Meguires m21 synthetic sealant

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Anyone tried this product yet? I just ordered a bottle and was wondering if anyone had any opinions on it.
 
It's a great product. You will like it. M135, which is the same as ultimate quik detailer and D156, which is the same as ultimate quik wax work great with it.
 
i buy m135 by the gallon, works great but i feel like it almost attracts dust a little more than other products, but otherwise a great slick feeling
 
My only advice use let it dry twice as long as they say! But I really like it!
 
This is how M21 looks like on a polished panel..

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No long term opinion yet, but I used it a few days ago and like it a lot so far.
 
M21 2.0 isn't a new product, it's been out there for years now. It is by far my most used WOWO sealant. I have a new ½ gallon in the shop plus a couple smaller bottles.

It is a GREAT sealant with plenty of shine and durability to match.

I'll also Polycharge it for insane durability! Just that once you add the Polycharger you have 24 hours to use it. (Well they say up to 48 but I like to get it on ASAP.)

You can also top it with the liquid spray waxes (they are more polymer sealants than 'waxes'). And if you are going for some truly deep "pop", let it cure for at least 12 hours (60 degrees or above) and top it with M26liquid yellow wax. You will be blown away how deep, wet, and rich the paint looks. :D
 
That's one of Meg's products I never tried.
How does it compare to WGGPS ?
I see it and it's much cheaper.
 
That's one of Meg's products I never tried.
How does it compare to WGGPS ?
I see it and it's much cheaper.
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Hey Kevin send me your addy and I'll send you a sample of it to see how you like it. I could Polycharge it but by the time you get it, it would probably already be gelling up in the bottle. ( if not gelled up completely!) It literally only takes about a half a dropper of Polycharger in a couple of ounces.


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HateSwirls said:
That's one of Meg's products I never tried.
How does it compare to WGGPS ?
I see it and it's much cheaper.
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It's very close to NXT in looks. :)

I have and use both M21 and M20, great products.

M20 is the weapon, that cleaner sealant that strips the old LSP and really cleans up the paint, and it lasts, great one step just to clean them up a little and put down great long lasting protection. :xyxthumbs:

You can top M20 with M21 also.

Maintain with D135 and D156. :xyxthumbs:

But yeah M21 is an awesome product, one you really have to try. :)
 
cardaddy said:
Hey Kevin send me your addy and I'll send you a sample of it to see how you like it. I could Polycharge it but by the time you get it, it would probably already be gelling up in the bottle. ( if not gelled up completely!) It literally only takes about a half a dropper of Polycharger in a couple of ounces.


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wHat is polycharging if u don't mind me asking?
 
stilltipping3 said:
wHat is polycharging if u don't mind me asking?
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The Guz said:
This should help.
How Polycharger Works
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Bingo! Thanks Guz. :dblthumb2:

To answer the original question. Polycharger basically is something that is supposed to change the way that products bond to the paint. Moreover making that bond stronger which in turn affects durability.

Back in 08, 09, 2010 there was a ton of talk about Polycharging products, and what MAY have it, as well as what was GOING TO have it. Then once products started coming out WITH it built in, shortly afterwards it was sold as a stand alone product.

As products that did NOT have the technology started coming 'on board' (as it may be) and using the new Polycharger technology they used nomenclature such as "2.0" changing to "3.0" or "new" etc. Around that time the prices shot up, as well as the reviewers opinions of said products. To date, products that have the technology are the most sought after (generally) and sell for more than those without. (Not to say that everything either has and/or needs it, much less benefits from it.)

There is also a difference between water based and solvent based which was a big factor back then on what products actually had this new wonder product included in their formula.

Basically, water based you can add it with indefinite shelf life. Solvent based (if you are doing it yourself) has a short, very short (like 48 hour) shelf life.

Now days numerous products have included the technology and we are paying for that inclusion! ;) Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax is one that used to not have it, yet now it does. Others like Ultima UTTG+ and UPGP+ are some that have come along since it was 'discovered'.

I played around with it long ago but ended up and bought a full kit last year and have been playing around with adding it to even more products I use. From my purely non-scientific exploration I much prefer to HAVE it than to NOT. :props:

FWIW a partial list of those products have been DG951, Megs 156, Griot's One-Step Sealant, Megs M20, Megs M21 2.0, Megs ULW, Megs M26, Megs M34 are some right off the bat.

It may have an effect on streaking with some spray (water based) products especially if it's mixed too strong. Also on liquid wax or sealants that are solvent based and also WOWO type it (in my experience) adds both gloss and durability. (Although it seems to generally make a difference in how quickly it hazes, as in much quicker.)

It's fun to play around with, although with some products these days running $25 an ounce (and likely are already Polycharged) those will NEVER be candidates! :laughing:

For instance, there was a time when BFWD was not Polycharged. It did however end up that way. In an old thread concerning addition of Polycharger to BFWD a reply back in 2010 went as follows:

"Emile, keep adding the Polycharger to your BF-320. When we added Polycharger to our products, it made a major difference in durability. The ratio that was added varies in all of the products, and while the differences are smaller, you can improve on them with the addition of more Polycharger. You should stick with the amount recommended however. I hope this helps.

jk





ProperAutoCare
Manufacturer of Blackfire and Eimann Fabrik"


From the above reply I'd say adding it to both BFWD and WGDG Liquid Seal will reap even better results. (And I have bottles of both!) :D


Here is a list of known products that they ( CH2 & H2O) are known to work (or not) with:

Manufacturer​
Paint Care Product​
Polycharger​
Dosing​
Autoglym Super Resin Polish
CH2​
2 per oz. Blackfire
All Finish Paint Protection
CH2​
2 per oz.



Deep Gloss Spray Sealant
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
Collinite Sapphire Wax
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Insulator Wax
CH2​
2 per oz. Detailer’s Pro Series
Poli-Coat Paint Sealant
CH2​
2 per oz.
Final Gloss Quick Detailer
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Duragloss
Clear Coat Polish
CH2​
2 per oz.

Total Performance Polish
CH2​
2 per oz.
Eimann Fabrik
Clear Pearl II Instant Detail Spray
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
Flitz Waxx
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Four Star Ultimate
Ultimate Paint Protection
CH2​
2 per oz.

Ultimate Paint Protection Spray
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.

Ultimate Gloss Enhancer Detail Spray
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
Jeff’s Werkstatt
Prime
H2O​
1 per oz.

Acrylic Jett
H2O​
2 per oz.
Klasse
All-In-One
H2O​
1 per oz.

Sealant Glaze
H2O​
2 per oz.
Liquid Glass
Liquid Glass
CH2​
2 per oz.
Meguiar’s
#20 and #21 Sealant
CH2​
2 per oz.

NXT Generation Tech Wax
CH2​
2 per oz.

#26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax
CH2​
2 per oz.

ColorX
CH2​
2 per oz.

Quik Detailer
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.

NXT Generation Speed Detailer
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.

Final Inspection
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
Next Generation Spray Wax
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Gold Class Car Wax Liquid
CH2​
2 per oz. Menzerna Sealing Wax
CH2​
2 per oz.
Power Lock
CH2​
2 per oz.
Mothers
Pure Carnauba Wax (liquid)
CH2​
2 per oz.

Sealer & Glaze
CH2​
2 per oz.

FX SynWax
CH2​
2 per oz.

Reflections Advanced Car Wax
CH2​
2 per oz.

Reflections Top Coat
CH2​
2 per oz.

Showtime Detail Spray
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
NTS7 Liquid Shield H2O 1 per 4 oz. Express Shine H2O 1 per 4 oz. Optimum Car Wax
CH2​
2 per oz. Poli-Seal
CH2​
2 per oz. Pinnacle
Liquid Souveran
CH2​
2 per oz.

Crystal Mist Detail Spray
H2O​
1 per 4 oz.
Souveran Liquid Spray Wax
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Pinnacle XMT Series 360 Corrects, Cleans, Seals CH2 2 per oz. 360 Spray Wax H2O 1 per 4 oz. Final Finish Instant Detailer
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Poorboys
EX-P
CH2​
2 per oz.

EX
CH2​
2 per oz.
Quick Wax +
CH2​
2 per oz. SmartWax
SmartWax
CH2​
2 per oz.

SmartSealant
CH2​
2 per oz.
SmartDetail
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Sonus Acrylic Spritz H2O 1 per 4 oz. Acrylic Glanz H2O 1 per 4 oz. Carnauba Spritz H2O 1 per 4 oz. TurboWax Paint Sealant
CH2​
2 per oz. Last Minute Detailer H2O 1 per 4 oz. Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss Liquid Wax
CH2​
2 per oz. Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
CH2​
2 per oz. Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Instant Detail Spritz
H2O​
1 per 4 oz. Plastik Surface Sealant
CH2​
2 per oz. Zaino Z2, Z3 & Z5 (do not use with ZFX) CH2 1 per 4 oz. Z6
H2O​
1.5 per 4 oz.
 
Thanks man:dblthumb2:
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cardaddy said:
Hey Kevin send me your addy and I'll send you a sample of it to see how you like it. I could Polycharge it but by the time you get it, it would probably already be gelling up in the bottle. ( if not gelled up completely!) It literally only takes about a half a dropper of Polycharger in a couple of ounces.


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