Pictures: 2018 Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek with Mike Phillips

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Pictures: 2018 Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek with Mike Phillips


This thread is for the before and after pictures for our 2018 Boat Detailing Class.



Here's the 21' Trophy

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Dialing in my Test Spot for the Saturday/Sunday Boat Detailing Class.

This is for the 21' Trophy - probably the WORST condition boat we've ever used for a class.



This is the new SCANGRIP Colormatch light - lighting up the side of the hull

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That's ugly....

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Final Results

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This is going to be a great class and the rest of the boat will look exactly like my Test Spot.



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Here's the 28' Rinker

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Here's the results from my Test Spot on the 28' Rinker


Before

Note the ghosting effect caused by the vinyl graphics. In my experience, you cannot remove the ghosting effect 100% but you can get it good enough that you don't see it without these high powered lights I'm using to light up the side of the hull.

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After

The ghosting is removed about 95% and this is after 4 separate sanding steps.

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Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

:wow: Hey Mike,

Man that’s beat up like Kiwis beat up boats. An educated guess & I’d say on average 85% of all trailered boats here in NZ are in this condition. We seem to be a reactive nation more so than proactive.

That’s a superb canvas for your class to learn/work on Mike, & although I don’t do a lot of boats but I would love to be a part of this class sometime. Thoroughly enjoy reading your How To Detail Boats book & pick up more tips & tricks every time I read it. Certainly changed my approach when detailing boats. :props:

I’m digging the test spot . . . Exciting. :wow:

Enjoy the class everyone, I look forward to the pictures of progress & of course the finished results.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:
 
Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

Mike, I'm really looking forward to the class this weekend. I assume you wet sanded this boat with a couple of different grits, then possibly used Marine 31 captains one step compound and polish with a wool pad. Is this correct?

Jeff
 
Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

Hi Mike,
It looks great, will it be ready by the time I get there? LOL
Just kidding, looking forward to learning new techniques
 
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Here's the class of 2018!

I've included the full shot with the 21' Trophy in the shot and then I cropped out a section of just the student and myself. Anyone that wants the full size original picture of themselves just shoot me an e-mail and I'm happy to send it to you.

[email protected]


Lindsey

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Jeremy

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Morgan

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Roger

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Konner

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Mark

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James

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Ron

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David

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Shawn

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Andre

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Johnny

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Carlo

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Dan

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Andrew

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David

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Joshua

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Chad

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Michael

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Robert

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Michael, Robert, me and Chad

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Andre aka Dre!

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Jeffrey

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Group shot from the Saturday class!

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Book signing after the Saturday class...

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Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

Mike,
Just to let you know that I am following this thread. I will be getting 4 boats coming spring and I need all the help I can get to do the job properly.

Tom
 
Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

“Nobody cares about how much you know until they know how much you care”

Great quote!
 
Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

You think thats bad you should see the condition of some of the boats at my buddies "Yacht club". One of them is actually pink/borderline red. It used to be White. He got mad because I called it a "Boat Yard" and not a "Yacht club". The place is a dump. The water is polluted and there isn't even 1 Yacht in the whole place.

I went down there to help detail his boat. I brought my Flex 3401 and a bunch of cutting pads. I had never worked on a boat I figured how hard could it be. The flex and microfiber cutting pad with compound barely made a dent in it. I had to do each section 3 times to get through all the crud and it was killing the pads. Needless to say I only got one 6' x 2' foot section done all day.

The rest of the boat still looks like crap. I told him If we go back I want to use a rotary on it to cut through all the crud. He's scared of it so It's not getting done. He'll have to hire someone. It's way to much work to have to help someone do it for free. Especially when they don't even help.


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Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

This is a must class for anyone that details boats in any way.

There were many seasoned boat detailers in this last class. I can personally testify that all of them were amazed and angry.


Amazed at learning how simple it can really be with the right products and tools.

Angry because of all the money they have been missing out on because of lack of knowledge.


I took this class to be able to offer more to my future customers.


Great class Mike.


If you have been thinking about taking this class do it. You will not regret it.


:dblthumb2:
 
Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

This is a must class for anyone that details boats in any way.

There were many seasoned boat detailers in this last class. I can personally testify that all of them were amazed and angry.


Amazed at learning how simple it can really be with the right products and tools.

Angry because of all the money they have been missing out on because of lack of knowledge.


I took this class to be able to offer more to my future customers.


Great class Mike.


If you have been thinking about taking this class do it. You will not regret it.


:dblthumb2:

I may need your advise/input in the coming months re boats.

Hope you chime in here at forum to help me out!!

Good to hear that the class was helpful!

Tom
 
Question. Ive been waiting to see the pictures of the 2018 class and the after pictures but cant seem to find them.
Is there another thread? or are they not up yet?
 
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People learn by doing, not sitting I a chair -Mike Phillips

I promise all my classes are the MOST hands-on detailing classes on Planet Earth and I keep my promise.

A technique I learned from Jason Rose was to start the class by asking each person why they were attending the class and what they were looking to get out of the class. I have horrible hand writing but I did take these pictures to show what I learned from the students. At the end of the class we review each topic and the goal is I will have covered everything.

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After asking each student why they are hear and what they want to take-away from the class, next we go over a brief Power Point Presentation that included safety followed by hand wetsanding and machine wet sanding techniques, there's no more sitting in this class, in fact this first session was the end of butt-time. Now it's time to get up and start learning. Now it's time to get out of your chairs and start burning off the donuts!

First a demonstration on how to wetsand by hand followed by wetsanding by machine. In all my classes I teach the concept that most only talk about and that is,

"How to work smarter instead of harder"

Detailing boats starts with the brain, not the buffer -Mike Phillips

I told everyone I would show them the FASTEST way to buff out a boat from start to finish and when I say a "boat" I mean a boat in wasted condition. Because if you can bring back a boat that most people would say is past the point of no return you can bring back ANY boat. That's because the process I show is complete. We start with the worst condition and advance the condition to like-new. By using this approach, no matter what condition a boat is in --> you will know where to start in the process to bring it back to life.



After showing everyone how to wetsand by hand and then wetsand by machine using the BEAST aka the FLEX 3401 and let everyone choose their weapon of choice, notice no one is working by hand everyone is machine sanding using the FLEX 3401 8mm gear-driven orbital polisher.

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Don't forget how these boats looked before the class started....


The 28" Rinker

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The 21' Trophy

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W-a-s-t-e-d....


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Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

Read This!

For those of you who want to get your detailing skills to the next level, this class is for you! Not only will you figure out what the process is and the different combinations of the tools to use, you can also meet and network with other people in the detailing industry!

I really enjoyed this class, "hands on" training with different polishing machines to choose from, I now have a really good idea of what products to use, we went through every inch of these boats using many different cleaners and pads and protectants, it was great!

I learned how to properly clean all the mildew from the interiors, I also performed wet sanding and final coatings!

The boats looked brand new when we were done with them - Nice job!

If you really want to step up your detailing skills, this is the best class around!

Thanks Mike and Andre ~

Mark G
Clear Choice Detailing


:)
 
Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

Read This!

For those of you who want to get your detailing skills to the next level, this class is for you! Not only will you figure out what the process is and the different combinations of the tools to use, you can also meet and network with other people in the detailing industry!

I really enjoyed this class, "hands on" training with different polishing machines to choose from, I now have a really good idea of what products to use, we went through every inch of these boats using many different cleaners and pads and protectants, it was great!

I learned how to properly clean all the mildew from the interiors, I also performed wet sanding and final coatings!

The boats looked brand new when we were done with them - Nice job!

If you really want to step up your detailing skills, this is the best class around!

Thanks Mike and Andre ~

Mark G
Clear Choice Detailing


:)



Thank you Mark for taking the time to join the forum and then sharing your experience.

That makes about 3, 4 maybe 5 people out of the 24 that took the class have taken the time to do so far.

I truly appreciate it.


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Re: Boats are here for Boat Detailing Class at Autogeek!

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Wow!

As I'm going through all the pictures taken on Saturday, there's only 2 pictures that show the rotary buffer step and there of me holding the rotary buffer after demonstrating how to use this tool to cut out sanding marks.


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That's BLUE GEL-COAT you see on the face of the wool cutting pad. I had just used a compound to remove sanding marks off the side of the hull and the results is I'm removing some gel-coat as a part of leveling the surface and the blue pigmented gel-coat is building up on the face of the pad. This is normal too. It's also why you must use a steel spur to clean your pad often as you work around the boat.

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The only other shot we have of the compounding step with a rotary buffer and a wool pad.

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Next up... removing hologram scratches left by the fibers that make up a wool pad when used on a rotary buffer.


Hologram swirls are technically hologram SCRATCHES. That's right, they are scratches in the gel-coat. It's a NORMAL defect anytime you're using a wool pad on a rotary buffer.

Note: Holograms are a specific type of scratch pattern that are SPECIFIC to a rotary buffer. They are not called swirls, or micro-marring or DA Haze or tick marks, the are holograms.


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How to remove holograms and polish gel-coat to a super clear high gloss

Here's how I show...

Tool: FLEX 3401 - This is an 8mm gear-driven orbital polisher. It's so powerful it's called the BEAST! It's perfect for removing hologram swirls out of gel-coat after the rotary buffer step.

Product: Marine 31 Captain's One-Step Compound Polish - This compound uses incredible abrasive technology. It's really the key to removing both the sanding marks and the holograms.

Pads: RUPES Blue & Green foam pads. I prefer the blue coarse pad to ensure all the holograms are removed but the green is also very aggressive in its cut. I let the students use both for experience.


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Roger using the FLEX 3401 and a green RUPES pad...

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Mark using one of 2 FLEX 3401 polishers I have in the garage without a forward handle. This is normally for cars so you can get under rear view mirrors without the handle in the way.

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Carlo using the blue RUPES pad with Captain's Compound to remove holograms...

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LOOK at the reflections in the dark blue gel-coat as the class works out all the hologram swirls to create a show car finish on a BOAT!

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Here's a reflection of the empty chairs at the tables - this is intense hands-on training, no sitting around in our classes.

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Next up.... applying a ceramic coating!



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How to apply a Ceramic Coating to a Gel-Coat Boat

Process is like applying to a car,


  1. Remove defects
  2. Chemically strip surface
  3. Apply coating
  4. Follow manufacturer's recommended waiting time
  5. Use clean microfiber towel to give coated section a final buff and remove any high spots


GTechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer and EXO
To seal the gel-coat we stripped with GTechniq Panel Wipe and the applied one application each of C1 Crystal Laquer and EXO

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Here's Mark and Jeff applying C1 to foam applicator pads...

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Here's Lindsey applying C1 to a foam applicator pad...

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Here's Roger applying the C1 to the side of the Rinker....

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Here's Mark and Lindsey coating the side of a 28' Rinker...

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This boat is coming out BEAUTIFUL!

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Here's Dan applying the C1 coating to the gel-coat finish...

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Here's Paul applying the C1 Crystal Lacquer...

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Here's Carlo applying C1 Crystal Lacquer...

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Here's Jim giving the gel-coat a final buff to remove any high spots...

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Here's Lindsey and James giving the gel-coat a final buff....

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On the other side of the garage the class is applying Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer to the 21' Trophy...

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Here's Andrew applying Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer...

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Here's Ron applying Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer....

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Here's James giving the gel-coat a gentle buff...

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The other side is getting the C1 Crystal Lacquer treatment too...


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This gel-coat started out a very white, light oxidized blue - now it's a deep, dark blue....

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Gtechniq products are all available at Autogeek.com

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On Autogeek.com

GTechniq Exterior Coatings





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Here's the after shots of the 21 Trophy...

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:)
 
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