Meg's D151 vs Meg's #105 vs XMT #4

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What's the most effective product out of the 3 for paint correction and removing scratches along with the use of a GG 6" DA?
 
I would say M105 over D151 no doubt, but I have not used XMT #4.
 
All three will work but it depends on how severe the surface defects are.

In terms of aggressiveness

  1. Meguiar's M105
  2. Pinnacle's XMT #4
  3. Meguiar's D151
I would consider both Meguiar's M104 and Pinnacle's XMT #4 heavy compounds. Meguiar's D151 I would consider at the upper end of a medium polish range..

Always start with a less abrasive polish, and if necessary resort to something more aggressive.
 
BobbyG said:
All three will work but it depends on how severe the surface defects are.

In terms of aggressiveness

  1. Meguiar's M105
  2. Pinnacle's XMT #4
  3. Meguiar's D151
I would consider both Meguiar's M104 and Pinnacle's XMT #4 heavy compounds. Meguiar's D151 I would consider at the upper end of a medium polish range..

Always start with a less abrasive polish, and if necessary resort to something more aggressive.
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Can you recommend 3 polishing products (heavy, medium, light) that is not too expensive but have excellent results? So far, Im only familiar with the heavy ones, as mentioned above.
 
rjgervacio said:
Can you recommend 3 polishing products (heavy, medium, light) that is not too expensive but have excellent results? So far, Im only familiar with the heavy ones, as mentioned above.
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I'd be glad too!

Heavy Duty Compounds

Menzerna Power Gloss
Meguiar's M105

Medium Polish

Menzerna PO203S
Meguiar's M205

Light Polish

Menzerna PO106FA
Menzerna PO85RD

A very nice bundle of products that work very well covering all your reqirements.

Menzerna Power Gloss, Power Finish & Super Finish Bundle, Menzerna Polishes Combo, Nano Polish, Power Finish Polish, Power Gloss Compound

Pinnacle's XMT line is about the most economical line and is widely available. Starting with their #4 the most aggressive then line progressively becomes finer as the numbers decrease.

Pinnacle XMT #4
Pinnacle XMT #3
Pinnacle XMT #2
Pinnacle XMT #1

XMT Series by Pinnacle; Xtreme Machine Technology polishes & glazes for dual action orbital & rotary polishers.
 
BobbyG said:
I'd be glad too!

Heavy Duty Compounds

Menzerna Power Gloss
Meguiar's M105

Medium Polish

Menzerna PO203S
Meguiar's M205

Light Polish

Menzerna PO106FA
Menzerna PO85RD

A very nice bundle of products that work very well covering all your reqirements.

Menzerna Power Gloss, Power Finish & Super Finish Bundle, Menzerna Polishes Combo, Nano Polish, Power Finish Polish, Power Gloss Compound

Pinnacle's XMT line is about the most economical line and is widely available. Starting with their #4 the most aggressive then line progressively becomes finer as the numbers decrease.

Pinnacle XMT #4
Pinnacle XMT #3
Pinnacle XMT #2
Pinnacle XMT #1

XMT Series by Pinnacle; Xtreme Machine Technology polishes & glazes for dual action orbital & rotary polishers.
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Thanks!
 
Hey Bobby,

Where would you rank Wolfgang TSR and FG. I realize TSR is medium and FG light, and FG is similar to 106FA, so how do you rank against each in those lists? And what would be your choice in case I want something a BIT more aggressive than TSR? Or would you just switch to like a yellow pad and TSR?
 
HeavyMetal said:
Hey Bobby,

Where would you rank Wolfgang TSR and FG. I realize TSR is medium and FG light, and FG is similar to 106FA, so how do you rank against each in those lists? And what would be your choice in case I want something a BIT more aggressive than TSR? Or would you just switch to like a yellow pad and TSR?
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Hey Craig,

The aggressiveness of a polish or compound is largely determined by the sanding grit or scratch removal but varying the pads foam density adds an additional component.

Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover will remove sanding grits up to 2000. I would use this initially with an Orange pad initially then repeat the process but switch to a White pad for a less aggressive polish.

Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer is a great way to bring the finish up to the next level before applying a sealant such as Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant or a wax. Use this with a white or gray pad here.

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze will remove sanding grits up to 2500 so it is a finer polish, something more or less comparable to Menzerna PO106FA

For something more aggressive than Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover I'd take a look at Menzerna Super Intensive Polish PO83 - Orange and White pads here.
 
Thanks Bobby. SIP was a guess on my part but I wanted to be sure. Haven't needed it yet, but just in case. I did try TSR with both white and orange pads so I have a pretty good feel for that. TSR seemed to be VERY mild with a white pad - not much more than FG with a white. FG with a grey pad has almost no cut from what I could tell.

Now that I have the feel, I'll be testing on the wife's black Lexus with TSR/orange followed by FG/white, then PPE/grey and then PL/red. The swirls on the Lexus are a little lighter than on my RAV, and I'll test, but I don't think TSR/white will do the trick. Despite what some say, I think Toyota paint is pretty hard compared to Saturn and Hyundai.
 
If using a DA polisher...I think you should consider the new Megs 5.5" Microfiber DA Correction system in terms of removing heavy swirls with the D300 Compound and associated MF cutting pad...and then consider a Menzerna product or Wolfgang Finishing Glaze to finish out with a 5.5" flat foam pad.

Now you want a killer look...one that will snap heads..?..Finish out with Wolfgang Finishing Glaze or Menzerna PO85RD, then apply Chemical Guy's EZ Creme Glaze, and top with Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant, and maintain that all with CarPro RELOAD spray every once in a while to keep the surface like glass.

You're car will get attention like you will not believe. The one thing about detailing is that its fun to experiment. I love Collinite 915 wax applied before winter, but during the non-winter months, I like to play around with different combos and the combo I mentioned is a absolute show stopper. Not sure why, but it works for me.
 
Informative thread.

I have another question when you finish off with M105 > M205 what do you guys recommend after the 205?

Also I know Mike has a whole thread up about the SMAT pack but is that Meguiars sole patent? Does other companies offer a SMAT like product? Because if I remember right the Wolfgang swirl remover is a DAT product.
 
Rei86 said:
Informative thread.

I have another question when you finish off with M105 > M205 what do you guys recommend after the 205?
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Meguiar's M205 is a great polish and finishes up nicely on its own. If I want to bump it up a step I'll use Menzerna PO85RD..
 
Another fantastic light polish that I can recommend is Optimum Poli-Seal. It has some minor swirl correcting abilities along with cleaners and even leaves a layer of protection. It also has a long work time, doesn't dust and doesn't smell terrible. For a car that only needs or an owner that only wants a quick fix, PoliSeal's great to have on hand.
 
BobbyG said:
Meguiar's M205 is a great polish and finishes up nicely on its own. If I want to bump it up a step I'll use Menzerna PO85RD..
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I'd second that. You will probably find a few thousand others on this site that like that combo.
 
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