Mothers California Gold Cleaner Wax Question

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been using Mothers California Gold Cleaner was for a long time now. very happy with results. my question is being on that its a "Cleaner wax" if I add a second coat is it stripping the fist coat off? am I just wasting wax and money?
 
You can try to apply the second layer gently, but yes you are at least partially removing the first layer. Which is doing what it was designed to do.
 
I concur with DBAILEY. It will remove some for that seems to be what it was 'designed' to do. Why not just polish if you are after a 'deeper' clean? Then top with a wax or sealant.
 
Goonie75 said:
I concur with DBAILEY. It will remove some for that seems to be what it was 'designed' to do. Why not just polish if you are after a 'deeper' clean? Then top with a wax or sealant.
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deep shine is a goal. but my main goal is protection. protection from weather, bugs, rain, but mainly the hot Florida sun can be brutal. was adding second coat for extra protection. not sure if i use Mothers quick detail if that helps, hurts, or does noting. well at least that was my thought pattern.
 
Doubt the quick detailer will add anything protection wise to the paint. Better off with a spray wax between quarterly coats of wax

Something like optimum car wax in a gallon makes a decent budget wax


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MattPersman said:
Doubt the quick detailer will add anything protection wise to the paint. Better off with a spray wax between quarterly coats of wax

Something like optimum car wax in a gallon makes a decent budget wax


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cool. Thank you.
 
forrest@mothers said:
We do make a version of our Carnauba Cleaner Wax WITHOUT the cleaners. It's our part # 05750 in liquid, 05550 in paste. AutoGeek stocks both of them.

If I were wanting to add an additional coat, that'd be the way to do it.
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given your user name I would like to pick your brain one more time pease.

I did try to use the reg Mothers paste wax. seemed kinda difficult to take off. could be Florida heat. After registering on this board it seems like synthetic is the way to go. Being that ive been loyal to Mothers product since my first car (used to use the "Three phase system) .I bought the synthetic liquid wax. being from down here I am going for maximum protection from weather rain SUN ect. Car look great. was very easy to work with. two weeks latter I was rinsing it down to give it a wash and the car really didnt bead much. now I am old school and feel beading means protection. Whats your thoughts on this? Is the the synthetic wax (liquid) better? Does beading mean protection ect? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'm not from Mother's but do have just a second before I leave for a training at my 'real job'. Company going to G Suite--anyway... Bob, or FUNX650, whose opinion I tend to trust on here, along with Mike and many others... mentioned something in a thread I can't recall right now about beading vs sheeting kind of thing... 'beading' not necessarily being 'better' than sheeting in terms of indicating protection on the paint... and it may even cause more water spotting, etc... so if the wax you are using is 'sheeting' yet still protecting, I'd say that's a good thing... maybe Bob or one of the other folks will chime in... good luck

peace
 
Goonie75 said:
I'm not from Mother's but do have just a second before I leave for a training at my 'real job'. Company going to G Suite--anyway... Bob, or FUNX650, whose opinion I tend to trust on here, along with Mike and many others... mentioned something in a thread I can't recall right now about beading vs sheeting kind of thing... 'beading' not necessarily being 'better' than sheeting in terms of indicating protection on the paint... and it may even cause more water spotting, etc... so if the wax you are using is 'sheeting' yet still protecting, I'd say that's a good thing... maybe Bob or one of the other folks will chime in... good luck

peace
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Thank you for the input. Not sure if Mothers Synthetic is sapposed to bead or sheet. or did it just wear off quick. i rinsed it and very little very loose beads.
 
not to mention I just looked up reviews on different sites Seems longevity is what most people who complain about are saying. at best last two weeks ?
 
If you had difficulty in removal, my first thought would be too heavy of an application - it should be a haze on the paint, not turn white. I assume you weren't doing it out in the sun or on a hot paint surface, correct?

Our synthetic product is a much "softer" wax than the carnauba product - there's less slickness so I'd expect to see more sheeting than beading going on with it. I love the synthetic (particularly the paste) for ease of removal.

I'm getting on a plane (was at AutoGeek filming video spots the last 2 days) and heading home in the morning. You may want to call and speak with Jim D (714-891-3364) in tech support after 8:30 West coast time tomorrow - he can fill you in on more details while I'm traveling.
 
I can't speak for other brands, only for ours - since our synthetic is softer, you won't get beading like our carnauba based product.

Beading (or sheeting) isn't the only sign of a product's presence, nor should the lack of it mean the product isn't present any more. Sorry, but there's really no hard and fast rule you can rely on. Find the product you like, use it frequently, and enjoy life.
 
forrest@mothers said:
I can't speak for other brands, only for ours - since our synthetic is softer, you won't get beading like our carnauba based product.

Beading (or sheeting) isn't the only sign of a product's presence, nor should the lack of it mean the product isn't present any more. Sorry, but there's really no hard and fast rule you can rely on. Find the product you like, use it frequently, and enjoy life.
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Well I really have had great luck with Mothers. Id like to stay loyal to it. thanks for your input.I gotta stop thinking old school. You taught a old dog a new trick. Thanks again.
 
Goonie75 said:
I'm not from Mother's but do have just a second before I leave for a training at my 'real job'. Company going to G Suite--anyway... Bob, or FUNX650, whose opinion I tend to trust on here, along with Mike and many others... mentioned something in a thread I can't recall right now about beading vs sheeting kind of thing... 'beading' not necessarily being 'better' than sheeting in terms of indicating protection on the paint... and it may even cause more water spotting, etc... so if the wax you are using is 'sheeting' yet still protecting, I'd say that's a good thing... maybe Bob or one of the other folks will chime in... good luck

peace
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Living in Florida we get sun its hot as hell. then a down pour. my car beads up then the sun comes back out again. yes making waters spots. thats what I am trying to avoid. I already have some spotting as it is. Im not sure that when I use the synthetic wax it is sheeting. just know I used it. car looked great. very happy. week latter I rinse it to wash and the seems like the water was just sitting on the car. kinda flat.
 
If you can dry it off after the rains, use a quick detailer or spray wax as a drying agent and good microfiber towels. Makes for less spotting, and helps to maintain you're finish. If you can't always dry it off, and I know its impossible to do, use the detailer or spray wax weekly, and it will still help a lot.

I'm in south Alabama, so I do understand rain spots!
 
yeah the issue with that is it rains lets say at noon. I dont get out till 5. damage done. it is what it is I guess. i was just taken back at a week latter I rinesed the car before washing and the water just sat there. almost like it had no wax at all. maybe thats by design i dont know.
 
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