Of these 5 choices, which ceramic drying aid / topper would you choose?

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On my family's three cars, I currently have Griot's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax on two of them and Cancoat Evo on the third. I routinely do weekly rinseless washes using eitber ONR or Mckees37 N-914. I am looking for a ceramic-infused drying aid that I can use after each wash.

Up until now, I have been using Xtreme Solutions Topper and have been very happy with it. I also sometimes use TEC 582 Ceramic Detail Spray. Just to try something new, I recently ordered bottles of 3D Bead It Up, Turtle Wax Hyrbrid Solutions Wet Wax, and Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax.

My two main goals when using this drying aid are to 1) increase gloss and shine 2) increase paint protection and extend the life of the base protection product.

Just curious, of these 5 drying aids/toppers, which do you all prefer and recommend?

Thank you,
Joe
 
joebruin77 said:
On my family's three cars, I currently have Griot's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax on two of them and Cancoat Evo on the third. I routinely do weekly rinseless washes using eitber ONR or Mckees37 N-914. I am looking for a ceramic-infused drying aid that I can use after each wash.

Up until now, I have been using Xtreme Solutions Topper and have been very happy with it. I also sometimes use TEC 582 Ceramic Detail Spray. Just to try something new, I recently ordered bottles of 3D Bead It Up, Turtle Wax Hyrbrid Solutions Wet Wax, and Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax.

My two main goals when using this drying aid are to 1) increase gloss and shine 2) increase paint protection and extend the life of the base protection product.

Just curious, of these 5 drying aids/toppers, which do you all prefer and recommend?

Thank you,
Joe
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Have you considered Ech2o? I've been using that diluted 1:20 for Can Coat and it works great. Adds gloss. A bottle will go a long way. It won't leave much protection but honestly a lot of toppers don't bond long to an existing coating or underlying protection.

TEC582 is great as well.

A nice inexpensive alternative that won't leave much if any protection but is a good drying aid is Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer.

Of the ones you mentioned, TEC582 would be my choice.
 
joebruin77 said:
On my family's three cars, I currently have Griot's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax on two of them and Cancoat Evo on the third. I routinely do weekly rinseless washes using eitber ONR or Mckees37 N-914. I am looking for a ceramic-infused drying aid that I can use after each wash.

Up until now, I have been using Xtreme Solutions Topper and have been very happy with it. I also sometimes use TEC 582 Ceramic Detail Spray. Just to try something new, I recently ordered bottles of 3D Bead It Up, Turtle Wax Hyrbrid Solutions Wet Wax, and Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax.

My two main goals when using this drying aid are to 1) increase gloss and shine 2) increase paint protection and extend the life of the base protection product.

Just curious, of these 5 drying aids/toppers, which do you all prefer and recommend?

Thank you,
Joe
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I am a strong believer in synergy of product lines, especially when the idea is to maintain and fortify the main protection. That means use toppers/boosters from the same brand. Because they will be the *most compatible chemically* since that's how they were derived in the lab. Your odds are higher in favor of extended durability when following this practice (but more importantly by following the manufacturers explicit instructions on maintenance). Even though other products that may contain the word "ceramic" or "sio2" or "silica" have a similar chemical makeup, they are all NOT created equal.

I would use Griots Ceramic Speed Shine for your topper on the vehicles with Griots 3-in-1.

For Cancoat Evo, that's a little more tricky. From what I can tell from others, Cancoat Evo exhibits the best water behavior with NO TOPPERS. That's because it alters the hydrophobic characteristics. If I recall correctly The Guz (aka Mike G) stated that even Gyeon Ceramic Detailer was not a good choice for a topper (though I may be wrong about this).

You may certainly apply other brand toppers if you desire as it won't be the end of the world. Some may even do just fine. It really comes down to experimentation and a very close observation of the performance. It just becomes harder (impossible) to know for sure exactly what your seeing on the surface when you've got stacked layers of spray toppers on top of your main protection. Is it the topper your seeing? Is it the main layer? If you see degradation, is the degradation from the topper or the main? See where I'm going with this?
 
I love the TWHS Wet wax. This will increase gloss and shine 2) increase paint protection and extend the life of the base protection product. I have recently also used the FLEX WAX both as a drying aid and as a main wax applying it on a dry vehicle. Again, another great product.
 
Like Evo77 I think it would make sense to use the speed shine ceramic on the 3 in 1 cars as well. I actually put 2 coats of 3 in 1 on my truck this weekend, then went to autozone today and got the ceramic spped shine. Probably be 2 or 3 weeks before I try it however.
 
evo77 said:
I am a strong believer in synergy of product lines, especially when the idea is to maintain and fortify the main protection. That means use toppers/boosters from the same brand. Because they will be the *most compatible chemically* since that's how they were derived in the lab. Your odds are higher in favor of extended durability when following this practice (but more importantly by following the manufacturers explicit instructions on maintenance). Even though other products that may contain the word "ceramic" or "sio2" or "silica" have a similar chemical makeup, they are all NOT created equal.

I would use Griots Ceramic Speed Shine for your topper on the vehicles with Griots 3-in-1.

For Cancoat Evo, that's a little more tricky. From what I can tell from others, Cancoat Evo exhibits the best water behavior with NO TOPPERS. That's because it alters the hydrophobic characteristics. If I recall correctly The Guz (aka Mike G) stated that even Gyeon Ceramic Detailer was not a good choice for a topper (though I may be wrong about this).

You may certainly apply other brand toppers if you desire as it won't be the end of the world. Some may even do just fine. It really comes down to experimentation and a very close observation of the performance. It just becomes harder (impossible) to know for sure exactly what your seeing on the surface when you've got stacked layers of spray toppers on top of your main protection. Is it the topper your seeing? Is it the main layer? If you see degradation, is the degradation from the topper or the main? See where I'm going with this?
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Was not me. I have no issues with Gyeon Ceramic Detailer. I think it works just fine and notice no drastic change over any of the Gyeon coatings.
 
I like 3d bead it up, just dont spray it on the panel while the car is still wet and then dry it! Tried it on the hood of the buick one time to test out the method ive seen mike p do with it,(by spraying the panel while still wet the wiping dry)and b4 i could wipe it after spraying, it collected with the water beads and ran down the hood.

Every single bead that ran left dark streaks. They would NOT wipe off. Had to use my napatha based wax/grease remover to remove them.

Might not happen to someone else...or it might. Just puttin it out there.

Spritz on the towel first...then wipe panel.

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opie said:
I like 3d bead it up, just dont spray it on the panel while the car is still wet and then dry it! Tried it on the hood of the buick one time to test out the method ive seen mike p do with it,(by spraying the panel while still wet the wiping dry)and b4 i could wipe it after spraying, it collected with the water beads and ran down the hood.

Every single bead that ran left dark streaks. They would NOT wipe off. Had to use my napatha based wax/grease remover to remove them.

Might not happen to someone else...or it might. Just puttin it out there.

Spritz on the towel first...then wipe panel.

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I did the same thing after seeing Mike’s video on it and had the exact same problem. Terrible experience.

Not sure why Mike is leading us down the wrong path. That product is not designed to be used that way.
 
There all gonna have proponents. All seem to get good reviews.

Not a fan of TWHS products in general but WetWax is a really nice product.

I would also agree with the suggestion of using Griots Ceramic Speed Shine. If using strictly as a drying aid I would add a couple of ounces of 3-1 to up the added protection.


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I use Xtreme Solutions Topper under a different name/brand and really like it. It's easy to work with and offers great water behavior.

I would throw Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer into the mix as well.
 
I forgot about Megs HCD. That product can bead with the best of them.
 
DFB said:
I use Xtreme Solutions Topper under a different name/brand and really like it. It's easy to work with and offers great water behavior.

I would throw Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer into the mix as well.
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Hello,

Is it possible to tell which product you use that is under a different name then topper? I have used topper with great results and am curious what the product is. I also like wet wax and dream maker.
 
waterman said:
Hello,

Is it possible to tell which product you use that is under a different name then topper? I have used topper with great results and am curious what the product is. I also like wet wax and dream maker.
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As far as I know Adams Slick n Slide and Obsessed Garage Drying Aid are the same product as Topper (just different dyes and scents).

I'm sure there are many others.

I would still use XS Topper if I were you. I really enjoyed using it. Probably at or near the top of my list for best slickness and gloss.
 
Another vote for Meguiar's hybrid ceramic detailer. Easy to use, leaves a glossy smooth finish, and you can pick it up at your local auto parts store!
 
DFB said:
I use Xtreme Solutions Topper under a different name/brand and really like it. It's easy to work with and offers great water behavior.

I would throw Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer into the mix as well.
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I agree..."Topper" does what is says and is awesome
 
SNP209 said:
Another vote for Meguiar's hybrid ceramic detailer. Easy to use, leaves a glossy smooth finish, and you can pick it up at your local auto parts store!
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I like Megs HCD too. Not as slick as others but its enjoyable to use.

A little pricey if you ask me but hopefully there will be a sale again on it this fall so I can pick up a few more bottles. Last year in November, the local Walmart to me had the HCD and the Liquid HCW for FIVE BUCKS each! It was insane! I should have bought more than just two bottles.
 
evo77 said:
As far as I know Adams Slick n Slide and Obsessed Garage Drying Aid are the same product as Topper (just different dyes and scents).

I'm sure there are many others.

I would still use XS Topper if I were you. I really enjoyed using it. Probably at or near the top of my list for best slickness and gloss.
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I saw a video online where the Obsessed Garage guy said he loved Topper but was concerned about the dye staining paint on light colored cars. So he went to the company that makes Topper for Xtreme Solutions and had them make a version that is nearly identical but without the dyes and scent.

Personally, I don't think Topper stains paint. I think the OG guy removed a part on a car and found some Topper that dripped behind it.
 
Anyone still use TW seal & shine?....I picked up a bottle for $10 and just did both vehicles today....seemed very easy to use
 
Bosko said:
Anyone still use TW seal & shine?....I picked up a bottle for $10 and just did both vehicles today....seemed very easy to use
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It’s been a while since I used it. 3 years or so. I recall it being a good performer for the money. Seems to be chemical resistant especially at its price point.


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