off with no issues. I waited an hour in between each. I know a single layer is sufficient, but I wanted to try 3 out of curiosity being I had the time and product on hand. I saw that Polished Bliss UK recommended 2-3 layers from their experience. Figured I'd give it a shot for the heck of it.
 
Interesting info on the one hour recoat. I have been waiting until the next day for the first coat to cure. From here on one hour it is! Thanks
 
Bill D said:
Kudos to them and their washing technique!
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Saw this video before I heard about your technique. When I did hear I kinda envision this is similar to your technique but if I remember correctly you fill mitt with soap from gun?


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