MOL Temporarily Closed?

[Silly Rabbit]

What does that mean? 3M doesn't want the liability of having an internet forum?

No idea, he said legal is working on things.

 

[BLM]

Yeah, but we're all weirdos here.

Maybe so. However I worked at an aircraft maintenance hanger and when one of my fellow mechanics told me "you always have the best looking vehicle in the parking lot" that pretty much made my efforts worth it.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Maybe so. However I worked at an aircraft maintenance hanger and when one of my fellow mechanics told me "you always have the best looking vehicle in the parking lot" that pretty much made my efforts worth it.

Hey, I never said it wasn't worth it to be a weirdo.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

Well I guess a decision has been made.

https://www.meguiars.com/mol-update

Well thats too bad. Kinda like this and Autopia, so much archived information.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Hopefully no one at Vision saw that, shhhh.....

 

[Eldorado2k]

Reddit is active with many posts about issues that cannot be fixed - failing clearcoat, etc.

Reddit can sometimes be entertaining to scroll through, but it’s a complete circus when it comes to the issues people post about and IMO alot of the advice given tends to come from the same experience level of the people who’ve posted about making what amounts to rookie mistakes.

At the end of the day, it would require too much time & effort to contribute to “Reddit Detailing” and it probably wouldn’t be worth it.

Its a sad thing to watch.

Yes, it is sort of sad to watch. Just a couple hours ago I was trying to find some old pictures of my old Cadillac Seville on this forum, so I went as far back as Tapatalk would allow and I saw so many old names that we all knew…

I clicked on many profiles just to find out that many of them haven’t been online in 1-7yrs. It was pretty surprising and a bit sad to wonder how fast time flies and all you can do is wonder what happened to them and if they’re doing alright or even into detailing at all nowadays. I wish everyone would come back to at least say hello from time to time.

Are you sure it isn't just forum participation as a hobby is dying?

I don’t think it’s dying. It’s this format of communication that’s dying. We come from a different time when typing a website on a web browser would take you to a treasure worth of information to be found, all that was required was your interest but it was there, along with likeminded people who had the same amount of nerd in them as you and that’s what made it great. But it’s 2026 and things have changed and most people have moved onto different options for information or simply different things.

No, it's dying in general. There's too many problems in the world now than to worry about swirled paint.

I disagree. As long as there’s 18-22yr. old guys, they’ll still be interested in getting laid and keeping their cars clean in order to attract the chicks they’ll need in order to get laid. Therefore detailing/maintaining a clean car will never die.lol.

Yeah, but we're all weirdos here.

True.

So rep from Megs said they are working on the site, which from the sounds may be redesigned a bit. The holdup is legal, 3M.

When I last visited Meguiars Headquarters in Irvine just over a year ago, Nick told me that the issue they ran into was somehow so complicated that it took the experts over an entire year before they could finally square things out and get that server operational again.. I found that shocking but he assured me that it was complicated but true. I’d be willing to bet the same issues are what’s happening now.

Something to do with E Bulletin server technology or something like that. Not sure if it got hacked or it was simply overloaded from all the years of backlogged information but it’s gotten to the point where it’s nearly inoperable.

It has nothing to do with 3M.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Something to do with E Bulletin server technology or something like that. Not sure if it got hacked or it was simply overloaded from all the years of backlogged information but it’s gotten to the point where it’s nearly inoperable.

Probably similar to what happened here and Autopia, where the VBulletin forums got so slow they were almost unusable. Fortunately for us PBMG/Vision decided the forums were worth keeping and they spent the time/money to migrate to XenForo.

 

[Desertnate]

Reddit can sometimes be entertaining to scroll through, but it’s a complete circus when it comes to the issues people post about and IMO alot of the advice given tends to come from the same experience level of the people who’ve posted about making what amounts to rookie mistakes.

I think this depends on the reddit topic. While I tend to agree those on auto deatailing are a mess, I've found other pertaining to other automotive topics, racing, and even some IT topics to be very useful and there are some folks there with a serious knowledge level. Heck, I even found one that helped me get into the diagnostic menus on my refrigerator to solve a problem. These days, when I do a search on a specific technical question, most of the time the best results point me to a Reddit thread. Does it tend to have more idiots than the forums? Yes, but they stand out pretty quickly and I just ignore their comments.

I don’t think it’s dying. It’s this format of communication that’s dying. We come from a different time when typing a website on a web browser would take you to a treasure worth of information to be found, all that was required was your interest but it was there, along with likeminded people who had the same amount of nerd in them as you and that’s what made it great. But it’s 2026 and things have changed and most people have moved onto different options for information or simply different things.

Spot on. I still sit down to a computer with a monitor if I'm going to do any serious writing, reading, or interactions on the internet. I use my mobile devices as a gap filler when I'm on the move, but never for any serious work. For many people today, it I've found it to span multiple generations/age groups, don't even own a computer. They consume all their information on a phone or maybe a tablet of some sort. Mobile devices like that don't led themselves to traditional forum use and other platforms designed around use on a mobile device have become more popular.

Where we once wrote blogs and long forum posts, people now do YouTube and TikTok videos. Forums have moved to comments on video's, FaceBook, Reddit, Discord, etc. It's more immediate and conversational vs. slower and more information-dense methods we used to do.

I disagree. As long as there’s 18-22yr. old guys, they’ll still be interested in getting laid and keeping their cars clean in order to attract the chicks they’ll need in order to get laid. Therefore detailing/maintaining a clean car will never die.

lol.

I know for sure around here, people might not be doing machine polishing to remove swirls, but keeping their cars clean does seem to fairly popular. In my area, I can point to nearly a dozen automated car wash places within a mile of my house and maybe 2~3 hand wash places. Most of those have been built in the last 3~4 years and the ones I drive by on a regular basis are always busy with people not only going through the tunnel, but also using the on-site vacuums, hand drying, and spraying something on the paint.

When I was at the dealership last week, the service writer asked me if I wanted to skip the complementary wash before I could even say something. When I told him to skip it, his response was, "Yeah all the BRZ and WRX owners say that because they do all their own detailing". That type of conversation never happened 5~10 years ago. Back then when I told them to not touch the car because I detailed it myself they would look at me like I had two heads.