Leather Scuff Repair

swanicyouth

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So, I've been researching quite a while how to fix a leather scuff. For the longest time I couldn't figure out why one small area of my Nappa Black BMW leather seat was scuffing and the rest was fine

Scuff

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[car: 2008 BMW M Roadster with Black Nappa Leather 35k]

Finally, I realized it was from the seatbelt getting stuck behind my back (I don't always wear it) and the metal buckle digging into the leather, between my back and the seat.

There seems to be a lot of info on the Internet about completely refinishing or recoloring a seat. Not so much about just touching up a scuff. I've checked out tons of companies, products, and techniques. Finally I decided on ordering Furniture Clinic's Scuff Repair Kit all the way from the UK (not available in USA).

The kit:

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The kit comes with an alcohol prep solution, colorant, tints color lightener, matte and gloss solution ad sealer. I also ordered sand paper 320 grit, and their black leather filler.

I picked this kit over others because it comes with tint, color lightener, and matte and gloss adding solution. I figured with this I could get the best match. Other kits just offer "black" which I suspect would be too dark, as the leather looks more anthracite to me.

Anyone have any experience fixing scuffs in leather like this? Any advice?
 
Reason # 372 why you should wear your seatbelt...

Okay, enough of me being your father. I don't have a lot of experience in leather repair, but I do have some thoughts/questions come to mind. Assuming this is coated leather, will the leather dye penetrate the coating, or are you essentially dyeing the coating?

My other thought is, if the scuffing has left the leather ruff in that area, I can't imagine you'll be able to get it smooth again, so I wouldn't have high expectations of getting it back to "new" again.

Regardless of my thoughts above, I'll be interested to see how it comes out once you're finished. Good luck with it, and hopefully someone like Judy (which I believe is located in the UK) chimes in with some more useful information.
 
Supposedly, the black filler and the sanding will take care of the uneven texture as per the Furniture Clinic website and videos. I guess the theory is, the colorant will stick best to the part coating is worn off (worn part). Supposedly, this stuff is highly recommended, that's why I ordered it all the way from the UK.

Here is their video on scuff repair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8lPMxEe4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
Hi swanicyouth...

-Here's hoping that you have total success in your leather scuff repair.

-I also hope, if possible, you are able to take some pictures (even a video of sorts)
to showcase your step-by-steps. That would be priceless info, IMO.

Please, if you don't mind, keep us apprised. Thanks.

:)

Bob

PS: Looks like a very nice 'kit'!
PSS: Perhaps Judyb and/or Roger Koh will offer some guidance, if needed?
 
Y2KSVT, I would assume with the area scuffed that the coating may have worn away so that shouldn't be an issue IMO.

Have seen fantastic results with Swissvax leather healer products, which seem very similar to the kit mentioned above.
 
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Finally, I realized it was from the seatbelt getting stuck behind my back (I don't always wear it) and the metal buckle digging into the leather, between my back and the seat.
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Are you sure about this? It seems to me that it is a normal scuff from the abrasion of getting into and out of your car.

Thank you very much for your post and all the great info! :dblthumb2:

I leave a link to a thread that has "something" of your problem but doesn't describe things as nicely as on the Furniture Clinic website (and it is in Portuguese...I think the pictures and videos are enough though).

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Not really sure you have to go to the UK for repair items. I've been researching this type of repair as my daily driver is in need of leather attention. One of the simpler systems that caught my attention was offered by Magic Mender, leatherrepairkits.com because their system doesn't use air brush. I happen to have all the custom air brush equipmrnt but not haveing to use them makes the repair simpler.

Your scuff doesn't look that bad, sand, fill. color and maybe a top coat should do it. Let us know how it turns out.
 
So, I finally got around to finishing the repair I mentioned in my above post. Just a recap, basically there was normal "scuff wear" on the left drivers side bolster black nappa leather seat on my 2008 BMW M Roadster.

The repair kit, filler, and sand paper finally arrived from Furniture Clinic after waiting a month. The time wasn't in shipping, basically they said I didn't "pick a color" when ordering. Although I know I did, and I sent them three emails they never responded to. Basically it took a Pay Pal dispute to actually get them to ship myself. Because of this, I can't recommend ordering anything from them. Although all products arrived safely and were high quality.

Anyway, when the stuff came, the kit included colorant, gloss and matte top coats, white/red/blue tints, a mixing cup and stirrer, an application sponge, and alcohol cleaner. I also ordered the sand paper they recommend and black leather filler. Right away a I could see there was plenty of colorant (50 cc); but very little top coat (15 cc each). 15 cc does not leave a lot of room for do-overs. Getting it right the first time was key.

The products:

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I also picked up 2 Preval Sprayers. To anyone not familiar with these, these are like refillable spray paint cans powered by a little aerosol tank. I planned on using these with the colorant, however, once I looked at the product it looked too thick to spray and I didn't know what to thin it with correctly and didn't want to waste any product - so, they got returned unused.

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I also got a Martha Stewart Visual Paint and Palette Knife Set. This was to apply the filler to fill the indents in the leather with the leather filler product and smooth it over

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The idea of the kit is to basically clean the area with alcohol, sand and/or fill cracks if needed, color with colorant using supplied sponge, then correct sheen with gloss or matte top layer. It sounds pretty easy. The problem is, there is an infinite amount of tinting and sheening (gloss / matte) that can be done and I finite amount of product and tries.

Never trying this before I wasn't sure what to expect. I quickly learned that applying any product in straight lines (wiping it on) lead to a "striped" appearance. This could be fixed by dabbing the sponge instead. This is what the stuff looked like

Colorant:

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Filler

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Gloss and Matte Solutions Mixed to make "satin" top coat

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Here you can see the colorant, mixing cup, and mixing stick:

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First I cleaned the leather with Leather Masters Soft Cleaner, after that I used the alcohol solution supplied with the kit on the repair area only. This was nothing exciting, as I recently cleaned and sealed the seats with G Techniq L1.

So after cleaning, you have the option of sanding and applying the crack filler. I bought a spare piece of leather at the craft store and practiced this a little bit. On the car,Ii first sanded the color to try and smooth the area a bit with 1200 grit sandpaper. I was amazed at how EASY the color came off the BMW leather, compared to the leather I bought at the craft store. In fact, I was a little sickened. If anyone has ever priced BMW factory leather seat coverings, you know they cost thousands of dollars new. I'm wondering how come the $6 piece of leather from the craft store had a much tougher and abrasive resistant finish. The difference was significant. And the finish on the practice leather was almost identical to the BMW leather.

After sanding I tried smoothing the leather indentations that were left with the crack filler. This worked well enough, however, the quantity of product you use to do this is tiny. I'm talking about as much filler as is the size of a head of a fly to fill an indent. I'm really glad I got those little knives to do this, as you really need a precision tool to do this right. After that, you can wait until it dries or dry It with a heat gun, I choose the latter.

This is the area after its been lightly sanded and the crack filler was applied and knocked down flat and dried (yes hard to see - filler is black):

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After I was confident the indentations were filled, but not overfilled, it was time for the color. Basically, you just dip the sponge in it and pat it on. Here you want to do several light coats, drying with heat in between. Again, it takes very little product each time, probably less than 1/10 of an ml for an area the size of your fist.

When the coloring was done, I was left with a spot on the seat that looked like black patent leather. It was very shiny and didn't match at all. This is where the matte/gloss solutions come in. There is no science how to mix them. Basically the middle between matte and gloss is called "satin", and this is what most seats resemble on German cars. However, this isn't as easy as it sounds. It's very hard to mix the correct proportions to get it just right. Also, you have to keep in mind that the color you laid down prior is not an exact match. It's easy to look at your color and see its slightly too dark, and confuse that with being slightly too shiny, and vice-versa with light and matte. You can apply light coats of these solutions as well, drying in between with heat.

So when I was all done, what was I left with???

Before:

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After:

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It's hard to tell in the pictures, but in person it looks OK. Up close, you can kind of tell something was done there, but from 5 feet away it is very hard to tell. As simple as this sounds, it still took me about 4 hours to do the whole procedure. The texture is a little off, the sheen is a little off, and the color is slightly dark.

However, looking close up at similar type spot repairs on the internet they all seem to look slightly off. I guess it's like painting part of a hood or door and expecting it to be undetectable.

If I was going to recommend a product to do a similar repair I'm not sure I'd recommend this kit. It's a little hard to mix color and sheen to match perfectly. Swissvax makes sort of an "all in one" product called Leather Healer. For $125 they will mix you an exact color (and I'm assuming matte/gloss sheen) based on the year, make, and model of your car. For $90 they have generic colors. But, if you buy all the Swissvax products they recommend to do the job your looking at close to $400.00. This may have been an easier, but not cheaper, route to go.

I was looking for perfection, but I didn't get it. I figured I would give it a try and use it as a learning experience. If the leather was in worse shape, the improvement of the repair would have been more drastic.

I'm trying to find a leather repair guy now who will say he can fix it to look almost perfect. I brought it to one guy and he told me to leave it, and that he wasn't sure he could get it better looking than I did.
 
Thanks for your update. I'd say after it ages a little it will look great. I think getting the sheen right is the toughest part. This is why they suggest coloring a larger section than just what needs repairing. It's similar to blending paint on a panel repair sort of tricks the eye

The reason for the color sanding off so easy is because the leather is so thin. Glove leather is soft hence the nice comfortable seat but there is a price to pay. I think you did a great job just look at the before and after pictures.

IMO this area of the seat always wears from getting in anad out of the car. Give it a month or two before you do anything else to it. I bet it blends in perfectly.
 
Thanks for your update. I'd say after it ages a little it will look great. I think getting the sheen right is the toughest part. This is why they suggest coloring a larger section than just what needs repairing. It's similar to blending paint on a panel repair sort of tricks the eye

The reason for the color sanding off so easy is because the leather is so thin. Glove leather is soft hence the nice comfortable seat but there is a price to pay. I think you did a great job just look at the before and after pictures.

IMO this area of the seat always wears from getting in anad out of the car. Give it a month or two before you do anything else to it. I bet it blends in perfectly.

Thanks for the encouragement. I probably could have paid someone off the bat to do a perfect job, but I really like learning to do things myself, now I know how to repair color on leather.

I'm wondering about the Magic Mender stuff. My biggest concern would be getting the color and sheen correct. How is working with their products? Do you know anyone who has ever tried the Swissvax Leather Healer? That looks super easy.
 
You're welcome but it was meant to be more thaan encouragement I truely think you did a very good repair. Just look at the before and after photos. I totally agree if I can do the repair / work I prefer to do it also. Not only is it educational but rewarding and I am in charge of quality control.

I don't know about the Swissvax Leather Healer products. I did check out their website and my initial reaction was their products are very expensive.

To answer your other question no I have not used Magic Mender yet as my leather repair work is on the back burner. I'll get to it and I hope I can document the process as well as you did. I recommended them because from my research it seemed like one of the easier refinishing kits out there.

Vinyl Pro vinylpro.com has another system that looks very good. I guess if I can get away without using a spray gun I'd prefer it. I use to do a fair amount of custom painting and hate doing the clean up, kinda how I feel about cleaning windshields on cars my least favorite task.

Leather World, leatherworldtech.com also has some interesting solutions.

I really need to make the time to do this soon it's just been such a low priority. I have not used these products above but it just seems to me $100 should more than cover the cost of materials to repair leather. The scuff you had seems minor compaired to the abrasaions, tears and punctures in my car. Should make for a great instructional session however.
 
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