Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze - Goodbye to an old friend - hello to a new friend!

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Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze - Goodbye to an old friend - hello to a new friend!


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I'm a little sad to have to say goodbye to an old friend... #7 Show Car Glaze. Due to forces out of their control Meguiar's has reformulated #7 Show Car Glaze.

The good news is - the changes to the formula were small and have no effect on the primary ingredients that make #7 the most unique product to withstand the test of time when it comes to restoring and maintaining single stage paints.

The feature that makes #7 unique are the TS Oils or Trade Secret Oils used to create this pure, non-abrasive polish formulated back in the 1920's. The product itself, #7 Sealer Reseal Glaze I'm told by Barry Meguiar, was introduced in the 1930's but the unique oil base behind the product was created by the founder, Frank Meguiar Jr. back during the time of the Model T.

I discovered the change the night I hand rubbed the original single stage paint on a barn find, 1969 Ford Thunderbird. The technique I use to restore antique paint is to apply a heavy saturation of #7 Show Car Glaze and then let it soak in over night. The next morning I'll remove the first application and then repeat the process 2-3 more times depending upon how severe the oxidation is and how important it is to me to restore and preserve the original paint.

My normal routine is to pour a generous amount of #7 onto a cotton, terry cloth wash cloth and then work the product over and into the paint using good old-fashioned elbow grease. The trade secrete oils unique to #7 Show Car Glaze do two things,

1: Act as a lubricant between the paint and the nap or tiny loops of fiber that make up cotton terry cloth. As you rub the #7 over the paint these oils lubricate the surface as the tiny loops of fiber act as a gentle form of abrasive to gently remove years and even decades of dead oxidized paint. This is a dramatically safer approach than the knee-jerk reaction and method most detailers would use which would be to apply a coarse compound or even more caveman... wet sand.


2: The oils penetrate into the paint where they react with the pigments and restore the full richness of color.


It is these two actions that enable thousands of people I've met over the years as well as myself to safely and correctly restore antique paint on classic and antique cars and muscle cars from the 1960's and 1970's.


Visual Change
When I poured out a generous amount of the #7 Show Car Glaze onto my cotton terry cloth wash cloth I instantly noticed the difference in appearance. Normally #7 is a khaki tan to a light green in color. The product I poured out was white.


To say I was in shock would be an understatement.


It's possible that I've used #7 to restore more antique single stage paint more than anyone still breathing today. I am fully aware of how it looks, how it smells and how it feels when you rub it over paint. So when I poured some out and the color was white I knew there had been a change.

I called one of my very good contacts at Meguiar’s and told him what I just had seen with my own two eyes and he patiently put all my worst fears to rest. He told me why the change took place and completely, 100% assured me that the key ingredients that we all love about #7 are still in the formula and although one of the original ingredients is no longer being used, the replacement ingredient works better than the original in all aspects.

He strongly encouraged me to continue with the #7 Rub-down just like I would normally do and told me to pay close attention to the performance of the product and assured me that not only would it work the same that it would in face work better.

I'm here to tell you... I agree with him. And after using the new formula I'm convinced he's right - the new formula works just as good and in my opinion maybe even a tick better.


Here's a picture from when I did the #7 rub-down to the original paint on Wayne Carini's 1953 Hudson Hornet.

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Here's the picture I took the other night ago when I did the #7 rub-down to the original paint on the 1969 Ford Thunderbird.

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I have 2 VERY cool cars coming up with the original single stage paint that I've been asked to restore for the owners. Both are rare and both are in dire need of the #7 rub-down to save the paint. I have absolute confidence in the new formula to enable me to restore the paint. While it's a little sad to say goodbye to an old friend I'm happy to say hello to my new friend updated #7 Show Car Glaze.



And just like the original single stage paint on Wayne Carini's car came out looking like brand new...

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The original paint on the 1969 Ford Thunderbird came out looking like brand new....

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Awesome, thanks for taking the time to update the forum Mike, much appreciated.
 
Thanks for updating us, Mike. I noticed the different color in the T-Bird thread and was curious myself. I've been using M07 since the clear round bottle days when I painted my '67 Malibu in '71.

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As you know, I massage a couple apps of M07 into my El Camino in preparation for the one show I enter each year.
Plus, I have a good friend with an original '70 Z28 he's owned since '71 and I promised him I'd do the process on it once he gets it running again.
I was afraid I was going to have to make the rounds of the local parts stores in search of the old stuff.

BTW, How's your own truck doing? I saw Lou and Jarred doing the transfer case/ turbo 400 and cab corners. Did you have anything else done?

Bill
 
Does it still have the same scent ?

Yes. There's no discernible difference except for the color and the unique and unforgettable scent remains the same.


I just had lunch with Wayne Carini and before going to lunch we were in my office and I shared this thread with him. The comment he made about #7 (besides the color) is that he knows from years of experience using #7 that it has its own unique scent.


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A "change"...in Meguiar's #7 formulation???
NO, say it isn't so!!!

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I've often found myself identifying with the
writings of Michael Shermer in his book titled:
"The Believing Brain", wherein he penned:

"humans have the tendency to infuse patterns
with: Meaning; Intention; and Agency..."

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Bob
 
Thanks for the update. I have an almost-new bottle of the prior version. Guess I'll hold onto that and not use it (much).

Goes well with my M16 (I have a couple of new tins).

If only I could find the M80.
 
Wow, great thread, Mike, with a happy ending...you scared me a little when you started out.
 
I was shocked too! Two things I noticed is that the 'new' formula doesn't seem as 'oily' as the old formula. It also seems to take more 'color' off of the paint - maybe slightly more abrasive?

I did tear the shop apart and found half a bottle of the old formula, and finished the car up with that. But I'll give the new stuff a chance :-)

In my other post I said I didn't think the new #7 did as good a job, but may just have been jaded by my shock at the change. I don't like change when it's a product I've trusted for years. Too many things that work well are changed or disappear altogether in the name of "progress", so you can imagine how concerned I was. This thread, and your explanation, go a long way towards reducing my concern.........thanks Mike!
 
I was shocked too! Two things I noticed is that the 'new' formula doesn't seem as 'oily' as the old formula. It also seems to take more 'color' off of the paint - maybe slightly more abrasive?

Is it possible it just looked like it took more color off the paint, because the product is so much lighter now?
 
Thanks for the heads up, Mike! Gonna go pick up a couple of bottles of the old stuff here locally. Just for peace of mind, and nostalgia.
 
Wasent Imperial Hand Glaze from 3M very similar to # 7

Nice one! :xyxthumbs: I had forgotten about Imperial Hand Glaze. Was a really good glaze in the "appearance" definition of glazes. Does anyone know if they still make it?

Pleased to read that it is only a minor change to #7 & if Mike says its better . . . then, its better. :props:

Aaryn NZ.
 
Great timing on this thread Mike!:dblthumb2:

I have a project coming up on a 1930 Model A, SS black lacquer that was painted in 81. It was my father-in-laws, (mentioned him in the Papa Fred threads back in Jan and Feb). I've inherited the car, and can't wait to get to it. Of course he NEVER buffed it, EVER. And it's as swirl ridden as you can picture in your mind. Plus it has a couple of boo-boo's from a couple things falling on it in the garage. One dent in a fender, and another in the right side of the ol' fold up hood. That one unfortunately, he took a rattle can and tried to touch-up. You know what happens when you spray lacquer and enamel right? You get that weird crazing and bad chalky dull look. :(

But the rest of the car is as original as day one from the Ford Factory. He spent 5 years doing a nut and bolt restoration, and it was is pride and joy for many years. We are blessed to be getting it for sure. Heck... even picked up the PE-8 kit for all the little tight curves, nooks and crannies on her. ;) (Well... that's if the kit ever shows up, seems 4 days to ship (yes I asked for expedited shipping) when my orders have always ARRIVED in only 3 is the best that happens these days.) :dunno:

I do have a fresh (old formula) bottle of #7 sitting here though. Now you've given me a reason to head up to Advance and see if they've got 'new' or 'old' on the shelf. ;)
Might be interesting to do a 50/50 just for the heck of it. :)
 
Dear Mike
Do you usually polish these old gems before applying Number 7?
 
Nice one! :xyxthumbs: I had forgotten about Imperial Hand Glaze.
Was a really good glaze in the "appearance" definition of glazes.

Does anyone know if they still make it?
-I still use 3M's Imperial Hand Glaze (IHG)
-As of right now: AGO still carries it:

3M Imperial Hand Glaze is a gentle moisturizer, especially for beautifying freshly painted surfaces!

Wasent Imperial Hand Glaze from 3M very similar to # 7
-Meguiar's states that their #7 is a "pure polish";
that is to say: contains no abrasives.

On the other hand:

-3M Imperial Hand Glaze contains (their Trade
Secret) "Ceramic Materials and Wares".
[CAS# 66402-68-4]

Note:
Some people are known to classify
"Ceramic Materials and Wares" (CM&W)
(and their synonyms that are listed below)
as abrasives.

CM&W Synonyms:
•Antimony oxide calcium titanate silicate ceramic opacifier;
•Barium, calcium, magnesium, strontium, aluminum silicate flux;
•Calcined bauxite;
•Calcined clay;
•Calcined clays;
•Calcined fireclay;
•Calcined kaolin;
•Calcined Kentucky flint clay;
•Calcined lightweight aggregate;
•Calcined Missouri flint clay;
•Calcined semi-flint clay (blum);
•Calcined semi-flint clay (harris);
•Ceramic;
•Ceramic bonded alumina;
•Ceramic bonded silicon carbide;
•Clay bonded mordenite;
•Clay bonded natural zeolite;
•Cristobalite;
•Expanded clay, lightweight aggregates;
•Fireclay, calcined;
•Fired clay;
•Nickel oxide coated ceramic bonded zircon;
•Synthetic mordenite;
•Ceramic implants;
•Aluminum zirconium zinc phosphosilicate;
•Ceramic hollow spheres;
•Ceramic bubbles
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Bob
 
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