New: SONAX Wheel Cleaner Plus | 30% More Powerful Than Full Effect - Anyone Heard Anything?

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I am wondering if anyone has heard anything about the new SONAX wheel cleaner: SONAX Wheel Cleaner Plus?

It says it is 30% stronger than SONAX Full Effect, while still being safe for all wheels, thus allowing for quicker and more efficient cleaning. It is also available in a 25L refill for a MSRP of $400! Though when you think about it, that's more cost effective than the 5L refills of full effect, when looking at the unit price for a more effective product.

So, anyone tried it yet? What are your thoughts? I usually love SONAX products, but want to see if anyone has tried it yet. Maybe I'll have to do a review of this and Full Effect side-by-side. We'll see... Maybe giveaway for review is in order... Hint hint... ;)

But in all seriousness, I love trying new wheel cleaners, especially if they're more effective, so it may find its way into a future cart. Let's hear opinions and reviews, if anyone's used it.

Happy detailing!
 
Looks interesting. I would also be interested in seeing if anyone has tried this yet. I use FE right now and love it.
 
Wow $400 holy cow. I understand the cost effectiveness but goodness. Still would like to see a side by side. I'd also like to do a side by side of sonax 's new bug remover vs 1z anti-insekt.

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When i opened this thread and began reading i immediately remembered the Sonax FE smell.

I am curious on the difference too. Sonax FE is expensive enough for such a small bottle but cleans my german customers cars very good.
 
Dangit! I just bought 4 , 5 liter containers a couple days ago....

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30% more effective and 25% more expensive than SONAX FE

In the 500ml size
 
Wow $400 holy cow. I understand the cost effectiveness but goodness. Still would like to see a side by side. I'd also like to do a side by side of sonax 's new bug remover vs 1z anti-insekt. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

$400 for 25 liters = $16 per liter isn't that out of line. CarPro TRIX is $27 per liter and is way better than Full Effect on wheels.
 
Haha Ryan, I know you are intrigued!

Seeing that video on the link makes me wish I had a car that shed like that. I guess the RAV...but I clean my Camry 3x for every time the RAV gets washed. Again with that video on the link...on the right side of the page...is that how much of that stuff you spray on? That guy sprayed the crap out of that wheel!
 
Haha Ryan, I know you are intrigued!

Seeing that video on the link makes me wish I had a car that shed like that. I guess the RAV...but I clean my Camry 3x for every time the RAV gets washed. Again with that video on the link...on the right side of the page...is that how much of that stuff you spray on? That guy sprayed the crap out of that wheel!

You know me Matt! I love my new wheel cleaners. I think in the product demonstrations they spray a very liberal amount of product, to show just how well it works. I think I get around three sessions of four wheels out of a 500mL bottle of Full Effect. Now, if it is 30% more effective, who knows, maybe you can squeeze out another session.

I'm excited to see this product come out. I know the European products are more effective than the ones we get in the States, due to VOC and EPA regulations. I wonder if the scent is any better than Full Effect. I know it looks to be a whitish, cream color, not the yellow of Full Effect. The nice thing about the neon yellow is the tracers, so you see where it is sprayed but I would gladly trade that for a better smell. :props:
 
I know the European products are more effective than the ones we get in the States, due to VOC and EPA regulations.

I thought the EU regulations were more strict?
 
According to the below MSDS,
It appears the % of these products main cleaning ingredient...


http://sdb.sonax.biz/cms-themes-sic...G_-_SONAX_Xtreme_WheelCleaner_PLUS_(GB)EN.pdf
Does it also smell 30% worse?
"I know the European products are more effective than the ones we get in the States, due to VOC and EPA regulations."

I thought the EU regulations were more strict?
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That video looks like the full effect version, not the new one. Should be interesting to see a demo of the new product!
 
I'm thinking you might get better coverage plus save on product if transfer to a pump aerosol spray.
 
I know the European products are more effective than the ones we get in the States, due to VOC and EPA regulations.

I thought the EU regulations were more strict?

Nope, at least not when it comes to most detailing supplies. If you look at SONAX corporate, German, website, you can see the wide range of products they offer in Europe. Only a small few are formulated to meet US safety guidelines.

I know even Dodo Juice has run into the problem, such as with their Red Mist not meeting guidelines, thus why only Tropical Red Mist is the one imported into the US. I believe it is on the Dodo Juice website if you want to read about it.

Maybe with fuel standards and things like that the EU is much more strict than the US, but with VOC, I believe we are much more stringent. Others may comment if they can add more information. Hope this helps!
 
According to the below MSDS, (that's applicable for both the Plus and the FE products)...
It appears the % of these products main cleaning ingredient has been toned-down a little for the FE...from that of the Plus'.

http://sdb.sonax.biz/cms-themes-sic...G_-_SONAX_Xtreme_WheelCleaner_PLUS_(GB)EN.pdf

Bob

FE wasn't (chemically) nor from reviews considered, to be the strongest of fallout removing products. The new one looks like it could be as strong as others but it certainly won't be any stronger than other offerings (assuming they are accurate in what the MSDS says)


Nope, at least not when it comes to most detailing supplies. If you look at SONAX corporate, German, website, you can see the wide range of products they offer in Europe. Only a small few are formulated to meet US safety guidelines.

I know even Dodo Juice has run into the problem, such as with their Red Mist not meeting guidelines, thus why only Tropical Red Mist is the one imported into the US. I believe it is on the Dodo Juice website if you want to read about it.

Maybe with fuel standards and things like that the EU is much more strict than the US, but with VOC, I believe we are much more stringent. Others may comment if they can add more information. Hope this helps!

The thing about Europe is not so much the regs being loose, they are simple different. The main thing is that no one bothers enforcing them. VOCs are not a big thing here (as they are with you guys) but there are lots of other things which the multitude of detailing brands (and, sometimes, the manufacturers themselves) totally ignore. Fallout removers are one such thing and I have been looking into this - some haven't even got hazard symbols on them, which is extremely negligent, but the detailing market is un-interested by H&S so no one ever complains so nothing ever gets done about it. This is repeated all over the place - basic health and safety regulations, flat out ignored, by people who are selling the products but have no knowledge of their own. Then, typically as members of the detailing scene already, they come along and assure their friends that it is all safe and they know what they are doing. It amazes me how people online can believe that a guy who knows nothing on a topic is suddenly an authority, just because he is selling something.
 
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