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Hi,

Ive just bought a 2015 F350. It is caribou brown. I have been looking into coating the truck with a sealant like QuartzUK or similar. Its a daily driven truck that stays outside 24/7.

I do have orange peel for sure. I have the carpro velvet pads to use on my da machine.

My question- is M100 the correct product to use with this pad or should i use something less agressive like 205? The paint is defect free so far the orange peel is the only problem i see at this point.

thanks
Tim
 
I've never used them. I read the other day that FG400 worked well with them so I would go with the M100. I don't think 205 would do much. Hopefully someone with hands on experience will chime in.
 
Thanks for the info, i am justing trying to stay as conservative as possible to keep my clear coat as thick as possible but still get rid of the orange peel.
 
Not possible. Getting rid of orange peel is gonna take away a significant amount of clear coat. I hope you have a paint thickness gauge on hand?
 
dpk20x said:
Not possible. Getting rid of orange peel is gonna take away a significant amount of clear coat. I hope you have a paint thickness gauge on hand?
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^^^:iagree:^^^

Being that it's a DD and sits outside 24/7...
Your truck will definitely need to keep all the CC it can!

I'll suggest:
Prep your truck, as recommended by the manufacturer, for the CQUK. Apply the Coating...and enjoy your ride!


Bob
 
Someone the other day posted they were surprised at the small amount of paint they removed. Obviously just used to improve the appearance, not completely remove the Orange peel. I'm just posting something I read...so take it for what it's worth...
 
Don't listen to Bob


If the OP bothers you, knock it down some

I have not used the Velvet pads, but I have used the Denim with a Flex 3401 DA

The Denim is pretty slow going, so I think the Velvet would be even slower

Both Denim and Velvet are designed for a Rotary

Don't go crazy trying to get all of the OP

Don't chase it close to edges and body lines

Use lots of tape
 
I had the same dillema 6 months ago, new car that i wanted to apply a coating, but the orange peel was bothering me, i wanted the paint to be really smooth. I was ready to get the denim pads, but then i asked my self if i remove some of the clear to make it OP free or less do i still have enough allowance to polish my paint in the future? If yes how many times that i will still be left with a healthy amt of clear coat? (I will be using the car for a looong time so definitely i will be polishing the paint more than 2 times) I dont have any paint gauge, so I just told my self that i need to accept the OP, and deal with it when the car is older, since this will be more safer for my paint and pocket, i dont want any premature clear coat thinning to happen atleast in the next 5 years.
Deal with the OP later, and proceed with your coating application, dont worry with proper prep, im sure your car will still be shiny.
 
I generally see OP on vertical panels and CC Failure on horizontal
 
Carpro has two different pads for the orange peel removal. One for factory paint(velvet) and another for repaired or body shop paint(denim) which is notorious for Orange peel and being on the thicker side.

I have used the harder denim paint on my tailgate of my gmc truck which was repainted... In black. I used this without a paint thickness gauge because I am a broke college kid DIY'er and it was obvious I had a special situation. When I polished the panel before to test. I got color transfer! I was had thought I had just burned through my brand new paint job! Then I realized that it's not out of the relm of possibility that the painter may have used either 1. Single stage or 2. Tinted clear.

After my heart rate recovered I continued with my organge peel removal. I went slow inspecting after every pass to see if I am getting any burn through. I didn't so I went full boar. Turned my GG6 up to 5 and started doing my slow passes with a good amount of pressure like I was compounding. After a few passes I removed the residue to reveal a slightly flatter and more reflective surface. After 4 passes I belive I was satisfied and did the other half of the tailgate.

Now these pads will load up super quick and induce marring. So it's important to keep them clean and follow up with a polishing step. But they do work at least on super soft body shop mystery paint. Haven't tried the other pad on factory clear
 
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Keep in mind that the suggestion of Velvet for OEM paint is based on using a Rotary


The likelihood of tinted clear being used on your repair is zero


Do not use moderate pressure with these type of pads

Lighter pressure is suggested so that the pad is less like to conform to the valleys of the OP
 
Plan a few days for this project. A F350 is going to take some time. DONT rush it.

And take lots of before/after pics! What color is it?
 
Kitoy22 said:
I had the same dillema 6 months ago, new car that i wanted to apply a coating, but the orange peel was bothering me, i wanted the paint to be really smooth. I was ready to get the denim pads, but then i asked my self if i remove some of the clear to make it OP free or less do i still have enough allowance to polish my paint in the future? If yes how many times that i will still be left with a healthy amt of clear coat? (I will be using the car for a looong time so definitely i will be polishing the paint more than 2 times) I dont have any paint gauge, so I just told my self that i need to accept the OP, and deal with it when the car is older, since this will be more safer for my paint and pocket, i dont want any premature clear coat thinning to happen atleast in the next 5 years.
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^^^ :goodpost: ^^^

Hope the OP heeds the advice to not wet-sand his
"DD-outside:24/7-truck", that has an OEM BC/CC
paint system.

Kitoy22 said:
Deal with the OP later, and proceed with your coating application, dont worry with proper prep, im sure your car will still be shiny.
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^^^ I disagree ^^^

I'll again state:
Prep a vehicle, per the Coating manufacturer's
recommendations, for the best results.


Bob
 
Thx for all the replies. I think I'm more confused now than before. It just bugs the heck out if me to see the potential of the truck but the nasty orange peel ruins it.
 
allenk4 said:
Keep in mind that the suggestion of Velvet for OEM paint is based on using a Rotary


The likelihood of tinted clear being used on your repair is zero


Do not use moderate pressure with these type of pads

Lighter pressure is suggested so that the pad is less like to conform to the valleys of the OP
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All sounds like good advice. To the OP, I used a da with pressure and I was happy with my results so I'm sure the results you will get with the proper tools and techniques will be even better!
 
dpk20x said:
Not possible. Getting rid of orange peel is gonna take away a significant amount of clear coat. I hope you have a paint thickness gauge on hand?
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:iagree:

And consider this, if you trash the paint it won't be under warranty. I have op on my GC, I live with it. It is what it is. I have no desire to go grinding away on my paint hoping to reduce or remove the op. But it's your NEW vehicle, so your choice. The question I'd ask myself in your shoes is how much experience do you have removing or reducing orange peel? If the answer is none do you really want to practice on your NEW truck?
 
Bluegoat said:
Well it sounds like I should leave it be.
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Don't feel bad, this thread scared me away from it too. After a good bit of reading over the holiday break, I put in an order for some denim pads and was going to try to lessen the OP on my 3 month old Ram 1500. I think you and I read the same stuff because I had contemplated going with the velvet pads first, but after reading a few threads on them it seemed to be the consensus that they take a long time and most folks that used them ultimately ended up getting the denim to get there a little faster. After reading this following this thread the past few days, I went back and re-read those threads and it seems like most of them were dealing with folks fixing OP on parts that were repainted (not OEM) which I must have not picked up during my initial reading. I chickened out this morning and cancelled my order. Maybe I wised up. That would seem to be the general consensus of this thread (and a few others that I have since read). I feel your frustration with getting the truck all cleaned and polished and not having that mirror finish we are craving. I too just got into detailing a few months ago. Funny part is now I wonder how many of my past vehicles had OP. Probably all of them, just never knew what to look for.

I'd be curious which manufacturers do the best job with OP not being significant on their OEM paint jobs.

Good luck in dealing with it. We could probably start an OP support group, LOL. From the sounds of it, there'd be a lot of folks that could provide support in getting over it. :laughing:
 
If you live above the rust belt and since it's a DD, it wont be clean enough to appreciate to OP-less finish anyways.
 
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