Mike Phillips on "Chasing Classic Cars" with Wayne Carini

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Mike Phillips on "Chasing Classic Cars" with Wayne Carini


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Last night Mike's first episode with Wayne Carini aired on "Chasing Classic Cars" on the Velocity Channel. This is the "Premier" Episode to kick off Wayne's new season for 2013 and it will repeat multiple times for the rest of the year here in the U.S. and around the world.


[video=youtube_share;VcdNIJzRKC0"]Mike Phillips and Wayne Carini on "Chasing Classic Cars" - YouTube[/video]


1953 Hudson Episode
On last night's episode, Wayne shared the history and story behind the 1953 Hudson he's been chasing since he was 16 years old!


Mike Phillips & Wayne Carini with the 1953 Hudson at Wayne's shop in Connecticut...

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Mike is known in the collector car industry as an expert on restoring antique and original single stage paints like the paint on Wayne's 1953 Hudson. Mike used his special process to not only save the paint job but to also restore it to its original factory luster. Before starting this process Mike measured the paint on classic car using the very accurate Defelsko Paint Thickness Gauge and as you can see by the pictures the paint was incredibly thin.


1.6 Mils on the top of the passenger side Fender...

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2.8 mils on a section on the trunk that was covered and protected since the car was purchased new.

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The average Post-it Note is around 3 mil thin so this means the paint on this car was incredibly thin. Any mistake made by using too aggressive of a compound or polish would have burned through the vintage lacquer and exposed the primer and even sheet metal below.


Here's a picture showing how thin a Post-it Note is to give you and idea of how thin the paint on this 1953 Hudson was. It has been 59 years since this car rolled out of the Hudson assembly plant in Kenosha, Wisconsin.


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Wayne giving the original factory paint a final wipe and giving Mike the Thumbs-Up!

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More Pictures of this Classic Car Paint Restoration

You can see the before and after pictures of the 1953 Hudson Hornet in the link below...

Wayne Carini 1953 Hudson Hornet Original Paint Restored by Mike Phillips



Mike Phillips and Autogeek on Chasing Classic Cars
Mike and Autogeek's segment will air from now until the end of the year during all new premier episodes on Tuesday nights at 10:00 pm Eastern Time on Velocity Channel.


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I am going to watch it tonight. I recorded yesterday's episode. That's awesome, happy for Mike and great series to watch. Nice pairing for sure. The professor with the collector. ;)
 
Great episode! I just love those old Hudsons!
 
Francisco said:
I am going to watch it tonight. I recorded yesterday's episode. That's awesome, happy for Mike and great series to watch. Nice pairing for sure. The professor with the collector. ;)
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:iagree: I also recorded but haven't watched yet.
 
Francisco said:
I am going to watch it tonight. I recorded yesterday's episode. That's awesome, happy for Mike and great series to watch. Nice pairing for sure. The professor with the collector. ;)
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Wayne is the real deal, by that I mean he's not only a die-hard "Car Guy" but genuinely nice and fun to work with. His team works hard and the cars he turns out of his shop are top notch. Looking forward to our next project...


MadMerc said:
Great episode! I just love those old Hudsons!
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Me too... my favorite detailing project is restoring the original paint on classic cars and working on Wayne's 1954 Hudson Hornet at his shop was pure pleasure. Some of the panels I literally rubbed out by hand just to be extra careful as the paint was incredibly thin...

In this shot I'm rubbing the paint out using Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover, which is a Medium Cut Polish that can be applied by hand or machine as Wayne watches my technique...

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I watched it last night,Mike. Too bad you got so little air time in the episode for the accomplishments you made, but I guess that's just TV.
One question arose after watching; You mentioned using a diminishing abrasive product on older paint. Is there a preference for DAT vs SMAT on older finishes or was this just an explanation of the polishing process for the general public?

Bill
 
BillyJack said:
I watched it last night,Mike. Too bad you got so little air time in the episode for the accomplishments you made, but I guess that's just TV.
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How little time there is for a TV show become very apparent when you start shooting a show. a 1/2 hour show is only around 20 minutes once you subtract Network Time and Commercial Time, (two different categories).

So just for the exercise, think about just how much information you can present in 20 minutes.... not a lot of time to get real in-depth...


In the TV world, a spot is usually 30 seconds or 60 seconds. A segment is usually 1 to 2 minutes and if you get 3 minutes or more that's out of the norm and considered a l-o-n-g time.


BillyJack said:
One question arose after watching; You mentioned using a diminishing abrasive product on older paint. Is there a preference for DAT vs SMAT on older finishes or was this just an explanation of the polishing process for the general public?

Bill
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The key priority when working on any paint and especially when working on thin paint that is important to the owner to preserve, not screw up, is to use the best quality polishes available. For polishes, (not compounds), I like to use diminishing abrasive polishes like I used with the Pinnacle products. That's my personal preference. A person could use DAT or SMAT but the key most important factors are,

Use the best products available
Use the least aggressive products needed to get the job done
Focus on the task at hand

Another option to bullet item two above is to use a product that is even less aggressive than what you think you need and then either apply it twice or work the product longer, the idea being uber careful.


I taught Wayne's guys how to use DA Polishers and the Flex 3401 while I was at his shop. When it came to working on the Hudson I let Marius and Brandon use the Porter Cable and the Griot's 3" Mini Polisher for areas that I believed still had good film-build.

For the tops of the front fenders and the hood however, I rubbed these out by hand using a microfiber applicator pad and did it very carefully, methodically and always paying close attention the the paint surface.

As soon as I saw the green color go clear I would rub a few more passes and then stop.

We did machine apply the Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax but we used a very soft blue Lake Country 5.5" Flat Pad on the 4.0 setting on the PC.


So all aspects of the project were performed very carefully.


The paint on the car looked a lot duller than it does in the pictures, one of those things where you had to be there to really see the true condition of the paint. The end results in the pictures are the real deal however.


Good questions...


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Tuesday night is premier night for "Chasing Classic Cars" so if you missed our segment last week you can catch it tonight on Velocity channel at 10:00pm Eastern time which is about 45 minutes from the time of this post.


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Thanks for sharing Mike, I have always enjoyed CCC with Wayne...seems like a true car guy! :xyxthumbs:
 
Ace22 said:
Thanks for sharing Mike, I have always enjoyed CCC with Wayne...seems like a true car guy!

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He's the real deal... I can't say enough nice things about Wayne and getting to spend three days at his shop working with him and his team was another pinnacle moment in my life.

To be fair though, all the guys I've worked with in the "Car Guy" TV world have been great and my guess is because the only way you get to the top of your niche in this industry is by first being the real deal. Just as important is always acting and talking like a true professional and that means being nice, being personal and being helpful to others.

I've worked with Dennis Gage now for three years and Dennis is the real deal, a true professional and really nice guy.

I've worked with both Sam Memmolo and Dave Bowman and both of these guys are exactly like they appear on TV and that is they are the real deal, they are true professionals and really really nice guys.

I've worked a lot with both Matt Steele and Bruno Massel and these guys again are both the real deal and both have their passions and it's what makes them both unique but also makes them real in a way that connects to everyone they're around. They are both great dads and incredibly nice and polite all the time.

I've worked with Bryan Fuller and Kevin Byrd and again... they didn't get to where they are without being professional 100% of the time and being nice too. They are both nice to work with and that includes to hang out with.


I've known Chip Foose since either 1999 or 2000 and he's exactly like you see him in the real world as like you see him on TV and that's incredibly nice and of course... the real deal.

I've worked for Barry Meguiar, never done anything on TV with him but since the first time I met Barry to just a few months ago at Detail Fest he's never been anything other than what you see on TV and that is genuinely nice and very personable to everyone around him.

I've met Jay Leno a few times, never have done any work for him or with him but he's always treated me like his best friend when we've talked.

I might as well throw Christopher Titus in here too as I've know Titus as long as Chip Foose and I seen him last year at SEMA for the first time in 2-3 years and he treated me like his best friend at the SEMA Banquet after he performed his comedy routine.

The one thing all these guys have in common is they are the real deal in their segment or niche of the car hobby and they are all genuinely nice 100% of the time.

A good friend of mine always use to tell me,


"You attract more flies with honey"


And the longer I live the more true that statement becomes.


But to your point... "yes", I would count Wayne as a true car guy...



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Mike, I'm glad this worked out for you and I enjoyed seeing you on the show. I remember you guys meeting at sema and chatting about it, so it's cool to see things panned out! Nice 50/50 on the Ferrari btw :)
 
Perfections said:
Mike, I'm glad this worked out for you and I enjoyed seeing you on the show. I remember you guys meeting at SEMA and chatting about it, so it's cool to see things panned out! Nice 50/50 on the Ferrari btw :)
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Hi John,

Looking back... Wayne was just as friendly and personable the first time I met him at SEMA last year as he was for the three day working at his shop...

On the set of Overhaulin with Chip Foose at SEMA 2012




Wayne Carini
Met and spoke with Wayne Carini about cars and detailing classics. I told Wayne I have an article on how to restore antique and older original single stage paints like "Barn Finds" to preserve the originality of the car. Wayne was very interested in the article and gave me his business card with his e-mail and asked me to send him the link. I'm also sending him a signed copy of my how-to book.

Wayne Carini of Chasing Classic Cars

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SEMA was a blast last year... already looking forward to it for this year...


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