mwoywod
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The first few times I tried D166 Ultra Polishing Wax on medium and hard paints I noticed a small amount sweating but because D166 looked fine (like banana pudding) I assumed it had to be from my pad somehow not being completely dry.
In the past week I've experimented with D166 on numerous other paints, and on different types of pads and machines. On any type of single stage paint on a ferrari or soft porsche paint it was a disaster. As you can see in the photo I took today while polishing a 1991 camaro with a new pad, the moisture in D166 was escaping the emulsion makes my pads soaking wet and the product impossible to work with. No matter if I use a few small pea sized drops or applied it heavy like mike phillips recommends when using cleaner waxes.
I contacted the distributor I purchased it from(before AG had it in stock) and he immediately contacted 4 of the Meguiar's Product Training reps he works with to let them know about my issue and to check and see if I just received a bad batch.
Turns out, all of them had similar experiences with D166 and have experienced this phenomenon on softer paints and especially single stage paints where so much water escapes the emulsion that D166 is virtually unusable. Some of the trainers said they had the problem when using a firm pad while others said the problem only occurs on some paints. They also said there is no point in sending me a new gallon because they all have experienced issue in their testing as well.
In Conclusion, I was extremely excited about D166 because I work on primarily classic cars with single stage paint and HD Speed has been a godsend. The only times I've been able to effectively use D166 was on my mom's 2017 chrysler mini-van and my 2017 Ram big horn. I did not experience hardly any "sweating" on either vehicle.
If you intended to replace HD Speed with D166 for final polishing on soft black paint, for 1-steps on softer paints, or want to use it on single stage paints, you'll be sorely disappointed with it's performance. Even though I know Meguiars has the resources, I feel they didn't allocate enough of those resources into testing on different paint types.
All that said, if you work primarily on modern cars with normal and hard clear coat and prefer soft foam pads, D166 is cost effective and should certainly meet/exceed your expectations as a cleaner wax/AIO.
Love,
Matt
The first few times I tried D166 Ultra Polishing Wax on medium and hard paints I noticed a small amount sweating but because D166 looked fine (like banana pudding) I assumed it had to be from my pad somehow not being completely dry.
In the past week I've experimented with D166 on numerous other paints, and on different types of pads and machines. On any type of single stage paint on a ferrari or soft porsche paint it was a disaster. As you can see in the photo I took today while polishing a 1991 camaro with a new pad, the moisture in D166 was escaping the emulsion makes my pads soaking wet and the product impossible to work with. No matter if I use a few small pea sized drops or applied it heavy like mike phillips recommends when using cleaner waxes.
I contacted the distributor I purchased it from(before AG had it in stock) and he immediately contacted 4 of the Meguiar's Product Training reps he works with to let them know about my issue and to check and see if I just received a bad batch.
Turns out, all of them had similar experiences with D166 and have experienced this phenomenon on softer paints and especially single stage paints where so much water escapes the emulsion that D166 is virtually unusable. Some of the trainers said they had the problem when using a firm pad while others said the problem only occurs on some paints. They also said there is no point in sending me a new gallon because they all have experienced issue in their testing as well.
In Conclusion, I was extremely excited about D166 because I work on primarily classic cars with single stage paint and HD Speed has been a godsend. The only times I've been able to effectively use D166 was on my mom's 2017 chrysler mini-van and my 2017 Ram big horn. I did not experience hardly any "sweating" on either vehicle.
If you intended to replace HD Speed with D166 for final polishing on soft black paint, for 1-steps on softer paints, or want to use it on single stage paints, you'll be sorely disappointed with it's performance. Even though I know Meguiars has the resources, I feel they didn't allocate enough of those resources into testing on different paint types.
All that said, if you work primarily on modern cars with normal and hard clear coat and prefer soft foam pads, D166 is cost effective and should certainly meet/exceed your expectations as a cleaner wax/AIO.
Love,
Matt
