Newb here! best product to keep brake dust from sticking to the wheels?

ElSyd

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Hi - i am new to this forum and need some help. I've done a search but can't seem to find an answer to my question on products that repel brake dust the best. I am going to remove the wheels from my 99F355 and clean the brake dust off of the inside of the them. I have never done it and I've had the car for 7 years (but only 7000 miles). Cleaning the brake dust is no problem (i have the Pinnacle Gel Cleaner), but i want to put some kind of brake dust "repellent" to prevent the brake dust from sticking to the inside of the wheels. If it does stick , i want to be able to hose it off with minimal brushing.
Please give me some ideas on what product(s) to use? I have some DP wheel glaze that i thought i might use. How about coating that with some Klasse all in one topped off by the Klasse Sealant?

any suggestions would be helpful. I don't want to pull the wheels off too often (I'm lazy). Many Thanks, ElSyd
 
Hey there Elsyd....there arent really products out there that "repel" the brake dust but there are several that prevent it from sticking and make it easy to clean with just soap and not harsh chemicals. I use PB Wheel Sealant Poorboy’s Wheel Sealant: Protective sealant that improves & maintains the appearance of wheels. wheel protection, poorboys wheel wax it can stand up to the harsh conditions that wheels take like heat or salt in the winter. All you need to take the brake dust off is your regular car wash soap and water...I have even used on bmw wheels a pressure washer and the dust just comes right off. Hope that helped

P.S. I do it once before the winter and once after the winter ;)
 
Thanks, Pockets. I have read a favorable review or tow on you Poorboy's product.. any other opinions out there in detail land? thx, ElSyd
 
I have been using Wheel Wax for the past 3 months and have had great results. My wife's car creates massive amounts of break dust and I can now clean them with a hose and soft wheel brush.
 
Thanks, RSX. I read the reviews on the Wheel Wax and they were all 5 stars and just one 4 star. Sounds like either this or the PoorBoys are the way to go.
any other input? thx, ElSyd
 
Get "ceramic" brake pads installed. I've been using them for close to ten years and will never go back. Even on a new car I immediately had them installed. Reduces brake dust 80% - 90% - especially on the front wheels. Other that that - "go chrome" and or install "WheelShields" (if it looks OK with your wheels) and use Poorboy's Wheel Sealant a couple times per year. The mechanics will moan and groan that "ceramic" is not recommended and "WheelShields" are "too hot". Don't listen to them.

Best Regards,

Martin
 
Thanks, Martin. I have a Lotus that the previous owner had installed some Porterfield Brakes (don't know what they are made of). No brake dust ever. I have a Mercedes ML350 with stock brakes and the dust is just terrible.
Maybe one day I'll "brake"down and get some ceramics when my ship comes in. Many thanks, ElSyd
 
Cost of "ceramic" is roughly 1.5X the cost of the "regular" brake dust pads. Installation cost is the same. It BY FAR the best solution to the brake dust issue and they last at least 1.5X as long on the front and easily 2X - 3X as long on the rear so over time not much difference in actual "cost". The "dust" issue difference is priceless. If you have "brushed aluminum" (or "alloy") wheels they can easily be "etched" beyond repair in a few years.

Martin
 
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Martin - any particular brand that you have been happy with? thx, Syd
 
Get ceramic brake pad, apply wheel wax, and spray on Eagle One brake dust repellent. The EO is a new product and I haved used it. Lasted for about 2 weeks. Did a good job, but leaves a haze.
I do not know if AG will carry this someday.
 
I recently saw a review on the Wheel Wax that someone had put on about 3 months earlier and the dust washed off with just a pressure washer.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVFXPO8DaQM&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - MVI 1070[/video]

I must add though, I have only heard good things about the PBW.

DLB
 
Get "ceramic" brake pads installed. I've been using them for close to ten years and will never go back. Even on a new car I immediately had them installed. Reduces brake dust 80% - 90% - especially on the front wheels. Other that that - "go chrome" and or install "WheelShields" (if it looks OK with your wheels) and use Poorboy's Wheel Sealant a couple times per year. The mechanics will moan and groan that "ceramic" is not recommended and "WheelShields" are "too hot". Don't listen to them.

Best Regards,

Martin
When you say "WheelShields"are to hot and you then mentionDon't listen to them.How do you back up a statement like that don't listen do you have any experience when it comes to brakes or replacing brakes working on brakes for a living or even ASE certified in Brake repair.You shouldn't Make a statement like that unless you can back it from experience or done studies on Brake and rotor temperture.And by the way brake dust inbeds itself into chrome making it alot harder to maintain since Chrome rims don't dissipate heat as well as steel rims or Aluminum so the heat from the rims and the heat from the brakes and the by product brake dust it attracts itself to the hotter rim.Making harder to clean off.So the lesson is to remove the rim clean it spotless and use a good wheel wax and clean them offen.The heat shields are a lazy mans way out and DO Cause Damage and yes i can back that up
 
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When you say "WheelShields"are to hot and you then mentionDon't listen to them.How do you back up a statement like that don't listen do you have any experience when it comes to brakes or replacing brakes working on brakes for a living or even ASE certified in Brake repair.You shouldn't Make a statement like that unless you can back it from experience or done studies on Brake and rotor temperture.And by the way brake dust inbeds itself into chrome making it alot harder to maintain since Chrome rims don't dissipate heat as well as steel rims or Aluminum so the heat from the rims and the heat from the brakes and the by product brake dust it attracts itself to the hotter rim.Making harder to clean off.So the lesson is to remove the rim clean it spotless and use a good wheel wax and clean them offen.The heat shields are a lazy mans way out and DO Cause Damage and yes i can back that up

Well said Adam. I guess next we should go into ceramic pads discussion-lol.
 
When you say "WheelShields"are to hot and you then mentionDon't listen to them.How do you back up a statement like that don't listen do you have any experience when it comes to brakes or replacing brakes working on brakes for a living or even ASE certified in Brake repair.You shouldn't Make a statement like that unless you can back it from experience or done studies on Brake and rotor temperture.And by the way brake dust inbeds itself into chrome making it alot harder to maintain since Chrome rims don't dissipate heat as well as steel rims or Aluminum so the heat from the rims and the heat from the brakes and the by product brake dust it attracts itself to the hotter rim.Making harder to clean off.So the lesson is to remove the rim clean it spotless and use a good wheel wax and clean them offen.The heat shields are a lazy mans way out and DO Cause Damage and yes i can back that up
Take that!!:bash:
 
Martin - any particular brand that you have been happy with? thx, Syd


Honestly - No. I just have my mechanic order and install. Even an "off brand" ceramic is better than conventional. Don't know that there is too much difference between one brand or the other as long as you order from reputable parts supply outfit.

Martin
 
Honestly - No. I just have my mechanic order and install. Even an "off brand" ceramic is better than conventional. Don't know that there is too much difference between one brand or the other as long as you order from reputable parts supply outfit.

Martin

How is a ceramic pad better, just because it has less dust?
 
Hey! I might just be trippin, but i do believe that there might be something woth checking out. I was at the local autozone and i was browsing in the car care products when i came across a product that might be what you're looking for. It is made by Eagle One called Repel. It says on the back that after cleaning each wheel and drying, just spray it on the wheel covering the entire wheel and let it sit and dry before moving the vehicle. I tried some of it and it does exactly what the name replies. However, it only last about 2 months. The price was about $6.99 for a 32oz bottle. HTH
 
Honestly - No. I just have my mechanic order and install. Even an "off brand" ceramic is better than conventional. Don't know that there is too much difference between one brand or the other as long as you order from reputable parts supply outfit.

Martin
This will sum up brakes and anything in life.You get what you pay for.Why is it these aftermarket places can do a brake job and give you a life Guarantee ???And new car dealers charge twice as much.It's because the aftermarket brakes are crap .I never met someone who said wow after i put on aftermarket pads my car stops better then when i got the car brand new.I'm not counting on the guys who put Brembo pads and rotors or that type of system just your daily driver.I have customers come in all the time i give them a price for a brake job and they run out the door.Then a week later after they went to the local pep-boys or K-mart they show up with there head down low and said i should of listened to you.I never throw that up to them i respect my customers i fix there car the right way and when they leave i made another cust happy.I've always used OEM parts on all my cars .Oh and by the way i'm not trying to be a big shot but i'm rated of of the top ten mechanics in the county on the car line i work for.
 
Harleyguy and Others,

I don't mean to get into an argument on this topic but I've been "chrome-dipping" my rims since I purchased an Audi GT Coupe Quattro with some nasty alloy rims in 1986. The chrome may in fact run "hotter" (I don't really know) but it is much slicker than alloy or brushed aluminum so the brake dust sticks less - that is all there is to it. If you let brake dust just "sit" anywhere it will do damage but I'm a wheel "nut" and ALWAYS keep my wheels clean. In my "experience" chrome is much more resistant to brake dust damage that the other wheel options but abuse is abuse. I also used Wheel Shields on that vehicle as you could barely see them through the spokes on that particular wheel and the brake dust issue was significantly better. It was prior to ceramic brake pads and is/was a "poor mans" out as you say and I took it and loved it. I did the same process on the original 1991 Lexus 250 I owned as well.

Several mechanics told me the Wheel Shields would "burn up" my wheels and the Audi mechanic at the dealership in 1986 refused to even mount them. The Wheel Shield website published studies on temperature effects to my satisfaction back then so I persisted. (Don't know what the website says now as I have not looked lately because I'm totally satisfied they work just fine and yes, someone doing studies on their own product has to be taken with a "grain of salt" - I agree.) In their defense, I ran Wheel Shields for close to 200,000 miles on those two cars combined (and I do have a lead foot) and never had a problem. The Lexus ended up with 250,000 miles on it at trade-in - in 2002 and the Audi has 80,000 miles and is in storage. Will they work on all cars? - I don't know. I also installed them on my Mom's Camry back then and they are currently on her 2006 Santa Fe. (She, at age 80, does not really care about her wheels but I do. I take care of all the maintenance and detailing and her girlfriends are jealous big time. LOL)

Anyway, once ceramic became available that solved my problem and I just replaced a pair of pads on my front end with 60,000 miles on them. I had a pair installed on my girlfriends RDX when it was brand new and they have 30,000 miles plus. The dealership told her that would void her "warranty" until I called Acura headquarters and had them tell the dealership that was BS. Her wheels look great. I don't know that much about the physics of the various products as I am not a mechanic - just a lowly surgeon. I had to find a mechanic who was even willing to put Wheel Shields on my cars back in the day and even now the ceramic issue gives many mechanics pause. (See above.) My mechanic is GM certified - in Detroit, and VW, Audi, Porsche certified - in Germany, all circa 1980 with all the requisite re-certifications until just recently when he retired. He still works on my cars and he said there was no problem in 1986 and says the same now. Do not know what brand he uses but there ain't no junk in my trunk.

The only reason I am relaying this information is because I do have 20 plus years experience with Wheel Shields and close to 15 years experience with ceramic brake pads. Perhaps I should have detailed my personal "experience" a litle better before telling someone not to listen to their mechanic - in that you are correct. I have not run any "studies" on the heat effects of those two products but those mechanics that told me "don't do it" in 1986 and again in the mid 90's when ceramics became generally available did not run any studies either. Ditto for the Acura knuckleheads that tried to browbeat my girlfriend. All I have is many years of positive results and a desire to help out El Syd on his brake dust question. If El Syd's mechanic does not agree then the discussion can end there. Frankly, I do not understand why ceramic is not standard equipment on all vehicles these days other than the cost factor as the automotive literature that I have reviewed shows them to be clearly superior on all fronts.

"Find something that works and use it often."

Best Regards,

Martin
 
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