McKee's 37 - 360 Water Beading Pics

Joe@NextLevelDetail

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What's going on guys, I recently did a one step on a black Dodge Ram, and got some nice water beading shots when it rained. 360 is very well liked, But no one rarely talks about the durable protection it leaves behind.














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Very tight and consistent water beading, One thing that stands out is the consistent straight lines of water beading it provides, Its almost like 360 demands a single file line!

No question that 360 lays down a durable layer of sealant protection.

Note: This truck had no sealant/wax protection before application, Did a complete decon strip wash.
 
Our winter wasn't as bad as it usually is, but the 360 on my car performed almost as well as griots paint sealant on my truck. I keep wanting to try other AIOs but 360 has done so well for me that I keep coming back to it. It performs well in the correction/polishing department with orange CCS pads but based on what I'm learning, it may do even better with thin pros or something similar.
 
pilotpip said:
Our winter wasn't as bad as it usually is, but the 360 on my car performed almost as well as griots paint sealant on my truck. I keep wanting to try other AIOs but 360 has done so well for me that I keep coming back to it. It performs well in the correction/polishing department with orange CCS pads but based on what I'm learning, it may do even better with thin pros or something similar.
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What machine are you using? if your using a 8mm da then Yes, the thinpros would be a better option.

my recommendation is to not use a CCS pad or any closed cell pad for that matter when using a "AIO" polish like 360, Closed cell pads are just that closed cell, and the wax/sealant protection can really cause gumming of the pad, and that can make you lose cut, finishing ability, and also not leave a consistent film of product while buffing, When using a closed cell pad with a AIO you will notice how splotchy and how inconsistent the film of product is on the panel, that is due to the closed cell technology.
 
Note: This truck had no sealant/wax protection before application, Did a complete decon strip wash.[/QUOTE]

Very Nice Joe! What do you mean by a complete a decon strip wash?
 
lane5515 said:
Note: This truck had no sealant/wax protection before application, Did a complete decon strip wash.
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Very Nice Joe! What do you mean by a complete a decon strip wash?[/QUOTE]

I used a Iron Remover decon spray, I clayed to remove embedded surface contaminants, and added 1-2oz of McKee's 37 APC to my wash bucket with Xtreme Foam Formula. (Truck was covered with bugs, sand, mud, dirt) had no signs of any wax or sealant protection before hand.
 
Joe@NextLevelDetail said:
What machine are you using? if your using a 8mm da then Yes, the thinpros would be a better option.

my recommendation is to not use a CCS pad or any closed cell pad for that matter when using a "AIO" polish like 360, Closed cell pads are just that closed cell, and the wax/sealant protection can really cause gumming of the pad, and that can make you lose cut, finishing ability, and also not leave a consistent film of product while buffing, When using a closed cell pad with a AIO you will notice how splotchy and how inconsistent the film of product is on the panel, that is due to the closed cell technology.
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I'm using a PC. Interestingly I've not experienced an inconsistent or splotchy appearance.
 
pilotpip said:
I'm using a PC. Interestingly I've not experienced an inconsistent or splotchy appearance.
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If your using a PC, for sure go with a thinner profile pad, the PC lacks in power, and a thick pad like the CCS means the backing plate has more weight and mass to spin, a thinner pad = less weight and mass to transfer the mechanical energy to the paint.
 
Joe@NextLevelDetail said:
If your using a PC, for sure go with a thinner profile pad, the PC lacks in power, and a thick pad like the CCS means the backing plate has more weight and mass to spin, a thinner pad = less weight and mass to transfer the mechanical energy to the paint.
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If only I had known when I spent months laboring over which pads to go with. And if only AG had a package with thin pros rather than CCS (they may now, didn't when I bought)
 
I can second what Joe is saying about 360. I did a neighbor's car that is washed maybe twice a year - used 360 and almost 8 months later (and maybe one wash?) 360 is still beading strong. When I first used 360 I made the same mistake of using white CCS pads and they became pink bubble gum-like in consistency, near impossible to get the pads clean. I have since moved to LC Thin Pro orange and whites with 360, and while I still cannot get the pads completely clean, they do come cleaner than the CCS pads did. I think what I like best about 360 is how much brighter it makes the paint - the difference is noticeable particularly on cars that may get love once or twice a year.

ScottH
 
I'm going to pose a question to everyone:

Buy some thin pros in white and orange to use with AIO, and keep the CCS pads for compound and traditional polish? I have noticed how much more difficult 360 is to clean out of the pads but I'm new to this and didn't know any better.
 
Joe@NextLevelDetail said:
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That's a pretty cool effect.

Reminds me of:

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Great results from the 360, Joe. And love that regular cab Ram. (I could be biased though). ;)

Question: I too am pretty new at machine polishing. Used HD Speed w/ the Porter Cable and 5.5 LC flat pads. Worked like a charm, and the pads were great. No gumming or streaking noticed at all. (I did however use Mike P's "clean on the fly" method, and plenty of pads). Are the LC pads CCS?
 
pilotpip said:
I'm going to pose a question to everyone:

Buy some thin pros in white and orange to use with AIO, and keep the CCS pads for compound and traditional polish? I have noticed how much more difficult 360 is to clean out of the pads but I'm new to this and didn't know any better.
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Yes this is exactly what I did - in this attached pic you can see the white CCS pad that is all "pinked-up" and the orange Thin Pro is nearly new looking (but still has some product stuck in it) - both after using 360. What you can't see but can feel, is that both pads have a little sticky feel to them after using 360 (and thoroughly cleaning the pads with XMT pad cleaner). So I've moved exclusively to LC Thin Pro's for 360 - seems to be a better match (as Joe mentioned before).

ScottH
 
ScottH said:
Yes this is exactly what I did - in this attached pic you can see the white CCS pad that is all "pinked-up" and the orange Thin Pro is nearly new looking (but still has some product stuck in it) - both after using 360. What you can't see but can feel, is that both pads have a little sticky feel to them after using 360 (and thoroughly cleaning the pads with XMT pad cleaner). So I've moved exclusively to LC Thin Pro's for 360 - seems to be a better match (as Joe mentioned before).

ScottH
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Did you go with all orange or did you get some white too? With a PC I find myself going for the orange pads far more often than the white ones. In fact the car I posted this weekend is the first I've extensively used the white pads on and that's because I did a 2 step and didn't need the extra cut.
 
Looks good joe. Going to be getting this AIO next.


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Yes yes. My black Tahoe which was last treated by xmt 360 (my last bottle, sniff sniff) save for few post wash spay wax applications STILL beads and reflects over 6 months later. Looking forward to a complete detail with new McKees line within a month or so and will post.


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backtees said:
Yes yes. My black Tahoe which was last treated by xmt 360 (my last bottle, sniff sniff) save for few post wash spay wax applications STILL beads and reflects over 6 months later. Looking forward to a complete detail with new McKees line within a month or so and will post.


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Looking forward to the post!
 
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