Newbie with questions regarding Poorboy's World Polish and Glaze for White and Black Vehicles.

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I am a newbie to auto detailing, and will be making a big a purchase here on AutoGeek soon, stepping up to a DualAction buffer (do everything by hand currently), and getting some polishes and better sealant.

I currently use a pressure washer to rinse, use a foam cannon with Chemical Guys Honey Dew snow foam and a sheepskin wash mitt to wash, then dry with waffleweave microfiber. Occasionally (a few times a year), I use NanoSkin autoscrub (Fine) with NanoSkin Glide to clay, then Mequiars Ultimate QuikWax spray wax.

The vehicles are a Satin White Pearl 2013 Subaru STi, owned since brand new in April 2013, washed regularly, clayed/waxed 2-3 times per year. Paint is in pretty good condition, but does not shine like it used to. The second vehicle is an Attitude Black Metallic 2015 Toyota 4Runner, owned since brand new in August 2015, washed regularly with automatic washes, which has now started to leave swirl marks. I generally like only touchless automatic washes, but keeping the Chicago winter salt off has been a priority, and I have yet to find a good touchless wash nearby.

Here is the list of items I am looking at purchasing, any feedback on how these would work for my situation would be appreciated.

- Porter Cable 7424XP Value Kit (comes with backing plate, orange light, white polishing, and blue finessing pads)
- Poorboy's World Black Hole Glaze
- Poorboy's World White Diamond Glaze
- Poorboy's World Professional Polish
- Poorboy's World EX Sealant with Carnauba
- Poorboy's World Leather Stuff (Both vehicles have black leather interior)
- Poorboy's World Spray & Gloss (To use a quick detailer)
- Poorboy's World Spray and Rinse Wheel Cleaner (Gold BBS wheels on the STi)
- Poorboy's World Wheel Sealant
- Poorboy's World Bold N Bright (for the tires)

I think my primary point of confusion is if I will need both the Professional Polish AND the Glaze. From what I understand, the glaze will only mask the swirls, so I definitely want to use the polish to remove the swirls. Will using the glaze after the polish make a big difference, or can I get away from just wash, clay, polish, EX sealant?

Thanks in advance!
 
Seems like you are pre sold on the poor boys line.

However, skip the glaze. Its an unneeded step. A glaze is more to temporarily mask defects, the same ones you will be removing by compounding and polishing.

Besides, white Diamond Glaze smells so strongly of Pina Colada, you will want to be drinking one!!!
 
Skip Poor Boys all together

Going with a line of products that is more favored on the Forum will be helpful when you are asking questions about product combinations, etc.

I would suggest for the Subaru; which sounds like the paint is in good condition:

Meguiar's M205 Polish and a 5 1/2" White Lake Country CCS Pad

For the 4-Runner you should try the above combo on a Test Spot 1st to see how it does, but may need to get more aggressive. I would suggest Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and an Orange CCS Pad. UC has a long working time and is forgiving for beginning polishers. The CCS pads tend to be very smooth vs. Flat pads, so they too are great for beginners.

I suggest 5 1/2" pads for any PC, as they make the most of the limited power of a typical PC.

Have Fun!
 
I'd look to a GG6 instead of the PC for the better warranty. Several kit options available.

I think you could simplify your supplies.

-Menzerna FG400 (use different pads to help vary the cut/polish level)
-WG Spray Sealant (wipe on walk away with awesome looks, use on paint & clean wheels for protection) or Sonax BDS
-Ultima Interior Trim Guard Plus (use on all the leather and interior trim)
-BlackFire Exterior Trim AIO (use on tires, engine bay, splash guards..)
-Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner
-WG Uber Rinsless Wash (use for washing & quick detailer)
 
Thanks for all of the replies. I like the Poorboy's World products based on all of the positive reviews, and ability to work in many environments including direct sunlight. I know everybody has their opinions of what works for them, but why would you lean away from Poorboy's World? What makes the other brands better? I'm really looking for a sealant that will last up to 6 months, I have a hard time believing any spray wax is going to last this long. I should also add that both vehicles ARE garaged at all times when at home, which is almost always for the 4Runner (wife is a stay at home mom) and the STi sits outside in direct sunlight with no shade while I'm at work.
 
There not bad products for the money and simplicity, I think agoatemywallet was just implying that there really not quality products compared to what is out there more of a filler type products,there line really hasn't changed much.for the sti maybe go with menzerna powerlock sealer and do the same for the 4 runner.all the rest of the products you can stay with poor boys .
 
I would advise you to mix things up as well and go with the better product in a certain product catagory vs an entire product line.

I've used a few Poorboy products, and here's my take on them. Some are on your list.

Bug Squash: Best bug remover I've ever used. Just ordered another bottle.

All Purpose Cleaner: Great value and works well in multiple dilutions.

Super Slick with Suds car shampoo: Another really good product

Black Hole: A great glaze on a black vehicle that looks amazing. HOWEVER, it is a glaze and won't replace correction to permanently fix issues. Also, it has no cleaning ability. For a glaze I actually like Prima Amigo better since it has a mild cleaning/correcting ability in addition to filling like a good glaze.

Pro Polish: It's OK, nothing special. I find other polishes work much quicker at removing defects and leave the surface glossier.

EX-P Sealant: Looked pretty good, but protection was pretty short lived.
 
I'm liking the Menzerna polishes, there are so many different options though. Would the FG400 be too harsh for my situation though? I really don't need much cutting to be done, just light cutting, which I know the correct pad will help with.

What about the Chemical Guys V-Line? They seem to have very good reviews, I could maybe get away with just the V38? What sealant would go good after the V38?
 
I think you are on the right track to putting together your 1st big order. I would like to suggest a few things that aren't in your list...

If you decide to order a PCXP kit, I suggest ordering more pads than what come with the kit. Mike just wrote a great post about this: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-how-many-pads-do-i-need-buff-out-my-car.html

I'd also suggest getting pads NO LARGER than 5.5" and the thinner, the better. The PCXP performs better with that combination, as it's less mass to spin.

Another item that will be necessary would be a 3" backing plate and associated pads. There will be smaller areas that the 3" pad can get to that the larger pad won't.
 
So after lots of research, I think I am going to get Menzerna SF-3000 Polish, and Menzerna Power Lock Sealant. I already have some Meguiars Ultimate Compound if I have some tough scratches to work on. Now I just need to decide on interior, wheel and tire care, as well as what pads to get. I do think I will want some small pads, the STi has lots of little curves to work with, so thanks for that tip. Being that I don't have to deal with neglected paint, do I really need orange pads, or would the pink work? I just want to do as little cutting as possible, and my paint is not neglected by any means.
 
morphiasx said:
So after lots of research, I think I am going to get Menzerna SF-3000 Polish, and Menzerna Power Lock Sealant. I already have some Meguiars Ultimate Compound if I have some tough scratches to work on. Now I just need to decide on interior, wheel and tire care, as well as what pads to get. I do think I will want some small pads, the STi has lots of little curves to work with, so thanks for that tip. Being that I don't have to deal with neglected paint, do I really need orange pads, or would the pink work? I just want to do as little cutting as possible, and my paint is not neglected by any means.
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I'd get a couple orange pads just to have on hand in case you need them for trouble spots. I'd then stock up on white and black (using the Lake Country colors) for most of your needs.

Both Subi and Toyota paint is pretty soft. A good polish with a DA using white pads should work for you.
 
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