Need Advice On Products For Black Car

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Just recently (this week) purchased a new (used) black car and thought I do a little web research on waxes. I haven’t had a black car seen ‘83 and figured times must have changed since then. Didn’t remember that car having a Top Coat ???

I remember back then there was a rule that you needed to do everything (wash, polish and wax) in the direction of the air flow or you’d have swirl marks … is that still true ?

I’m having information overload reading through all the different Car Care products listed on this site, but they appear to be the top of the line products. I’m one that doesn’t mind washing and waxing his car multiple times a year, but in Wisconsin that window is only about 5 or 6 months. So I could use some advice from the experience detailers on this forum as to recommendations. My first thought was to maybe purchase the Forum Favorite Kit, but as you can see, I could use some advice.

Thanks, Tom
 
You will get a lot of information and different product recommendations. The important thing is that you take your time to let all of this information settle in before you buy.

I was in your same exact position a few months ago and spent a good amount of money on things that I ultimately decided I didn't want once I had more information. The good thing is, pretty much everything Autogeek sells is high quality stuff, so you almost can't go wrong.

There are a couple of products you will want to look at, with many different companies providing those products, such as polishes, sealants, and waxes. Those will be the three main products for correcting and maintaining your paint. You will then have all of the ancillary products such as car wash, tire dressing, microfiber towels, sponges, auto glass cleaner, and interior cleaners. Lots of stuff to sift through.

Good luck, and remember, wait a bit before you make that first order to let all of the information you are about ready to get set in.
 
Tom, I suggest you look in the Click & Brag section and see what people use for their black cars. It's an easy way to get a good feel of what products you need to purchase to achieve those results.

Personally, I have two black vehicles and I polished them both with Poorboys SSR2.5 and then SSR1 on an orange and a white pad. Great results!

For sealant I use Zaino Z2 Pro and my wax of choice is Chemical Guys Pete's '53.
 
Polish- XMT s easy to use and highly customizable. Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and Advance Finishing Polish are also very nice.

For black....me, along with many others, are going to suggest Pinnacle Souveran. Its the best bang for the buck.
 
I would get a PC kit that comes with an assortment of pads and polishes, like the PB kit or the XMT kit. From there I would pick up a nice wax like Natty Blue or Souveran if you have the $$. Than I would get a various assortment of MF towels including a guzzler, car wash, schmitt. With that you will be able to have your car looking better than 95% of the rest.
 
wiscTom said:
Just recently (this week) purchased a new (used) black car and thought I do a little web research on waxes. I haven’t had a black car seen ‘83 and figured times must have changed since then. Didn’t remember that car having a Top Coat ???

I remember back then there was a rule that you needed to do everything (wash, polish and wax) in the direction of the air flow or you’d have swirl marks … is that still true ?

I’m having information overload reading through all the different Car Care products listed on this site, but they appear to be the top of the line products. I’m one that doesn’t mind washing and waxing his car multiple times a year, but in Wisconsin that window is only about 5 or 6 months. So I could use some advice from the experience detailers on this forum as to recommendations. My first thought was to maybe purchase the Forum Favorite Kit, but as you can see, I could use some advice.

Thanks, Tom
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Must for a black car would be:

PC7424
Edge 2000 6" pads
XMT Polishes (1-4,360)
Lots of Cobra MF towels (Guzzler is a must for Drying)
Quick Detailer - Pinnacle Crystal Mist, Finish Kare 425, Clearkote Quikshine
All White SHMiTT
Good car wash soap - Poorboy's Super Slick&Suds.

That's about it.
 
bambo2888 said:
Polish- XMT s easy to use and highly customizable. Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and Advance Finishing Polish are also very nice.

For black....me, along with many others, are going to suggest Pinnacle Souveran. Its the best bang for the buck.
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Does the Pinnacle Souveran cover up scratches?
 
Helps to mask them, yes.

If you have black you must own Souveran. It's a given.
 
Wash --- Duragloss or Poorboys

Clay --- any will do, Pinnacles Ultra nice offering

Paint Cleaner -- Pinnacle or P21S

Polish --- Menzerna

Sealant --- Four Star UPP, Wolfgang (consider adding Polycharger)

Wax --- Pinnacle Souveran Paste

Washing, drying will lead to most swirls. Do a search on "c6" I did a writeup you might like !! WELCOME !!!
 
So far im gettin the pinnacle souveran. Now what else do i NEED? My car has 2k miles on it and its never been waxed or anything. Should i claybar it before i wax it? I wanna polish out the scrathes but i dont have a polisher and dont plan on gettin one. Is there a good polish to use by hand because my back bumber got hit in an accident and the scratches are pretty bad but didnt get past the clear coat?
 
well, your prob not gonna be able to get those scratches out by your hand, i think you should atleast invest in PC..you will love it for a begginer...xmt 4 works pretty good with it to remove scratched..and just bump up the pad if you need to
 
scottgt said:
well, your prob not gonna be able to get those scratches out by your hand, i think you should atleast invest in PC..you will love it for a begginer...xmt 4 works pretty good with it to remove scratched..and just bump up the pad if you need to
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Well i got xmt 3 because xmt 4 is not reccomended for a new car. Should that work? Also, should I use a cutting pad or i shouldnt mess with that because its a new car?

I bought:
PIN-230 Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish
PIN-220 Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover
XMT-3000 XMT Intermediate Swirl Remover #3
PIN-312 Pinnacle Souveran Carnauba Paste Wax

Is there anything else i need or can i just use the advanced swirl remover for all my paint and #3 for the part thats really scratched up?
 
PolishPauL said:
Is there anything else i need or can i just use the advanced swirl remover for all my paint and #3 for the part thats really scratched up?
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Thats what I would do. Start with the least aggressive combo and work your way up.
 
I just got in another accident this time and this one is the first one thats been my fault. There is some paint chippin and its pretty scratched up on my bumper. Can i use polish over that or will it damage my paint even more?
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If its chipping, then dont polish it.
 
It could peel away little more paint by grabbing the edges.
 
Paint chips are a bummer. I have several, but I took the easy/expensive way out and had my local body shop touch them up with real paint and a bit of wet sanding. Now they're only noticeable up close (still annoying to me though).

A lot of guys DIY those chips but I was afraid of making things worse. Now I can polish and polish away.

BTW, I thought I'd polish away the swirls on my black Avalon by hand -- it'll never happen, unless I can get my hand speed up to about 2,000 rpm. I will eventually invest in the 7424 to make my vehicle look as good as possible.

Duragloss 101, 105, Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant, followed by Souveran Paste looks stunning on a black car.
 
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