New pressure washer time. Input/thoughts ?

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Hello all!

PW died in 2009 and wasn’t replaced because..... got divorced, moved on, life happened, etc. started caring about cars again and,was going to upgrade the polisher, BUT as recommended here I am using smaller pads. My machine is just fine now. This means money can now be spent on a good PW.

Ive always owned consumer $200 or less machines. The ones that have crappy hoses and last a year or two.

I want something better and will spend money propery this time. Buy once cry once.

In considration are:

sunjoe spx 3000
ar 383 ss
ar 630 tss
kranzle 1122 tss
kranzle 1322 tss
something I’m not,aware of??

I want electric, auto on/off is a must, and I’ll be using for car washing only (ok, furnace filters and other,household stuff). If I need lots of power I’ll rent a gas.

Points of interest...... PW will be used half the year (I’m Canadian, and we freeze), and I have a 240/40 amp receptical. I’ll consider 240 if there’s some benefit or cost saving.

When I owned the cheap pw’s they didn’t have auto on/off. Maybe this is why they die young?

i know the sun joe is overrated spec wise. Not sure about the ar consumer models.

Slightly leaning towards the kranzles, or the AR 630 tss. It has good specs, and I actually believe them.

Im also interested in the pressure pro eagle series with auto on off.

Thoughts? Do I give the consumer stuff another shot, this time with auto on off? Or do I spend more?

id also like to point out I have all the upgraded guns, nozzles, and lance, etc.

thanks
 
Hi I know how that divorce thing works...
I do a lot of Maintenance details and I use a Greenworks electric 1500 psi. I've used it for about six months it has been very dependable...

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I had a Ryobi that lasted about 2 years. I did countless cars and even a couple of sidewalks with it before it gave out. Consider looking at Obsessed Garage on YouTube. Matt absorbs himself into a finding the BEST solution to any pRoblem he has. He just recently did a run up of about 5 different pressure washing companies for those looking for the best bang for their buck.


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Since you added Kranzle to your list I assume you have the budget for it. Definitely a better machine than others. If the cheap brands I’d use greenworks or ryobi. Sunjoe sucks as they use proprietary fittings and non standard connection size for the hose. The standard hose sucks on all of them.
Check out Obsessed Garage Youtube channel for a nice comparison of all these power washers.
 
I own the AR 630TSS Hot and am VERY happy with it! I picked up a 50' hose, quick disconnects, a different spray head and stainless steel swivel and the setup works fantastic! I have no problems running it on a 15A GFCI, but I think AR recommends a 20A.
 
Ya, do check the Obsessed Garage channel, he tested every pressure washer on the market for all the major brands (Ryobi, Greenworks, AR, Karcher, Kranzle)

The one thing I can tell you, no matter what you buy, make sure you get a long and flexible high pressure hose. 50 feet or more is best. A good short gun also makes using them much better.
 
I’ve already got the mtm gun, and lance, with quick connects. 50 foot hose, check! I also have lots of fittings. I can hook up to m22, both 14mm and 15 mm. I’m ready for any machine I think, lol.

Been to obsessed garage already. It’s how kranzle got on my radar. I’ve watched all the PW videos. I’m Leary of sunjoe due to false ratings of their product.

Bsoares, do you own a kranzle?

B5visser, the 360tss is 18 amps, requiring a 20 circuit. I’m surprised your up and running. Have you used a foam cannon at all with the AR? Is your 15 a dedicated circuit?

Can anyone chime in on a 240 PW? I already have a dedicated 240 circuit. Kranzle and AR recommend dedicated circuits as well.

He. I last owned a PW they ran non stop once turned on. Are today’s Home Depot PW’s better than yesteryears?
 
bean438 said:
I’ve already got the mtm gun, and lance, with quick connects. 50 foot hose, check! I also have lots of fittings. I can hook up to m22, both 14mm and 15 mm. I’m ready for any machine I think, lol.

Been to obsessed garage already. It’s how kranzle got on my radar. I’ve watched all the PW videos. I’m Leary of sunjoe due to false ratings of their product.

Bsoares, do you own a kranzle?

B5visser, the 360tss is 18 amps, requiring a 20 circuit. I’m surprised your up and running. Have you used a foam cannon at all with the AR? Is your 15 a dedicated circuit?

Can anyone chime in on a 240 PW? I already have a dedicated 240 circuit. Kranzle and AR recommend dedicated circuits as well.

He. I last owned a PW they ran non stop once turned on. Are today’s Home Depot PW’s better than yesteryears?
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Yeah I have a ryobi from HD and it’s 4.5 stars on their site with 841 reviews. It’s instant on/off. Uses a brushless motor. 2300 psi. It’s low gsm but great for car washing.

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Look into Northstar electric pressure washers. We started using them and haven’t looked back. Also the AR B5visser is a solid unit as well.
 
I've been happy with my SunJoe.... But the electrics you mentioned are all good companies with no issues on PW itself. Kranazle will be better quality - but pricey....

As noted - You should also be thinking about upgraded hose/gun/quick connects to make it much more useful. And of course make sure you have the right circuit setup as well as proper sized extension cords as needed.

I have found MTM has an excellent selection and great customer service to help figure out what's needed if you have questions on hoses/guns/connections - they even have full kits to make it easy now.:props:
 
Kränzle KWS700TS

Specifications

PSI: 2400
GPM: 3.3
Electrical Requirements: 220V, 15A, Single Phase
Weight: 175 lbs.

This is one of 220V OG has. The benefit with 220v-240v is the higher psi+gpm you can get with higher voltage.
The biggest one on 220-240v we can get in Sweden is Kränzle K2160 TS. Workload psi is 450-2000psi and 3.0gpm. And it is the portable ones like the K1122 TST looks wise. I don't know if it could come with the electric outlet that fits for you. And the kränzle PW is a buy once. You can get spare parts on everything to it. Sure it's pricey but with a care of it you have a PW for life. And IMO the higher specs you have the budget to get the more use of it you get. You can hold the nozzle tip farther away from the vehical with a more higher specs PW. Then the kränzle PW you can adjust both the psi and the gpm to suit the work you are doing. I would also get one with the lower 1400rpm electric motor on it. That lower the noise level and the wear on the water pump. If you go up to Kärcher Pro PW you have a higher quality and the standard m22 fittings. That could be worth to look into also. I would call either OG or Kränzle USA and talk with them on which PW unit would suit your needs.
 
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Yeah I have a ryobi from HD and it’s 4.5 stars on their site with 841 reviews. It’s instant on/off. Uses a brushless motor. 2300 psi. It’s low gsm but great for car washing.

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Hum... stats for this unit seems very bad for car washing...

You want pressure bellow 2000 PSI so you don't damage the paint, and you want the most flow you can get and 1.2 GPM is pretty much the lowest you can find in a pressure washer.

This unit may be good, but it's not what I would recommend for washing cars.
 
I already have all the other components, gun, lance, etc. I’m now basically pump shopping.

I notice Matt doesn’t have hot water. Would it not be nice to wash with hot water?

The kranzles I’ve listed are only cold. The AR 630 can do hot water.

I’m really liking the north star 240 washer. Nice flow, good price, BUT it doesn’t appear to have auto start/stop. Too bad cause it’d plug right into my construction heater outlet
 
I really wish Northstar would do the auto shut off. I have two of them now and both are tanks. I’ve thought about adding the AR630 to have a hot water option.

bean438 said:
I already have all the other components, gun, lance, etc. I’m now basically pump shopping.

I notice Matt doesn’t have hot water. Would it not be nice to wash with hot water?

The kranzles I’ve listed are only cold. The AR 630 can do hot water.

I’m really liking the north star 240 washer. Nice flow, good price, BUT it doesn’t appear to have auto start/stop. Too bad cause it’d plug right into my construction heater outlet
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bean438 said:
I already have all the other components, gun, lance, etc. I’m now basically pump shopping.

I notice Matt doesn’t have hot water. Would it not be nice to wash with hot water?

The kranzles I’ve listed are only cold. The AR 630 can do hot water.

I’m really liking the north star 240 washer. Nice flow, good price, BUT it doesn’t appear to have auto start/stop. Too bad cause it’d plug right into my construction heater outlet
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The standard PW are mostly rated to max 140F. And that is what the kränzle K2160 TS I looked at too. The warmer water makes a big difference in the cleaning ability. Also foam benefits with warm water and prewash products gets more effective too.
 
Calendyr said:
Hum... stats for this unit seems very bad for car washing...

You want pressure bellow 2000 PSI so you don't damage the paint, and you want the most flow you can get and 1.2 GPM is pretty much the lowest you can find in a pressure washer.

This unit may be good, but it's not what I would recommend for washing cars.
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Actually the opposite of this ^^ in my experience(research I did and experience with owning using this PW since beginning of summer). I’ve used +2000 psi PW’s forever. Never damaged paint. These estimates from manufactures never accurate and that’s why I look for higher rating. (kranzel above has 2.4 and seems to work fine). And 1.2 gpm plenty to rinse off a car/truck. More would be better for your bigger flat surfaces (fences, decks, driveway) The OP was looking instant on/off which if I believe right is machine runs when pulling gun and shuts off when not which this does. It also uses a brushless motor which is more durable than the ones with brushes. Just my 2 cents on a more affordable options. If I was spending over $600 I’d buck up and get a kranzel. Last but not least won’t find to many PW’s with 800+ reviews at 4.5 stars from a reputable place.


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Auto on off is a nice feature. Would it be hard to add this? MTM Hydro sells pressure switches. Surely if a 200 dollar model from Home Depot can do it, it should be able to be added to a North Star or equivalent ?
 
bean438 said:
Auto on off is a nice feature. Would it be hard to add this? MTM Hydro sells pressure switches. Surely if a 200 dollar model from Home Depot can do it, it should be able to be added to a North Star or equivalent ?
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Prolly void warranty. Go with the kranzel


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bean438 said:
B5visser, the 360tss is 18 amps, requiring a 20 circuit. I’m surprised your up and running. Have you used a foam cannon at all with the AR? Is your 15 a dedicated circuit?
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I'm not an electrician, but I know the GFCI is 15A, however, the breaker in the box is 20A. Never "tripped" either of them.

And I do run a cannon- I have a couple cheap amazon specials with 1.1mm orfices. They generate sufficient foam for me, albeit, less than a gas pressure washer.

"Hot" water is nice. I live in Michigan where the low last night was actually -20. Even feeding the washer with ~120 degree (hot water heater) water dramatically speeds up the time it takes to wash off snow and salt buildup, and is a nice feature IMO.

I too was between the AR and the kranzle. No experience using the Kranzle, but I'm pleased with the AR.
 
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