My take on Cquartz

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Hello everyone I will post my thoughts and experience with Cquartz.

Background:
I finally got around to polishing the wife's 97 toyota camry after getting harassed frequently :argue:. I figured a happy wife is a happy life so I went to work. :) This is only my second car that I have detailed.

This car never had any polishing or detailing in its life and I picked up a ton of crud from claying. The paint on this car had some clear coat failure at the back bumper and oxidation in the trunk, mirrors, door handles, and hood. Luckily, I was able to remove the oxidation on most panels. The back bumper, side mirrors, and door handles are a lost cause :(. The original paint of this car seems to have changed from a sand color to a silver color from the beating of the SoCal sun.

Cquartz Prep
Clayed with Automagic Blue Clay. For compounding I used an orange pad with Meguiars UC. I was surprised at how well this worked and left it LSP ready. I tried M205 on white and did not notice any improvement. I think the color had a lot to do with this.

I then proceeded to remove the polishing oils via Chemical Guys Wash and Clear at paint prep ratio. I spoke to Avi @ Carpro about my dislike with using 90% IPA+10% dawn and he said I could use CGWC or any product that strips the polishing oils. So I proceeded to use my foam gun for this process and it worked out well.

Cquartz Application
When I opened Cquartz it reminded me of a nail polish remover. The scent is strong and a good ventilated area or face mask is appropriate. My 30 ml Cquartz came with the little square cotton applicators similar to make up removers. I first started on the front hood and applied it by sections using a criss cross pattern. It was very tiring using those small cotton applicators and also hard to see the product being applied because of the light paint color. You need really strong lighting to see where you have applied Cquartz especially on the door panels. I found my Fluorescent lights helped more than the halogen lights. My garage was 70F, so I let each section dry for about 10-20 minutes before wiping off with a MF towel. Buffing off was relatively easy and left a clear finish. Everything went well with the application and buffing removal.

My only complaint is that I ran out of Cquartz :( and left the bumpers and top hood unfinished. I did coat the door pillars and am excited to see how those turn out. I thought 30 ml would be plenty. I initially thought I might have over applied but read on another forum how another member experienced a similar situation. He suggested it might be because he lived in a hot/dry climate. I found the product to flash very quickly and used more than 2 drops per panel. I later thought maybe the condition of the paint used up more product in some areas. If anybody knows if this might hold true please let me know.

Nevertheless, I am going to order more product to do the rest of the car and possibly windows and wheels.

After curing overnight I took some pics of the finish the next day. I have no idea how its gloss compares to sealants as I have very little experience and it looks the same to me. I've only used BFWD before and could not notice a difference.

Its only been a day so I cant test the durability yet and am scared to pour water over it. I will update in the following days for sheeting. I hope my review helps those who have ordered the product.

Here are the pics I took. I did not get many before pics because I was in a hurry. Sorry.

About 24 hrs after curing. Front toyota emblem removed.
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The window pillars is what I'm excited about. I used Meg UC on orange to get them nice and black then sealed with Cquartz. They were very faded before, I should have taken before pics.
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My bottles never came with the suede mf so I've only ever used the makeup pads. Like anyone using a new product, we tend to use too much to begin. You will get better at applying it sparingly. Wait till you hit it with water...you won't believe your eyes. Remember, no soap wash for a week now. Congrats!
 
Thanks richy, I also wanted to try that MF with block or whatever it is. I wonder if it will use less product using the suede MF? I probably did use too much product. Hopefully I get better at applying it the second time around. :)
 
I felt less wiping= less marring, so opted for CGWC on foam cannon.

nah, i gotcha there but were you combining IPA AND Dawn in the same solution? the way you wrote it surely looks that way. i've never heard of that, ever.
 
nah, i gotcha there but were you combining IPA AND Dawn in the same solution? the way you wrote it surely looks that way. i've never heard of that, ever.

Yes, I have understood it as mixing a solution of 90% IPA mixed with 10% dawn. :confused: So yes, combining them together in one solution. However, I have never used that solution. Please share how you have understood it?

Whatever the case, I don't like using any alcohol to wipe out polishing oils. I tried it with my G35 and it left marring. This is just personal preference because I feel the less you touch the paint, the less you scratch it. :)
 
She looks good. That stinks you ran out of the Cquartz and couldnt totally finish. Any Cquartz experts, how much of Cquartz is needed for the typical sedan? Is 30ml normal or is it more like 25ml? Just curious
 
Is the front bumper on that car tan and the rest of the car a grey? That first pic looks that way.

Nice write up and glad to see you opinion of it. So, as far as application it was pretty easy?
 
Looks great!

I found the 30mL to be barely enough for one car as well. Even after a few vehicles very little remains in the bottle. I used make up applicators as I feel they absorb less product.

GTechniq and OC will go just as fast :(
 
Looks great!

I found the 30mL to be barely enough for one car as well. Even after a few vehicles very little remains in the bottle. I used make up applicators as I feel they absorb less product.

GTechniq and OC will go just as fast :(

Thanks for the input. I have OC pro and I get about 3 cars out of one 40cc syringe, I may have some left over. I was just curious in regards to the price breakdown per application. $35ish for OC $50ish for Cquartz and $50ish for c1 (I think I have all that about right) With all that said $15-$20 really isnt that big of a deal.

Of the 3 which one is your personal preferance?

(OP sorry for the thread hijack)
 
Hi
First thing, are you sure you got the 30ml kit??? i am almost positive you got the 10ml bottles.
the 30ml kit pack comes with applicator and 5 suedes 10cm2.
and the 10ml bottles , which are only for sample use are coming with cotton pads! see pics bottles difference, left is 30ml right is 10ml
newCQbottles3010ml.jpg

this could be mistake delivery since AG has only started and could be beginner mistake.

about the ipa/soap mixture, we have found out that 50/50 ipa/water mixture is not real oil residue removing, its "lifting" it up the oil residue but some residue wipe again down to surface, thats why we recommend adding 10% strong dish wash soap , or even iron X soap gel ! which is good oil dissolving as well. this will make sure to break the oil apart , ofcourse need to rinse well with water after.
 
She looks good. That stinks you ran out of the Cquartz and couldnt totally finish. Any Cquartz experts, how much of Cquartz is needed for the typical sedan? Is 30ml normal or is it more like 25ml? Just curious

Yes, it did stink. I was surprised too because 30 ml seemed like plenty. It could have been over applying since I had never worked the product or the paint/heat in socal, I dunno :)

Is the front bumper on that car tan and the rest of the car a grey? That first pic looks that way.

Nice write up and glad to see you opinion of it. So, as far as application it was pretty easy?

Yes, sort of. The original color of the camry was some sort of tan/sand color. However, this car had never been garaged for at least 10 years and has about 210K miles. It was my wifes college car now daily driver to work. So the sun changed the color from tan to some sort of silver color, weird. The front bumper is about 2 years old and was ordered painted on ebay for a projector headlight retrofit done by me :). I knew the paint was not going to match exactly when ordered from ebay. The front bumper paint is not good either but she did not want to spend money on paint matching. Both bumpers need repainting and it may get done in the future.

I am glad you liked the write up. Hopefully it can help people. The application is not hard at all, its just tiring because you have a little small make up remover applicator that you are using to rub the entire car. It does not cover a whole lot of area and gets time consuming. It would be nice if you could use your DA to apply but I imagine more product would be used.

Looks great!

I found the 30mL to be barely enough for one car as well. Even after a few vehicles very little remains in the bottle. I used make up applicators as I feel they absorb less product.

GTechniq and OC will go just as fast :(

Thanks!

Yeah, I have a feeling people might run out sooner than they think with this product if its their first time using it. However, I feel its better to be thorough and cover the area well than to leave missing spots. Thanks for your opinion on the suede MF applicator vs makeup remover applicator. I wanted to hear someone's take on that.

Excellent writeup! Car looks great too :props:

Thanks CEE DOG, I enjoy all your write ups as well. I was a bit leery about posting the review because I did not want to make it about the car but more about Cquartz, especially since I posted in the product review section. I thought about posting it in the Show n shine section.

Thanks for the input. I have OC pro and I get about 3 cars out of one 40cc syringe, I may have some left over. I was just curious in regards to the price breakdown per application. $35ish for OC $50ish for Cquartz and $50ish for c1 (I think I have all that about right) With all that said $15-$20 really isnt that big of a deal.

Of the 3 which one is your personal preferance?

(OP sorry for the thread hijack)

PAR no worries, the more we discuss about the product the better informed everyone will be.

Hearing everyone being able to do multiple cars with OC also kind of convinced I had plenty of Cquartz. However, I do know they are not the same product.

Hi
First thing, are you sure you got the 30ml kit??? i am almost positive you got the 10ml bottles.
the 30ml kit pack comes with applicator and 5 suedes 10cm2.
and the 10ml bottles , which are only for sample use are coming with cotton pads! see pics bottles difference, left is 30ml right is 10ml
newCQbottles3010ml.jpg

this could be mistake delivery since AG has only started and could be beginner mistake.

about the ipa/soap mixture, we have found out that 50/50 ipa/water mixture is not real oil residue removing, its "lifting" it up the oil residue but some residue wipe again down to surface, thats why we recommend adding 10% strong dish wash soap , or even iron X soap gel ! which is good oil dissolving as well. this will make sure to break the oil apart , ofcourse need to rinse well with water after.

Hey Avi,

Yes, I am certain I got the 30ml bottle. It says so on the label in the bottle and its the same size as the 30ml bottle on your pics. I ordered my product from [email protected] and did not get the sponge block with suede MF towels. Instead, I got the cotton pads. I was disappointed by this. :(

I managed to do a Ford Freestar and a VW Jetta Sportwagen with 30ml of GTechniq C1. Which was quite surprising.

Good to know AeroCleanse. I may just order OC pro since everyone appears to have left over and use that to do the top hood and bumpers. That way I can compare the two products. I have been wanting to get a hold of OC for my baby soft Infiniti paint.
 
Looks great one day I too will step up into the coating world one day when I xan make up my mind lol
 
OK, i see, in that case it can be only these options, you consumed more than you needed for applying, and also the cotton pads absorb much more than the suede mf .
we made two packing for the 30ml, one with only cottons , and one full kit (include applicator and 5 suede's, this is because some customers prefer only the cotton's.
pls contact AG , and ill ask them to see what can do, i will ask as well.
we know for sure 30ml should be enough for average car size,!!
no need to apply thick layer, this is not a wax, less is more.
 
Avi,

Thanks for the response. I think I probably did add more than I should've and the cotton pads probably absorbed more.

I actually did not order the 30ml Cquartz from Autogeek.net. Instead, I ordered from Mike @ autoaesthetica.com
 
I did use the sponge block with suede MF towels, so that could be why I was able to get by with only 20ml. I actually like using the sponge block with suede MF towels, but it can be cumbersome on some curved areas.
 
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