overkill for buffer? ---} newb here

[master_photog]

Got a question and need a recommendation from you FLEX pros.

I'm an extreme novice to using a buffer/polisher but now have more of a few good reasons to go this direction. This will certainly not be used in a professional environment, but I've been approached multiple times by people that see how I keep my cars and boats in pristine condition and have wanted me to work on their stuff (mostly their boats).

I've taken on a couple jobs on some pretty good sized boats that have taken me most of a weekend to complete. So, in the future when I'm asked to wash/strip/wax a friend's boat, I'd like to be able to do it a little quicker and spend a little more of my weekend time on the water. I know it's mostly my fault for the commitment, but I kinda enjoy it.

Anyway - there have been a couple times where there have been some problem areas that I just can't get by hand and would love to have the right tool! More times than not, these are small oxidation problems or some bird poop/bug guts from the trip down on the road (on trailer). Unfortunately, they've let the bug guts/bird poop fester too long and now their boat looks like a POS.

So, I'd like to have a little more 'HorsePower' in my arsenal and wondered if I'm outta my league by getting the FLEX L3403 VRG? I viewed the video by Mike Phillips and it appears that a small 2 3/4 backing plate can be used with this that will accommodate a 3" pad. This just seems (from what I've read) that it's a pretty versatile machine and would certainly do the trick on some of the things that I can't handle by hand. I know there is a learning curve with the 3403 and it's probably not a good idea for a novice to start out with a rotary. This is what I'm wanting from the pros, can a novice start out with the FLEX 3403. I've read a lot that the 3403 is a very nice unit to step into after using a DA. Well, I'd like to alleviate having to purchase a DA THEN purchase a rotary if I can avoid it.

Thanks for the input and/or recommendations!!

Chuck in INDY

 

[WindyCity]

I dont have a FLEX but i can tell you that you are killing yourself for nothing by doing anything by hand EXCEPT applying wax...Save yourself my friend and get a machine! Any buffer has a small learning curve, but when you get the feel of it you will regret doing anything by hand!.....Especially on a boat!

The flex would be a great stand alone buffer IMO

 

[2old2change]

If you would like to try out a flex 3403 or the Makita 9227 , you are welcome to a hands on trial with mine. I'm out off of Raceway Rd. and Rockville Rd.

 

[5.4 Shelby]

Dont underestimate the power and utility of the DA polishers either. Sure the rotaries will correct faster, but, at higher risk of damage. The Flex 3401 is a powerful machine as is the Griots Garage 6 in.

Griot has a distribution center out just past the airport in Plainfield. They have tech session a couple of times a year and could help you if you have a problem. Of course 2 old or others near you may be more help than they would be. You are more than welcome to give either of mine a whirl. Only problem is I am about an hour away.

 

[master_photog]

Dang, you're not far at all!! Sounds good, I assume since you have these, this is your profession. Picking your brain would be ideal for me to get an idea on what would work best for me.

Thanks!!

If you would like to try out a flex 3403 or the Makita 9227 , you are welcome to a hands on trial with mine. I'm out off of Raceway Rd. and Rockville Rd.

 

[master_photog]

YES, the 'damage' is what I fear most! Damaging my boat or auto would not be good and damaging some else's ride would be WORSE!

This is mainly my concern - how easy or hard is it to do the damage? Do you really have to get into it and just hammer away in one area? Or can damage start by simply not knowing the technique. In other words, do you have to be totally blatant, neglectful or intentional to start causing damage OR can damage start by a simple error or mistake in improper technique/use of the tool?

Thanks for clarification in my attempt to ask about damage incurred.

chuck

Dont underestimate the power and utility of the DA polishers either. Sure the rotaries will correct faster, but, at higher risk of damage. The Flex 3401 is a powerful machine as is the Griots Garage 6 in.

Griot has a distribution center out just past the airport in Plainfield. They have tech session a couple of times a year and could help you if you have a problem. Of course 2 old or others near you may be more help than they would be. You are more than welcome to give either of mine a whirl. Only problem is I am about an hour away.

 

[2old2change]

Starting out with a rotary would not be my first choice. The rotary is popular with the boating community which I think is due to the large area to be polished on most craft. I have random orbital machines also with the same offer. I have done this as a hobby since 05 or so and now having retired from trucking I'm starting up my own appointment only detailing service.
Paul S

 

[5.4 Shelby]

YES, the 'damage' is what I fear most! Damaging my boat or auto would not be good and damaging some else's ride would be WORSE!

This is mainly my concern - how easy or hard is it to do the damage? Do you really have to get into it and just hammer away in one area? Or can damage start by simply not knowing the technique. In other words, do you have to be totally blatant, neglectful or intentional to start causing damage OR can damage start by a simple error or mistake in improper technique/use of the tool?

Thanks for clarification in my attempt to ask about damage incurred.

chuck

I know I esponded to your PM, but, wanted to complete the thought for others who read this thread.

I would recommend the Griots Garage 6in as a starter machine. It will handle most jobs and up to 6.5 in pads. IT is affordable and versatile. IT comes with a lifetime warranty and If you buy it from Autogeek or Griots, either will support you well.

The Flex 3401 is a fantastic machine. Very smooth and powerful. The variable speed trigger is a real nice feature. In my opinion, it is a little harder to use at it tends to want to walk a little. I have not had mine long and may change that stance once I have used it more.

I have not dived into the rotray world yet for the same reasons you are hesitant. I hvae been polishing for about 12 years now. I can get the job done with DA polishers without the fear of damage. I am sure I could learn rotary, but, dont really need to.

Sounds like Paul (2old2change) is closer and can give you insight and practice with a rotary. If not, again you are welcome to contact me and try my machines.

If you do eventually buy a rotary, it is nice to have a DA around for finishing, Megs MF DA system and wax application.