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Hey guys. This is my first post, I've been lingering around this site picking up some really great info over the past 6 months. Awesome forum!

I have an 07 VW GTI in black magic pearl. I bought it 6 months ago and did my first serious detail/paint correction just after I got it. I clayed it, used Meguiars M105, M205 and Meguiars Liquid Carnauba wax. It turned out great! Except...

After I used M105 I noticed ALL the rock chips were white! The compound must have dried in the chips and I couldn't get it out. I immediately tried some quick detailer and a nylon brush, didn't work. Then I tried a heavy IPA dilution and a brush, didn't work. I just left it alone and finished polishing and waxing. I figured I'd just live with it and maybe a number of car washes will get it out.

It's been about 4-5 months since I did all this and the compound is still imbedded in these rock chips. There are thousands of chips in my front end! It's driving me nuts.

So the other day I tried mineral spirits (someone recommended it on here) and a nylon brush, didn't work. Then I tried a diluted mixture of Zep Citrus Degreaser with a brush and that didn't get it out either!

I don't know what else to do. I don't really want to get the front end resprayed. I'm thinking of just spending a few days and touching them all up with some touch up paint.

I've posted some photos below from my phone.

What do you guys think I should do?


This is after paint correction. Looks pretty good.

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Here are the rock chips. It's like this all over the front end.

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kishmack said:
don't know what else to do. I don't really want to get the front end resprayed. I'm thinking of just spending a few days and touching them all up with some touch up paint.
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IMHO:
Putting touch-up paint on top of paint chips that are already full of a compound is an exercise in futility. The chips have to be completely cleaned out first.

•So...In this case:
"Like removes Like" probably is not a viable option.

•Sounds like you need to get some "panel wipes" similar to
the paint-prep chemicals that paint and body shops use:
-DuPont PrepSol
-3M Prep Solvent
-Wurth Clean Solve
-Klean Strip Prep-All

Bob
 
Thanks for the reply! Yeah I know it has to be fully cleaned out for the paint to adhere properly. I just wasn't sure what product I would need, I would think that what I've tried so far should've done it.

Dumb question. Are those paint prep chemicals safe for paint? It won't fade/haze or strip the finish?

Thanks
 
...and a toothpick


Steam sometimes helps too
 
Are you sure that is actually polish?

Maybe the primer underneath is lighter??

Surprised that a heavy ipa used immediately after didn't take care of it.

I have a black vehicle that has tiny chips that look similar but it is just the chip....

Use a clothes iron to create steam.
 
toycar18 said:
Are you sure that is actually polish?

Maybe the primer underneath is lighter??

Use a clothes iron to create steam.
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When I first got the car the rock chips were all touched up black. Immediately after using M105 they all turned white. The DA polisher wouldn't have gotten into the chips and removed the touch up paint?

70% of the chips are very light, doesn't look like they'd be deep enough to get down to primer/metal.
 
kishmack said:
Is there a cheaper route for creating steam? I don't have a steamer.
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More first thought was "like removes like" but, like Bob said that may not be a feasible option. Did you try going over with M205 on a MF cloth? Or a paint cleansing lotion or cleaner wax? Black Wow's Pre-Wow may work as well, if you have any or someone near you does. Tar-X or Tarminator may help.
As far a cheap sources of steam, some irons have steam features, or a clothes steamer. Hot(nearly boiling) water may work similarly to steam, but will be less safe and harder to work with by hand, than an actual steamer. I have a Bissell lift-off steamer mop that I got from Ollie's bargain outlet(similar to Big Lots or the like), and I paid less than $100 for it. Might be a good investment either way since it has endless uses with detailing and residential uses.
 
Guys, the more I think and read about it I think it may just be the primer showing through.

I can't imagine that the compound wouldn't have come out by now.

Maybe polishing with M105 removed the touch up paint that was on there. I used an orange pad. Touch up paint is usually very thin to begin with.

I think I'm going to give Dr Color Chip a try. Do you guys think I should wait until spring when I do my next round of swirl removing before I touch it up?
 
That was a thought of mine as well. But my ADD got in the way of me mentioning it. Is it more gray than white?
 
ShaunD said:
That was a thought of mine as well. But my ADD got in the way of me mentioning it. Is it more gray than white?
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It looks white against the black. It may be light gray? I'm not sure. All I know is that I have a lot of rock chips lol. It's gonna take a while to fill all of them.
 
Hey Guys,

I have a question so my camry is starting to pick up some light surface scratches from people banging into it. Im looking for a a scratch remover that will do the job that is easy to use. I have both griots garage buffers but don't want to spend the money on scratch removers that don't work.
Also looking for products that correct imperfections in the glass

let me know

Ben
 
Another option is to use pressure washer if you're comfortable with that and don't mind getting the car wet I've done that before with success
 
greatwhitenorth said:
Another option is to use pressure washer if you're comfortable with that and don't mind getting the car wet I've done that before with success
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Great suggestion. This was one of the first things I tried. That's what makes me think it's the primer showing through. There's no way that compound can withstand a pressure washer.
 
Irishwoodchuck said:
Hey Guys,

I have a question so my camry is starting to pick up some light surface scratches from people banging into it. Im looking for a a scratch remover that will do the job that is easy to use. I have both griots garage buffers but don't want to spend the money on scratch removers that don't work.
Also looking for products that correct imperfections in the glass

let me know

Ben
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The best way to remove light scratches/swirl is with a DA polisher and cutting compound. I was amazed at how easy it was.

Larger scratches you may need to wet sand and buff from there, or get some touch up.
 
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