Both of those gentlemen seem very genuine. The first time I saw anything with Jason, it was when he, Mike Pennington, and Mike Phillips introduced the then new Meguiar's Microfiber Correction System. It was then I became a fan of Mr. Rose. I'm happy for him, and his new endavor. I'm a big fan of Meguiar's, as well as Rupes. I'm interested to see what comes of this association.