Old Lacquer & #7, Polish? Wax?

[sloan66]

I have Black lacquer which over 30 years old, and I have done the following based of an article from Mike.


1. Washed car correctly
2. Clayed
3. Soaking coats of Meguiars #7


I have bought Dodo Blue Velvet to apply, but I watched a video yesterday where Mike polished a car with Mequires Ultimate prior to applying the #7, was that because the paint was in good condition? He also did not allow the #7 to sit overnight, so again I assume the paint was in better shape than mine.


So do I need to polish before wax? Do I go straight to wax after #7? Tried to attach picture, you can see my car in the Introduce yourself under "Newbie from Tennessee"

 

[tuscarora dave]

You might gather a little insight from this old hidden gem of a thread I posted some time ago. Cool GTO by the way and welcome to the site.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-some-before-photos-my-current-nightmare.html

 

[tuscarora dave]

So do I need to polish before wax? Do I go straight to wax after #7?

How do you feel about the finish on your GTO? sounds like you might do a little testing starting with something not very aggressive. Maybe a machine applied coat of #7 with a polish pad to see how it shines the paint up.?..

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

I have Black lacquer which over 30 years old, and I have done the following based of an article from Mike.


1. Washed car correctly
2. Clayed
3. Soaking coats of Meguiars #7


I have bought Dodo Blue Velvet to apply, but I watched a video yesterday where Mike polished a car with Mequires Ultimate prior to applying the #7, was that because the paint was in good condition?

Yes.

There's two ways to use #7

1. To revitalize neglected antique paint BEFORE working on it. (working meaning abrading it with a compound or polish)

2. Gorge the paint with the unique feeder oils after doing the correction work to bring out the full richness of color.

He also did not allow the #7 to sit overnight, so again I assume the paint was in better shape than mine.

Correct.

So do I need to polish before wax?

If there are paint defects like swirls, scratches, water spots that you want to remove then compound and polish or just polish.

If you're happy with how the paint looks or you fear it's incredibly thin then either LIGHT polish and wax or go straight to wax.

Do I go straight to wax after #7?

See answer above but "yes" after rubbing down a single stage paint with #7 you can then apply wax.

Tried to attach picture, you can see my car in the Introduce yourself under "Newbie from Tennessee"

You uploaded a .png file to your gallery. Do you have any pictures that end with the file extension .jpg


Nice car!


:dblthumb2:

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Here you go...

From the appearance, this is single stage paint in GREAT shape so you would use the #7 after any compounding or polishing but before applying a wax.

Nice car!


:dblthumb2:

 

[sloan66]

Thanks to everyone for their input, and Mike for getting my picture to load. I bought this car in 1979 and that is the paint that was on it! Back in the day I used a product TR-3, had no clue what I was doing, but remember it seemed aggressive. I will take some pictures this weekend after I rub out the #7, so far I have placed two treatments. I think the front fender shows the swirls pretty good.

 

[sloan66]

Well applied the wax here are some reflection pics. Still a little haze but I am not sure how thick paint is, so I am reluctant to get to aggressive.

 

[AZ Mike]

Nice Car.

 

[Coppertop80]

Well applied the wax here are some reflection pics. Still a little haze but I am not sure how thick paint is, so I am reluctant to get to aggressive.

I know the feeling, I've had my Z28 since I was 16 and It's been my test vehicle for too many years and I know the paint is now O two thin... Hopefully #7 will do the trick for my car as well. (If I can still find it in Canada).

 

[Zubair]

You can use Deep Crystal Step 2 Polish too, same as #7. They look better than any PB/CG glaze.Can't beat Meguiars Trade Secret oils thats for sure.

 

[Coppertop80]

It's funny that I can't even find the Deep Crystal step 2 anymore.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Thanks to everyone for their input, and Mike for getting my picture to load.

No problemo... pictures are Simple Simon once you take the time to figure out what the Internet likes and what forums like.

I bought this car in 1979 and that is the paint that was on it!

Good job hanging on to her for all these years...

Back in the day I used a product TR-3, had no clue what I was doing, but remember it seemed aggressive.

The product is called,

TR3 Resin Glaze


I have a can of it here in my office. It's you're basic, consumer-level one-step cleaner wax only technically it's a cleaner/sealant. Same idea as a cleaner/wax just no actual wax.

Heavy on the solvents and if you applied it to your car's black paint today it would dull down the finish.

It's funny that I can't even find the Deep Crystal step 2 anymore.

It was discontinued...

I think I have 3 generations of the evolution of the Deep Crystal Line from over the years in my Megs collection. And you're right, Deep Crystal Polish was the consumer version of #7.

 

[Zubair]

We still get the DC2 here in SA.