Pad Washer compairson

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Which is better?
the
Autogeek System 2000 Pad Washer for Rotary Polishers
or
Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer

Both are the same price so that eliminates that variable. From what I can see by the pics, guts are a different design. The AG 2000 uses the same agitator wheels used on the Duo Spur tool and a bigger wheel with holes in it to bring the water up to the pad. The Grit Guard uses basically a grit guard insert hooked to a spring loaded mount. The info says it squirts water up to the pad but aren’t you really pushing the spring loaded grit guard down into the water? Both are in a 5gal bucket with a lid. Does one work better, does one clean better, does one last longer, is one gentler on the pads? I want one but which one is the question.
 
Maybe buy both Ron and do a review! Whichever one you dislike, I'll take it off yur hands. I really need to bite this bullet too.
 
I think the Grit Guard would be a better choice. I love mine and does a good job cleaning pads with no effort.

The system 2000 seems to only work with pads 5" or higher. Other than that it would be too small to spin the spurs and have the water rise up to the pad. So this would be also a disadvantage to people who own the cyclo.
 
I have the Grit Guard version and it works really well. When you push the pad against the grit guard, it pushes it down and at the same time water is squirted up and into the pad. The Grit Guard version also has a o-ring sealed lid that can be put into place for transporting. I have no idea if AutoGeeks has that.

I've read elsewhere that the AG version is harder on pads due to the spurs, but I have no hands on experience so I'll leave it at that. I would imagine you can't go wrong with either one. Just make sure you get one or the other. You'll never look back.

Colin
 
We have the GG one that we got as a demo and love it! Haven't seen or tried the AG one but im sure its just as good.
 
I guess it really depends on what machine you are using. If you had a DA I think the GG would be better suited. The modified grit guard with its small chambers help to remove the product better with the small osculation and rotation of the DA. If you have a rotary then the system 2000 would seem better choice because the direct rotation of the rotary will move along with the spurs and not against it.

I dont like the idea of something like using a rotary with the GG system because of the fact that the circular rotation of the pad is basically getting pressed against a stationary grate. This could create excess heat and slightly melt or deform the GG after repeated uses.
 
Lasthope05 said:
I guess it really depends on what machine you are using. If you had a DA I think the GG would be better suited. The modified grit guard with its small chambers help to remove the product better with the small osculation and rotation of the DA. If you have a rotary then the system 2000 would seem better choice because the direct rotation of the rotary will move along with the spurs and not against it.

I dont like the idea of something like using a rotary with the GG system because of the fact that the circular rotation of the pad is basically getting pressed against a stationary grate. This could create excess heat and slightly melt or deform the GG after repeated uses.
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very valid point but we use it with a D.A. and a rotary......no problems so far.....u just put the machine on the lowest possible speed and than work it
 
I bought the GG model and am quite pleased with it although it doesn't seem to clean the outside inch or so of the pad as well I expected it to.
 
Lasthope05 said:
I dont like the idea of something like using a rotary with the GG system because of the fact that the circular rotation of the pad is basically getting pressed against a stationary grate. This could create excess heat and slightly melt or deform the GG after repeated uses.
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With the GG pad washer you can control how much water can be delivered to the pad, and this would cool down the GG. So I dont think heat is a big issue. Also the GG is really durable plastic and can be found any Detailing store if you need to replacement.
 
thanks for the replys so far. A few more questions. What is the best cleaning solution? Does DP Polishing Pad Rejuvenator cleaning soultion stay desolved in the water after a period of storage (1 week)? Does the used polish seperate and settle to the bottom. Do the pads need to be rinsed with clean (no solution) water after washing?

Thanks
 
ron.logan said:
The Grit Guard uses basically a grit guard insert hooked to a spring loaded mount.

The info says it squirts water up to the pad but aren’t you really pushing the spring loaded grit guard down into the water?
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No. the four things that look like upside down cups are spring loaded pumps, when you push down on the Grit Guard insert they pump water up into your pad.

Here's a cutaway view from the GritGuard.com website. There's a series of 4 spring loaded water pumps that pump water into the pad, wool or foam and flush out any residue as the pad spins over the grit guard grill.



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There's a series of 4 spring loaded water pumps that pump water into the pad, wool or foam and flush out any residue as the pad spins over the grit guard grill.


I posted the below yesterday to this thread,

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ne-product-you-couldn-t-detail-without-2.html


If I was working full time in a body shop wet-sanding, cutting and buffing fresh paint I would go with the System 2000 as I think it it's built-in spur helps clean and fluff wool cutting pads when predominately using a rotary buffer.


System 2000 Pad Washer

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Built-in spurs help to fluff fibers of a wool pad which also enable spent buffing residue to rinse out.
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If I were working full-time as a detailer I would go with the Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer as I think it works well for wool pads but works better for cleaning foam pads with any kind of tool.


Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer

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I have both.


The S2000 is best for wool pads.

The UPW is best for foam pads, the S2000 can have a hard time cleaning the center of the pad on foam, and doesn't work well on the smaller pad sizes either.



I think most of use here use foam pads more than wool so IMO the UPW is your best bet, but I still like having both.


Be sure to clean them out often though. :props:
 
Do you mix it with the water in the bucket or spray it directly on the pad and use the GG with clean water?:confused:
 
The Grit-Guard version seems to work so well.

My Question... would it be a good idea to have a cheapo 20 Dollar plain ol' Orbital with a Velcro Backing pad on it, just for Pad-Washing Purposes ?

Does a Dual-Action type of Buffer do a good Job when washing Pads in this Pail... or is it better done with an Orbital instead ?

Does a Dual-Action Buffer shake the Pail up a lot when using it in the Grit-Guard Pad-Washer ?
 
From the videos on Youtube, the System 2000 is for rotary polisher only, and really seems only best for wool pads at that.The design of the wheels inside the cleaner only spin one way. That means that only a circular polisher will work without tearing up the pads. An orbital would put force perpendicular to the rotation of the cleaning wheels, and thus tear up the pads on them. The GG seems to do both rotary and orbital. Obviously, if you have a orbital, the GG is your only choice.
 
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2003 GMC Denali said:
The Grit-Guard version seems to work so well.

My Question... would it be a good idea to have a cheapo 20 Dollar plain ol' Orbital with a Velcro Backing pad on it, just for Pad-Washing Purposes ? Dont think so I dont have any ill affects on our backing plate after 2 years of using it

Does a Dual-Action type of Buffer do a good Job when washing Pads in this Pail... or is it better done with an Orbital instead ? Both work great the D.A. I think works a tad bit better JMO tho........ its a little bit easier to control cuz its just giggling in there the rotary can grab at times, although I do find myself always grabbing for the rotary when im washing

Does a Dual-Action Buffer shake the Pail up a lot when using it in the Grit-Guard Pad-Washer ? Not at all 4 gal of water is no match for the D.A. its solid
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-Chirs :dblthumb2:
 
2003 GMC Denali said:
My Question... would it be a good idea to have a cheapo 20 Dollar plain ol' Orbital with a Velcro Backing pad on it, just for Pad-Washing Purposes ?
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Do you mean a,

cheapo 20 dollar plain ol ROTARY buffer?

That is a direct drive polisher that will rotate a pad?

There's lots of cheapie orbital polishers but they won't work well for rotating a pad in a pad washer.

If you meant a cheapie rotary buffer then the answer is "Yes", in fact I've been sharing this idea with people from probably a decade or longer...

That is buy a cheapie rotary buffer not as a rotary buffer but as a tool to use to clean your buffing pads.

:)
 
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