Orange Peel Removal via wet sanding 2009 Yukon Denali- Black

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It s funny how there is no endpoint to this Detailing thing

Since purchasing a black car, I have spent thousands and accumulated 6 large totes of machines and supplies.

I polished my 2009 GMC Yukon Denali to what I though was perfection

Then I discovered Orange Peel. What had never bothered me before was now all that I could see!

This is OEM paint, but the PTG told me that I had between 5 and 5.6 mil all over the vehicle

I read a lot and decided to experiment with the CarPro Denim pads on my FLEX 3401. I got very good results. I was emboldened to attack some of the smaller areas that the Denim pads could not reach with wet sanding.


My main area of concern is the tailgate, which is one of the "Show Panels" on a truck this size, because it is very flat, very large and the 1st thing you see when approaching when it is parked nose-in.


Tools:

Meguiar's Unigrit Papers 1500 & 2000
Meguiar's Sanding Pad
3M 233+ Tape
Water in sprayer with few drops of soap
Meguiar's M105
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze
Lake Country CCS
Orange
White
Blue
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
Porter Cable 7424


I hit it with 1500 until there were no visible valleys, followed by 2000, compounded with M105 on Orange CCS on my old PC

The pictures pretty much tell the story

The thing I heard, but didn't remember is that you have to be able to compound the sanding scratches out of everywhere you sand. It sounds simple, but you are tempted to sand every little detailed area, some of these spots end up being impossible to reach with a 3" machine polisher and have to be compounded by hand


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Very nice job. It looks like glass.

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Awesome job! Love black yukons and tahoes. Big, heavy and drive awesome going down the interstate, and they can pull just about whatever you want. Paint looks great!
What motor?
 
If it's a Denali it should be the 6.2L. Thing looks great.

I'll be corrected ting my wife's new (to us) 2007 Yukon that's black.Ii can't wait!
 
Man that's nice! I need to learn how to take those back wipers off. Would make my life much easier!
 
That came out really nice, I hope you have some clear left.

PS Shouldn't you have CA plates since you live in CA? Most states give you 30 days after you move to register the vehicle at your new address.
 
That came out really nice, I hope you have some clear left.

PS Shouldn't you have CA plates since you live in CA? Most states give you 30 days after you move to register the vehicle at your new address.

Plenty of clear left. Removed .3 mils. Should have included that in the original post.

Plates...I am a well documented Law Breaker
 
I've seen this vehicle numerous times. I've even seen it under the Evil Meguiar's Garage lights.

Mike Stoops told Kyle (something a long the lines of) "Maybe you should be instructing some detailing classes here" When we were at TNOG and it was a straight forward compliment, because the paint does look great. I think they even measured it using the PTG's that Meguiar's uses. (don't remember the readings)

So not only are the pictures taken by using a cell phone, (Don't know if he bought the cell phone in Texas :dunno: ) :D and they look awesome with the pictures he posted up using his cell phone.

The paint looks just as awesome in direct sunlight and even under the evil Meguiar's Garage lights.

I don't know how Kyle does it, but his car always looks show car ready. Always clean and never swirled. Nada... and now no orange peel.

Props Kyle! :props:
 
First....

Results look AWESOME! Nice work their bud.... :dblthumb2:



The thing I heard, but didn't remember is that you have to be able to compound the sanding scratches out of everywhere you sand.

The above is something I teach others, especially if they are new to wetsanding. The idea is you don't want to sand where you can't safely reach with your buffing pad to remove the sanding marks.

Here's my article on that topic,

The Rule of Thumb

Nifty little picture to go with the article,

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Now days with the compounds on the market like Uber Compound, M105 or even Ultimate Compound you CAN sand close to edges if you don't mind removing your sanding marks by hand.

It's still a good idea to use some 3M Blue Vinyl Tape to protect the edges.

On the recent 1932 Deuce Coupe I detailed I had to go back in and remove sanding marks close to the edges for this same reason. (The "OTHER GUY" didn't buff them out)

Little Deuce Coupe - Hotrod Detailing

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Another option is to in the words of Steve Martin....

Get small



Autogeek carries 4" wool buffing pads that work great on the Flex PE14 for buffing along edges or doing what I call edging....

Pictures: The Art of Polishing Paint Advanced Detailing Classes

Post #9
After my guys sanded the hood of this 1959 Impala, next the edged it....


Mike Phillips said:
Edging
Now the guys are using 3" wool pads with Meguiar's M100 Pro Speed Compound to surgically remove their sanding marks around the perimeter of the panel. I call this edging.

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After edging the panel then they tackled the easy to buff major flat areas....

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It sounds simple, but you are tempted to sand every little detailed area, some of these spots end up being impossible to reach with a 3" machine polisher and have to be compounded by hand


Yep.... sanding more and more... right up to the edges is always a temptation for perfectionist.... I have an article on this too....


Perfectionist Detailing #2 - Sanding right up to an edge


The word is balance....


But very nice work their Allen....


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Great work on the Denali! Those with black DD have to be very impressed.

You commented on how thick of paint you had to work with. How did you determine the thickness?
 
Sorry if I missed it - did you wetsand the whole car or just the "shine" panels?

Great work, really makes me want to wetsand a few of the bad panels on my car. Did you use a sanding block or just hand w/ even pressure.


Talk about a FLAWLESS paint job!
 
Wow, looks great! I wish I would have not came across this topic. I have black Chevy pickuo that I need to get ready for winter, but it has been a long time since I have wet sanded and would want to do the whole truck once I got started. :dblthumb2:
 
Mike Phillips- thanks for the great contribution to the thread

Art- thanks for the compliment. Those lights at Meguiar's have caused many a tear to be shed

Chase- I removed the OP from all of the other vertical panels of the truck using the CarPro Denim Pads with M100 & my FLEX 3401

The hood does not have noticeable OP and it is half an acre, so it was left alone

I used the Meguiar's foam block. Buy two and use one to wipe away reside when inspecting your work...speeds things up

Ford Fest- I used digital paint thickness gauge at Meguiar's Thursday Night Open Garage

6.2L Catback exhaust, Volant CAI and Black Bear in-person Tune
- Exhaust made it sound great
- CAI did nothing
- Tune was the best $250 I ever spent on a car
 
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