Meguiar's D115

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Anyone using D115, and if so what is it like? I was reading past reviews of D114 (discontinued) and D115. Very positive.

Can D115 be used in place of ONR?
 
I have used both D115 and ONRWW. I personally love D115 as a waterless wash. However, for a rinseless wash, I prefer the ONRWW. D115 works well as a rinseless wash, but it is more expensive the ONRWW. And what I love about D115 as a waterless wash, the slickness and scent, get diluted at the rinseless wash dilution ratio.

So if you are looking for a waterless wash, I recommend D115. If you want to do rinseless washes, I recommend ONRWW, Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash, or Griot's Garage Rinseless Wash and Wax.
 
Thanks joe. I'm giving it some time as I realize there is a bit of a learning curve with some products. D115 is on my list though now.
 
I love D115. It's one of the most used products I have.

I use it both as a hybrid rinseless/waterless wash and as a quick detailer on my black vehicles (2 bikes and a truck). I use a 4:1 mix ratio but it can be diluted up to 20:1.

And as a bonus, I love the way the stuff smells.
 
It’s very great stuff. It works just like the OTC Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere. I went through 2 gallons of it and used it exclusively as a waterless wash @6:1.

He’s right^ the stuff smells great.
 
I'm still playing around with Opit-Clean and ONR but am very tempted to try the Megs.
 
NJNinja said:
I'm still playing around with Opit-Clean and ONR but am very tempted to try the Megs.
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If you get a bottle of this, you’ll know exactly how it works @ a dilution of between 4:1-6:1

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You can dilute that gallon concentrate anywhere between 4:1-20:1
 
Eldorado, do you like it? Meguiar's said this works best with their ultimate paste wax.
 
NJNinja said:
Eldorado, do you like it? Meguiar's said this works best with their ultimate paste wax.
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I vouch for it. I recommend it.
I personally used it @6:1 so that gallon would yield 7 gallons. Pretty good deal if you compare it to OTC sized consumer bottles.


If you were to buy 7 Gallons worth of Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax anywhere, it would cost $489.65

Or you could buy 1 gallon of Meguiars Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax and dilute it @6:1 to make 7 Gallons and only pay $85.99

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If you buy the gallon, I recommend mixing up 1 gallon at a time using distilled water.

I use it as a waterless wash as its intended. I never used it as a rinseless.

It’s potent enough @4:1-6:1 to waterless wash a legit dirty car and do it effectively and safely.

And at that dilution the protection it lays down is solid.
 
I would say this was my favorite waterless product. A bit pricy but I felt it was worth the cost.

Smells nice and always left a slick and shiny surface.

In my efforts to consolidate product I do not foresee myself replacing this once my last batch is depleted. I will use Uber sio2 as a waterless wash as I tend to only really use one for jambs and a pre soak when I do rinseless as needed.


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I picked up a bottle last night and gave it a shot on the roof of my truck. Honestly, it wasn't drastically different than the Opti-Clean. Maybe its just how these products are, I'm not sure. I need more time to mess around with it.
 
I've been using the OTC Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax a LOT this year. I can get a bottle at Walmart for just under $10, if I'm not mistaken. I still get skeeved out when I use it (just because of the entire concept of waterless washing), but I can't say I've had any problems with it at all...just being mindful of good technique each time I do.

Question - A product like ONR can be diluted 256:1 as a rinseless wash and 128:1 as a waterless wash. Does it seem reasonable to use it at 128:1 as a RINSELESS wash? It seems like you'd get even more lubricity if you did, right?
 
vaca22 said:
I've been using the OTC Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax a LOT this year. I can get a bottle at Walmart for just under $10, if I'm not mistaken. I still get skeeved out when I use it (just because of the entire concept of waterless washing), but I can't say I've had any problems with it at all...just being mindful of good technique each time I do.

Question - A product like ONR can be diluted 256:1 as a rinseless wash and 128:1 as a waterless wash. Does it seem reasonable to use it at 128:1 as a RINSELESS wash? It seems like you'd get even more lubricity if you did, right?
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I tested the Megs UWW&W and Opti-Clean on paint and on bathroom mirror. The Megs streaked less and dried clearer, quicker, but not by much. I'd say they are very comparable.

Honestly, I'm wondering if ONR or equivalent type product diluted is better than both Opti-Clean and UWW&W for quick touch up of semi-dusty/dirty paint? Waterless washing is pushing it IMO.

The guy from Forensic Detailing tested all of them and ONR (in his tests) showed the least scratches on a test panel. That is something to consider as well.
 
I doubt I'll ever do a full waterless wash, but it is nice knowing it can be done.

I just tried ONR @ 1:128 and it works fantastic as a QD.

The goal is to find a product I can use in between washes to touch up the paint - rain for example. You cleaned your car, but it rained overnight. That's the extent of what I'm after, in which case ONR works like a champ.
 
vaca22 said:
I've been using the OTC Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax a LOT this year. I can get a bottle at Walmart for just under $10, if I'm not mistaken. I still get skeeved out when I use it (just because of the entire concept of waterless washing), but I can't say I've had any problems with it at all...just being mindful of good technique each time I do.

Question - A product like ONR can be diluted 256:1 as a rinseless wash and 128:1 as a waterless wash. Does it seem reasonable to use it at 128:1 as a RINSELESS wash? It seems like you'd get even more lubricity if you did, right?
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Seems like a logical assumption to me. When I use ONR, I tend to put a tid bit more than the ratio calls for. I wouldn't say it ends up being 128:1, though. It's too streaky for me. I think I might give Megs D115 a try as I always end up following ONR with Beadmaker anyway.
 
NJNinja said:
Honestly, I'm wondering if ONR or equivalent type product diluted is better than both Opti-Clean and UWW&W for quick touch up of semi-dusty/dirty paint? Waterless washing is pushing it IMO.
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I don’t see how it would be better.
My reason for not sticking with D115 was simply due to deciding to go with another form of protection as my base, and even though the D115 wouldn’t have been the base, it’s significant enough to interfere [for lack of a better word]

I chose to replace it with Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash Concentrate as my go to waterless wash. With the WG I have a product that doesn’t leave a significant amount of protection, but on the otherhand feels noticeably less potent/capable than D115 which means I feel the need to be more careful when I waterless wash.

IMO, using the WG Uber is kind of like using Prestone Yellow Universal Coolant vs. Dexcool [or whatever your owners manual recommends for your vehicle]
The Prestone coolant will get you by, and is more cost effective, but the specialized coolant exceeds the bare minimum requirements in every key factor.
 
NJNinja said:
I doubt I'll ever do a full waterless wash, but it is nice knowing it can be done.

I just tried ONR @ 1:128 and it works fantastic as a QD.

The goal is to find a product I can use in between washes to touch up the paint - rain for example. You cleaned your car, but it rained overnight. That's the extent of what I'm after, in which case ONR works like a champ.
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Doesn’t the label say to mix at 1:8 for a quick detailer dilution? I know we all adjust the ratios for performance or streaking but 1:128 seems like a very light ratio
 
vobro said:
Doesn’t the label say to mix at 1:8 for a quick detailer dilution? I know we all adjust the ratios for performance or streaking but 1:128 seems like a very light ratio
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You're right. I ended up asking the Optimum folks on the forum and the QD ratio is actually 16:1. I used ONR this morning on a wet rained on car @ 128:1 and it worked perfectly.

Rinseless washing- 256:1
Water softener – 256:1
Glass cleaner – 256:1
Clay bar lubricant – 64:1
Quick detailer – 16:1
Drying aid – 16:1
Interior cleaner – 256:1
Before pre-rinsing – 256:1
Engine bay cleaning – 16:1
 
If you're looking for something that "leaves nothing behind" then M37 N914 has been a go to for me for a while now. If you're looking for something that does add some sort of gloss/slickness/protection then the Wolfgang Uber sio2 concentrate is very nice to work with. Been using it to maintain WUCSC and am very pleased with the results.
 
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