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removing water spots? my roommate's car has water spots from sitting under the sprinklers all the time in Boca, hard water capital of the world. what is the best product to use for this? just a swirl remover or should I stick to something else?
 
I've had GREAT success with OC for hard water spots. The paint was so bad, and since it's dark, it was hard to take pictures. This paint sat in front of well water for probably 10 years.



BEFORE:

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AFTER:



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AND, the pad speaks for itself. This WAS a YELLOW EDGE pad before...

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oh wow... would klasse aoi be a comparison?
 
bambo2888 said:
oh wow... would klasse aoi be a comparison?

Nope. To get the paint like that, it took two passes over the hood, about 45 minutes. I had to break it down into 6 sections because the hood was pretty wide, and used LOTS of pressure, on speed 6. The paint was hot to touch, and I was lucky enough not to need a more aggressive polish/compound because I didn't have anything else to use. (I now have some XMT #4 and PB's SSR3 to use in the future)

Klasse AIO doesn't have any abrasives in it, nor is the product mean to clean something like this. You will need an aggressive (or very aggressive) polish to break down the years of oxidation.

Klass AIO is hands down the best product to setup any sealant, as they bond so well together.


Hope this helps...



-Nick
 
well, isnt AIO just that, an AIO polisher, cleaner, and sealant?

im not looking for any oxidation correction, just waterspots...?
 
bambo2888 said:
well, isnt AIO just that, an AIO polisher, cleaner, and sealant?

im not looking for any oxidation correction, just waterspots...?

Well, Klasse AIO can clean multiple things, for instance windows, shower doors, rims, paint, etc. Meanwhile, you wouldn't want to use PwS on your shower door or rims or maybe even the windows. There's two type of AIO IMO. The acrylic cleaer, Klasse AIO, and a true "AIO" with 3 different products, for instance PwS.

Well, what I enocountered was waterspots/oxidation. You can see where the bubbles like "melted" into the paint.

It really depends on how bad the water spots are. I have used an aggressive polish/compound like OC, and gotten some away with Meg's #80 (mild polish like XMT #2). It all really depends. Anything with a "cut" will work.

And if you have PwS or similar, try using this first with a more aggressive pad. Like a Orange or Green EDGE pad. If this doesn't work, bump it up to XMT #2/#3 or similar.
 
Whitethunder46 said:
I had to wetsand, nothing would take mine out, including OC.
Maybe XMT #4 or HC or even PB's SSR #3? I'm pretty sure #4 would work, as this paint was SOO oxidized, just look at the pad.. ;)


You wet-sanded oxidation or water spots or both?
 
well, the spots appear to have a metallic color to them (purple, blue), rather than just shapes of droplets of water. Does this help?
 
bambo2888 said:
well, the spots appear to have a metallic color to them (purple, blue), rather than just shapes of droplets of water. Does this help?

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. Usually water etching or water spots leave a white "ring" or mirror image of the water droplet.


Similar to this:


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I must really be old school. The first thing I would have done was a vinegar wash. If that didnt work as well as needed I would go to a decon system (FK or ABC)
 
nick19 said:
Klasse AIO doesn't have any abrasives in it, nor is the product mean to clean something like this. You will need an aggressive (or very aggressive) polish to break down the years of oxidation.

Klass AIO is hands down the best product to setup any sealant, as they bond so well together.

AIO is a great paint cleaner -- which is what it is designed to do. It WILL take care of mineral deposits from waterspots. HEre is a pic from Anthony (OCDetails.com, jngrbrdman on DC) when he used AIO on oxidized red paint.

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Poorboy's PwS will also tackle fresh water spots not etched into the paint as well. It also takes car of oxidation as well:

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If the water spots are infact etched into the paint, which most likely is the case, you'll need to try an ABC wash or get tough with heavy compounds and a rotary.....
 
Well I've only seen severe oxidation and water etching twice. Both times not even Meg's #83 wouldn't cut it. I guess it varies in the condition, but I've never seen Klasse AIO remove heavy oxidation. It says on their website as well..

No luck for me with it though, but it is a great AIO. I don't do it enough to worry about it. If Klasse AIO won't cut it, you will need to move up with a more aggressive polish.
 
3Dog said:
I must really be old school. The first thing I would have done was a vinegar wash. If that
didnt
work as well as needed I would go to a
decon
system (FK or ABC)

:iagree::iagree: I'd do this first before using any abrasive products. This will remove any mineral deposits and will expose the water spots that are etched into the paint. Then move to an abrasive polish as needed.
 
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