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Hi there. I currently own m105 compound, Meguires Ultimate compound and Meguires Ultimate polish. I have been thinking about getting the highly recommended m205 polish but just wondering what would make this unique compared to the two polishes I already have?

I mean what's the difference between ultimate compound and m205? Both have a cutting abrasive and are light cutting.

Again what exactly is the difference between ultimate polish and m205? What is the cut on the UP?

Would you recommend me getting the m205 while I still have UC & UP?

Lastly is m205 just as good as say Pinnacle polish or Menzerna polish?

Thanks.
 
UC and UP have fillers and oils. M105 and M205 do not and are body shop safe. You can pretty much use UC by itself as a one step and then you can seal/wax on top. It does have some cut, but what it doesn't cut, it fills. I've done a couple black Honda's with just UC and they finished out wax ready. For lighter swirls, you can go with UP.

M105 pretty much has to be followed by M205 (or some other polish) because it only cuts and leaves a haze behind.

Based on the polishes I have tried, M205 is one of the best.
 
MJT said:
Hi there. I currently own m105 compound, Meguires Ultimate compound and Meguires Ultimate polish. I have been thinking about getting the highly recommended m205 polish but just wondering what would make this unique compared to the two polishes I already have?

I mean what's the difference between ultimate compound and m205? Both have a cutting abrasive and are light cutting.

Again what exactly is the difference between ultimate polish and m205? What is the cut on the UP?

Would you recommend me getting the m205 while I still have UC & UP?

Lastly is m205 just as good as say Pinnacle polish or Menzerna polish?

Thanks.
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Here is an Article that Mike Phillips did awhile back, should cover your questions pretty well.

The Aggressiveness Order of SMAT Products - This might surprise you!

M205 is a Finishing polish, but it's highly versatile in that I can be used from error correction to jeweling just by changing pads and speed.

Designed to follow up M105.

M105 can finish extremely well by itself, LSP ready usually with a polishing pad to get that wet look, then follow up with M205 with the same pad or a slightly less aggressive pad.

Something like LC orange M105 to M205 LC White etc.

M105 and M205 are body shop safe, no fillers.

M205 has more cut than the OTC UP.

M105 has more cut than the OTC UC.

M105 and M205 are my go to products.
 
I'll say this, I don't know of any other polish better than 205.
Very easy to work with, wipes off like a dream and as said, no fillers,so what you see is what you get.

IMO UP is just too oily, harder to wipe off, sort of smears.
Now the UC is great, I use a lot of it when I do a car without too many defects, it cuts well just not as good as the 105 but so much easier to work with and easy to fine.
 
wdmaccord said:
UC and UP have fillers and oils. M105 and M205 do not and are body shop safe.

You can pretty much use UC by itself as a one step and then you can seal/wax on top. It does have some cut, but what it doesn't cut, it fills.

I've done a couple black Honda's with just UC and they finished out wax ready. For lighter swirls, you can go with UP.

M105 pretty much has to be followed by M205 (or some other polish) because it only cuts and leaves a haze behind.

Based on the polishes I have tried, M205 is one of the best.
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^^^ ^^^

Where did you get all of this information?
Are you absolutely sure all of it is correct?

What are the "fillers", that you allege are being used?

"Oils"?
-Isn't M07 (that's stated to be chock-full of "T.S. oils"): A body shop safe (BSS) product?

-If, as you state, UC and UP do have "oils": Why couldn't they be BSS as well?


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Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
^^^ ^^^

Where did you get all of this information?
Are you absolutely sure all of it is correct?

What are the "fillers", that you allege are being used?

"Oils"?
Isn't M07 (that's stated to be chock-full of "T.S. oils")...
A body shop safe (BSS) product?


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Bob
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Megs #7 has more oils than any product I can even remember...

If you have ever used it you will understand what I mean.....

It was one of my go to products back in the single stage paint days, a must for neglected paint.... Always had like 3 or 4 bottles on hand. :xyxthumbs:
 
jankerson said:
Megs #7 has more oils than any product I can even remember...

If you have ever used it you will understand what I mean.....

It was one of my go to products back in the single stage paint days, a must for neglected paint.... Always had like 3 or 4 bottles on hand. :xyxthumbs:
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Because of my experience with M07 is why I used it as an "oils" example.

I still use it on vehicles.
Probably always will.

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Because of my experience with M07 is why I used it as an "oils" example.

I still use it on vehicles.
Probably always will.

:)

Bob
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That's what I thought. :xyxthumbs:

Not always needed, but when it is the results are awesome. :dblthumb2:
 
wdmaccord said:
UC and UP have fillers and oils. M105 and M205 do not and are body shop safe. You can pretty much use UC by itself as a one step and then you can seal/wax on top. It does have some cut, but what it doesn't cut, it fills. I've done a couple black Honda's with just UC and they finished out wax ready. For lighter swirls, you can go with UP.

M105 pretty much has to be followed by M205 (or some other polish) because it only cuts and leaves a haze behind.

Based on the polishes I have tried, M205 is one of the best.
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Wow! You have no idea about these products. Don't spread incorrect information.

Sent while I was Detailing or something related to detailing ;) or...
 
So having m105, m205, UC, UP would I need anything else for either compounding or polishing various paint conditions using the 'least aggressive polish to get the job done'. There are so many other polishes - Meguires swirl remover, and different Meguires mirror glaze series etc. But with what I potentially will have will that be sufficient? Do I need a swirl remover when m105 or m205 can do that job?? Bit confused why so many different polishes.
 
No you don't need that swirl remover. M105/M205 or UC/UP is all you need.
 
Thanks that clears a lot up. Very helpful guys!
 
I use the UC/UP combo.

I used both on a really badly scratched/swirled/oxidized Subaru and the results were amazing. The UC cleared everything up nicely, but the magic happened when I followed up with the UP. Made it REALLY glossy and produced a great shine.

On soft Japanese paint like my Subaru or Toyota, I have been able to knock out the swirls and get a great shine with just the UP. I never noticed any ill effects from oils. I was able to go from UP straight to Collinite 845 with great results and no application issues.
 
M205 can even be used for light correcting with an agressive pad. Its a very easy polish to work with and finishes flawlessly.
 
:iagree:

I've had success in the past just as you described :dblthumb2:



Jaretr1 said:
M205 can even be used for light correcting with an agressive pad. Its a very easy polish to work with and finishes flawlessly.
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HateSwirls said:
:iagree:

I've had success in the past just as you described :dblthumb2:
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I have used it on a Megs Yellow Pad aggressively on a DA (Speed 5) and it will remove lighter swirls while polishing to a high finish. Using 4 to 5 section passes.
 
Never tried it on a severe oxidized car.
Wonder it it would cut through it using an aggressive pad?




jankerson said:
I have used it on a Megs Yellow Pad aggressively on a DA (Speed 5) and it will remove lighter swirls while polishing to a high finish. Using 4 to 5 section passes.
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