Mini Polishers: DA vs Rotary

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I am currently running the GG 6" and I am in the market for a mini-polisher. I am looking at the Flex PE8 Kompact and the Rupes Mini. Two major differences there are the price and the Flex is rotary vs the Rupes being a DA.

I am leaning towards the Flex for the price point but I have never used a rotary before. I know a lot of people are scared of rotary polishers but in all seriousness, how could I possibly mess up with this thing? Has anyone actually damaged a finish with a mini-polisher? Being in small spaces make you be all the more careful anyway so I feel like I would be fine. Plus, if I ever wanted to switch to a full-size rotary, I would have some experience under my belt I guess. Thinking I could pick this up and work from the lower speeds on up.

Thoughts?
 
I don't have either of these particular machines, but I do plenty of surgical correction with my GG6, Flex 3401 and full size rotary using 3" pads. I also use a 2" pneumatic DA.

When doing intricate work, a rotary has the advantage of not oscillating; that is, you can see the very edge of the pad and it doesn't move, so to you can work right up to an edge or corner and get correction.

There are usually not too many spots on a car that require this type of work, so if you need to do two step to finish out, then so be it, minimal time spent

With the mini DA, in most cases you'll need to step up your pad and polish selection to get the correction and may be forced into a second step anyway. You will also struggle a bit to get correction right up to an edge or corner due to the oscillations, I'll normally take a couple extra passes in those areas with a DA, which is just more risk.

Finally, I don't know what those machines weight, but the lighter machine is far better for surgical work. When the funds are there, I'll be getting a Kompact to fill the gap in my polisher set.
 
Audios S6 said:
I don't have either of these particular machines, but I do plenty of surgical correction with my GG6, Flex 3401 and full size rotary using 3" pads. I also use a 2" pneumatic DA.

When doing intricate work, a rotary has the advantage of not oscillating; that is, you can see the very edge of the pad and it doesn't move, so to you can work right up to an edge or corner and get correction.

There are usually not too many spots on a car that require this type of work, so if you need to do two step to finish out, then so be it, minimal time spent

With the mini DA, in most cases you'll need to step up your pad and polish selection to get the correction and may be forced into a second step anyway. You will also struggle a bit to get correction right up to an edge or corner due to the oscillations, I'll normally take a couple extra passes in those areas with a DA, which is just more risk.

Finally, I don't know what those machines weight, but the lighter machine is far better for surgical work. When the funds are there, I'll be getting a Kompact to fill the gap in my polisher set.
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That was the other thing I forgot to mention. I don't want to worry about the DA oscillating and banging into the trim, etc, which is another reason I was leaning toward the rotary.
 
My vote would be for the flex as well. I don't have either, but like Audios said, the rotary will allow you to get right up to an edge. The mini has a 12mm throw which makes it less tight spot/edge friendly regardless of what size pad you're using. Also, you can get pads down to 1" for the rotary while I believe the mini uses 3".

As far as damaging the paint, I'm sure the mini rotary is just as dangerous as a full size in the wrong hands. It's still direct drive and with a very small pad, the pressure and heat are more concentrated. I'm sure it can be used safely with a little common sense and some experience though.
 
Yeah, seems like that would be a better fit. I imagine if the speed isn't too high, I follow the contours, and it's not in the same place for more than a couple of seconds, I should be safe right?Anyone out there actually damaged paint while using a mini rotary?

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I have the Flex PE8 and it is awesome. The PE8 is very powerful and quiet to use. Very smooth too. I was afraid of holograms as it is a rotary. To date, I have not experienced any "hologram" issues as the rotary itself is very light and learning your technique with the rotary is very easy.

The good thing about this whole thing is that I was able to make my PC7424 XP into a "mini-DA". I can use 1" pads to 5.5" Pads.

I now have 3 awesome polishers to work with. My favorite of course is my Flex 3401 for my "mini" Polishers I have the PE8 and PC7424XP.

If there were any future "hologram" issues the concerns have been answered with my PC. BTW, you can do the same thing with your GG 6" DA same backing plates and all pads.

I posted these pics in a couple of different threads, however, since you are talking about "mini" polishers here you go!

I hope you guys like!
 
I'm waiting for Griot's to come out with a BOSS mini, that has the rotary-style grip/trigger, for 3-4" pads and smaller.
 
AustrianOak82 said:
I am currently running the GG 6" and I am in the market for a mini-polisher. I am looking at the Flex PE8 Kompact and the Rupes Mini. Two major differences there are the price and the Flex is rotary vs the Rupes being a DA.

I am leaning towards the Flex for the price point but I have never used a rotary before. I know a lot of people are scared of rotary polishers but in all seriousness, how could I possibly mess up with this thing? Has anyone actually damaged a finish with a mini-polisher? Being in small spaces make you be all the more careful anyway so I feel like I would be fine. Plus, if I ever wanted to switch to a full-size rotary, I would have some experience under my belt I guess. Thinking I could pick this up and work from the lower speeds on up.

Thoughts?
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MIsnowman said:
My vote would be for the flex as well. I don't have either, but like Audios said, the rotary will allow you to get right up to an edge. The mini has a 12mm throw which makes it less tight spot/edge friendly regardless of what size pad you're using. Also, you can get pads down to 1" for the rotary while I believe the mini uses 3".

As far as damaging the paint, I'm sure the mini rotary is just as dangerous as a full size in the wrong hands. It's still direct drive and with a very small pad, the pressure and heat are more concentrated. I'm sure it can be used safely with a little common sense and some experience though.
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I have the Rupes Mini and the PE8. They both have their uses. I agree 100% with what was said above, the PE8 is a beast and to be respected. I melted my daughters headlight in a flash practicing with it. :buffing:

It is VERY powerful, don't let the word Kompakt mislead you. It is a very serious rotary. That being said, the Rupes Mini is my all around go to machine for A pillars, bumpers etc. The PE8 with the extension fits into the really hard to get areas.
 
custmsprty said:
I have the Rupes Mini and the PE8. They both have their uses. I agree 100% with what was said above, the PE8 is a beast and to be respected. I melted my daughters headlight in a flash practicing with it. :buffing:

It is VERY powerful, don't let the word Kompakt mislead you. It is a very serious rotary. That being said, the Rupes Mini is my all around go to machine for A pillars, bumpers etc. The PE8 with the extension fits into the really hard to get areas.
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:iagree: I have both and use both. I tend to use the mini more. Someone posted a paint twist on their bumper using the PE8 so must be used with caution especially on bumpers.
 
Optntdr13 said:
What in the world is a paint twist if you don't mind me asking?
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It's where the pad grabs the soft bumper paint and wrinkles the paint. Best way I can describe it..looks like a bunch of waves in the paint. There was a picture posted recently, but I can't seem to find it.
 
Rsurfer said:
:iagree: I have both and use both. I tend to use the mini more. Someone posted a paint twist on their bumper using the PE8 so must be used with caution especially on bumpers.
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I was going to mention that thread. I though it was on a side skirt, but painted plastic either way.

Optntdr13 said:
What in the world is a paint twist if you don't mind me asking?
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It is where the paint was actually twisted almost like Saran Rap covering he paint. It was from the heat from dwelling in one spot for too long and the plastic not being able to dissipate the heat. It sorta ripped and twisted it.
 
The Rupes Duetto can be made into a 3" polisher also but it's not really going to get you into too many more tight areas. Not sure how well an extension would work on a Rupes.
 
Seems to happen more on painted plastic (bumpers) than on body paint. They do use a flexing agent in the paint which makes it soft and easy to twist with a rotary.
 
Mantilgh said:
The Rupes Duetto can be made into a 3" polisher also but it's not really going to get you into too many more tight areas. Not sure how well an extension would work on a Rupes.
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The throw on the Rupes is too large (12ml) for an extension.
 
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