Ok... Foam CANNONS, GPM or PSI ? for thicker foam

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Hello, I found about 20 Different threads on Autogeek and other forums but NO ONE gives the right answers...
People just Get Confused.

The Question is, When using a foam Cannon, What is needed for the best Foam?

High PSI? High GPM?

How much would be the "Good rate" ? I've seen people saying 2000 psi + is enough, some saying more, some saying less...

There are many experts here, I am sure someone here knows the answer!

Have a great weekend!!
 
( Side note, I am thinking of buying a 2800 PSI Karcher washer. )

Is it possible that this Karcher ( that costs about 600$ - 700$ ) is 2800 PSI and only something like 2.5GPM ???? Is that ok ?

and I am asking this because I could buy a:

2800 Psi + 2.45GPM

OR

2350 PSI + 2.65GPM ( 25% Cheaper )

What would be better ?
 
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From what I've read you should stick to under 2600 psi and under 2.5 gpm

sasson said:
( Side note, I am thinking of buying a 2800 PSI Karcher washer. )

Is it possible that this Karcher ( that costs about 600$ - 700$ ) is 2800 PSI and only something like 2.5GPM ???? Is that ok ?

and I am asking this because I could buy a:

2800 Psi + 2.45GPM

OR

2350 PSI + 2.65GPM ( 25% Cheaper )

What would be better ?
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Go with Higher psi in this case in my opinion, although both matter.
 
ihaveacamaro said:
Both machines are compatible with the mtm hydro btw
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Great thanks!
I will go with the 2800 One.

I am thinking of buying the Autogeek Hp cannon because of the fitting, there is a special one just for Karcher ( even 2 ).

I don't really know if I could fit MTM to Karcher ( I might, But I am not sure, and I don't Live in the U.S so I can't take risks =/ )

Do you know anything about that ?

Thank you! So much help! :dblthumb2::dblthumb2:
 
From what I've gathered, basically, a consumer grade electric pressure washer($100-$200) will never produce the same suds/viscosity that a gas powered one will. You can find commercial grade electrics for a pretty penny that produce the same (ballpark of) specs you'd need but you could do the same with a gas powered for $3-500 less.

Apparently the MTM Hydro lists operating paramaters of 2.0-5.3 GPM and no more than 5000 PSI, with a minimum I believe of 1800, though I can't find that anywhere currently, we can assume 2000 to be safe though.
 
sasson said:
Hello, I found about 20 Different threads on Autogeek and other forums but NO ONE gives the right answers...
People just Get Confused.

The Question is, When using a foam Cannon, What is needed for the best Foam?

High PSI? High GPM?

How much would be the "Good rate" ? I've seen people saying 2000 psi + is enough, some saying more, some saying less...

There are many experts here, I am sure someone here knows the answer!

Have a great weekend!!
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My buddy has a 1700psi 1.5 gpm and he can make enough foam to clean the car well... same water source my 3000psi 2.8 gpm produces a lot more foam... car gets clean with either one.... if you have a pressure washer 1500psi and 1.4gpm and higher and you cant produce good foam go to the hardware store and get a ph test kit see what your ph level is. I have used some well water that even with citrus wash and gloss "ph nutralizer" that couldent produce foam ph was just too high...
If you dont have a softener at your house or your garden hoses arent hooked up post softener and you find high ph to be the issue I reccommend if you want good foam and more importantly you dont want to worry about water spots check out portable RV water softener units.


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dooyaunastan said:
From what I've gathered, basically, a consumer grade electric pressure washer($100-$200) will never produce the same suds/viscosity that a gas powered one will. You can find commercial grade electrics for a pretty penny that produce the same (ballpark of) specs you'd need but you could do the same with a gas powered for $3-500 less.

Apparently the MTM Hydro lists operating paramaters of 2.0-5.3 GPM and no more than 5000 PSI, with a minimum I believe of 1800, though I can't find that anywhere currently, we can assume 2000 to be safe though.
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Would a MTM fit to a Karcher Electric washer?
I know the HP foam cannon has a special fitting just for Karcher washers...
MTM doesn't say anything about fitting to a washer... ( weird )
 
Calibmw23 said:
From what I've read you should stick to under 2600 psi and under 2.5 gpm
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Mtm rates there foam cannon for 4000psi not sure what all the rest are rated for but I wouldent worry foam wise about staying under any given psi except staying under the max rated psi

Sent from my SGH-T889 using AG Online
 
I have the electric Karcher (Model K5.740) and the AG cannon. It is rated at 2000 PSI and 1.4 gpm and I have enough suds to make a show (using Mr. Pink). I also use it with Dawn to strip LSP and even with Dawn I am producing a nice enough sud for dwell time.

Happy as a lark
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evFTeRxtEEo]The Perfct Wash with The Perfect Soap Garry Dean Wash Method Tampa, FL Infinite Use Detail Juice High end detailing Premium Custom Detailing traditional wash 2bm two bucket method proper car wash karcher pressure washer microfiber - YouTube[/video] Garry Dean use a foam cannon and a KARCHER
 
don't get the AG one, the MTM one does the same at the fraction of the price. And MTM will fit on Karcher.
 
AG one with a coupon + 20% and free shipping including the Karcher connector...... hmmmmm it was cheaper than the MTM hydro at the time. :dblthumb2:

I am sure we will see a nice discount for Easter Im the MAN
 
I just got all the stuff I needed to make my foam cannon work.

I have the:
AR Blue Clean AR383 1,900 PSI 1.5 gpm
Briggs and Stratton 1/4 x 25' Hose
Briggs and Stratton Gun
MTM Foam Cannon
Powerwasher 80006 Quick Connect Kit
^^^ Bought Online

Powerwasher 80006 Quick Connect Kit
1/4" Quick Connect tips set from Home Depot
Quick Connect Extension Wand
^^^ Bought local
You need all of this in order to make the AR Blue Clean work because of the hose and adapters that it comes with. Sure I could have paid $100 more and gotten a gas model but I have very little noise, no gas, no oil, no exhaust, and it stays ready to be used.

It all works great for its use. The extension wand makes it a bit of a pain since its so long but it works. I need to find an adapter or something to make it work without the wand. Its not super thick foam but I like it. I also don't have any basis of comparison so it seems to be good.

Soap used in this picture is Chemical Guys Honeydew.
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you dont want to worry about water spots check out portable RV water softener units.
 
Karcher K 2.60 ($130 @ Walmart) 1600psi 1.25gpm * MTM Hydro

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Some run off from Bilt Hamber Snow Foam. It smells bad but cleans good

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The last one is real snow. Just making sure your paying attention. I have an inexpensive low output pressure washer and it works pretty good.
 
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