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Here's a very comprehensive Mike Phillips M86 article:I came across this product yesterday and was wondering if anyone had any experience with it, either good or bad...
M86 Solo Cut & Polish Cream - Refinishing Industry
On the Autogeek.net store
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M8632 Solo Cut & Polish Cream - 32 ounces
M8601 Solo Cut & Polish Cream - 1 gallon
M86 Solo Cut & Polish Cream
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My comments...
As the first product to be introduced using SMAT, this was a real game changer in the machine buffing world for both the refinishing industry and the detailing industry. There were other "Single" or "One-Liquid" systems on the market but they brought with them the same swirling problems associated with traditional compounds. M86 overcame this with the new abrasive technology to make using a one liquid system a workable approach that delivered results that compared with the normal 2 and 3 liquid approaches used in body shops and by production detailers.
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Official label copy
Paint Defect Removal & Final Polishing, Same Liquid!
Method of application
For use with rotary buffer.
Note: When using a rotary buffer, be sure you are familiar with its proper use.
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While you should always follow manufactures directions I've found this product to work very well with dual action polishers with cutting pads, polishing pads and even finishing pads. Again, follow the manufactures recommendations and if you should decide on your own to use the product outside of the manufactures directions be sure to test the product out to a small area first and make sure you're getting the results you want and hope for.
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Directions
Shake well. Work one section at at time. Always work on a cool, properly cured paint surface.
Note: To properly prepare the surface for the Solo System, use #1500 grit, (or fine), DA dry sanding disks or #2000 grit, (or finer), wet sanding paper by hand.
Step 1- Defect Removal
Set rotary buffer to approximately 1800-2000 RPM's. Choose appropriate Solo System buffing pad. To prime new or dry pads, mist on M34 Final Inspection. Apply Cut & Polish Cream directly to properly cured paint surface and begin working in a 2' x 2' area with overlapping passes. continue working until defects and sanding marks are removed. Clean pads frequently.
Step 2 - Final Polishing
Set rotary buffer to approximately 1400-1800 RPM's. Choose appropriate Solo System foam buffing pad. To prime new or dry pads, mist on M34 Final Inspection. Apply Cut & Polish Cream directly to paint finish and begin working in a 2' x 2' area with overlapping passes. Continue working until swirl-free finish appears. Wipe remaining residue with a Meguiar's microfiber towel. Clean pads frequently.
Optional: For extreme gloss, follow with a D. A. Polisher application of M80 Speed Glaze or your favorite Meguiar's polish with a Meguiar's foam pad.
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Anyone that knows me knows I've used as much M80 Speed Glaze as anyone that's ever lived, especially for restoring antique and original oxidized single stage lacquers and enamels, that said, after using M86 to remove serious defects following this with M205 will usually be a more compatible follow-up with better results. Just my opinion.
Keep in mind that in the production buffing segment of the body shop world, the guys doing the sanding and buffing get about 4 hours, (if they're lucky), to sand and buff a car from start to finish if there are more cars in line for sanding and buffing, so speed is king and speed is one of the primary reasons behind a single liquid approach. Bubba-Proofing is another strong reason for this approach.
With a single liquid approach, you train your employees which liquid to use and then have them only change the type of pads they're using, usually a 2 pad approach, an aggressive wool cutting pad for the first step and a softer foam polishing or finishing pad for the second step and after that the car will usually be hand-glazed and kicked out the door.
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It's an outdated product....for today's CCs?!?!it's an outdated product for todays CCs.
I use it on pre 2000 cars. it used to be the #### back in the day.
It's an outdated product....for today's CCs?!?!
Back in the day? You only use it on pre-2000 card?
You're kidding...Correct?
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SMAT Timeline
Below is a list of all the current SMAT product in the order in which they were introduced to the market...
October, 2006 - M86 Cut & Polish Cream
December, 2007 - M105 Ultra Cut Compound
December, 2007 - M95 Speed Cut Compound
April, 2008 - D151 Paint Reconditioning Cream
November, 2008 - M105 Ultra Cut Compound - New Formula: DA Polisher Approved
November, 2008 - M205 Ultra Finishing Polish
November, 2008 - Ultimate Compound
November, 2008 - SwirlX
November, 2008 - ScratchX - New & Improved with SMAT
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Bob