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FredH

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Working on a Black 1991 Toyota MR2. I'm going to do a scratch/swirl/polish but first I used a rubber eraser wheel to take off what I think is a factory original pin stripe. In places it came off completely but in other areas left a bit of adhesive.

I tried an over the counter product with no results, then a 3M adhesive remover still with no results. The Carbo polish says it will remove scrathes up to 1200 so I'm thinking it will take the adhesive off, I'm also considering using 2000 sand paper and wet sand it off and then polish. I've also heard about EasyOff and am thinking of trying that also.

Can anyone offer some suggestions ? Thanks, FredH
 
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I WOULD NOT spray Easy Off on your pant ;)
 
Just polish it off durning the compounding process. Mechanical removal with abrasives is the only way it's coming off. I had a similar issue on my 88' 4runner. And polishing removed all of it.

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Thanks for the replies. I did use a wheel to erase, just not the 3M brand. It worked great on all but some of the adhesive.

I had signage painted on a van years ago and when I sold it the dealer used EasyOff to remove it. I had painted it with acrylic enamel before the signage & there was no damage. But now days, who knows.

Looks like polishing process is the best bet. Thanks.
 
conquistador said:
Just polish it off during the compounding process.

Mechanical removal with abrasives is the only way it's coming off. I
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Correct.

Anytime you have some leftover adhesive residue on the paint that won't come off with a liquid solvent, the next best SAFEST way to remove the residual residues is to simply rub them off by hand using a compound or polish that is safe to use by hand.

I recently removed some vinyl lettering with a heat gun and the removed the remaining adhesive residue using Stoner's Xenit which is a citric based solvent.

Even after the Stoner's remove most of the adhesive I still rubbed the area by hand using some Wolfgang Uber Compound to clean it up 100%.


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Carefully removing the vinyl letters using a Heat Gun...

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I just used my thumbnail to carefully scrape the softened letters off the paint and then wiped the area down using Xenit by Stoner's to remove the sticky residue.

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I think the key word is "by hand" because it's easy to get caught up in focusing on the adhesive removal with a DA and forget that as you're fighting with the adhesive removal, you're also removing clear coat all around the pin striped area and it's not hard at all to cut through the clear when concentrating in small areas attempting to remove stubborn adhesive.

I have to wonder why the 3M adhesive remover isn't working for some of the adhesive when it worked for the rest of it.

Either there's a really thick build up of adhesive that could be removed with the edge of a grocery store bonus club card or a plastic razor blade first before using the 3M adhesive remover, or you're allowing your towel to become clogged up with removed adhesive, rendering it less effective at removal.

Or if you're like me...you're thinking of an easier way because your fingers are getting all cramped up from all the rubbing.

You always need to move your towel for a clean spot over your fingers every few inches as you remove dissolved adhesive.
Just as a buffing pad will become much less effective at cutting when it becomes clogged up with spent product/abraded off paint, the adhesive removing towel will get clogged up with adhesive at a much faster rate, rendering that spot of the towel useless. You must constantly move your finger to a fresh, clean area of the towel as you remove adhesive.

Just some thoughts based on my own experience with pin stripe and adhesive removal.
 
Again, thanks for the replies. I should clarify, some of the tape came off leaving no adhesive residue while other parts left the adhesive. The 3M didn't remove any adhesive at all.
Fred
 
FredH said:
Again, thanks for the replies. I should clarify, some of the tape came off leaving no adhesive residue while other parts left the adhesive. The 3M didn't remove any adhesive at all.
Fred
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My experience is most compounds or polishes, when rubbed against this leftover residue will abrade it off, loosen it off and mix with it enough to dissolve it off.

That plus your fingers pushing some type of towel or applicator over it to agitate.



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Pin Stripe Update: Crap !

Polished today with Porter Cable, Orange Lake pad, and Carbondum compound. 24 year old paint looks pretty good, given there is a number of defects that polishing won't help.

At to the pin stripe adhesive it looks the same now as when I erased the tape to begin with. The polished did nothing to remove the leftover adhesive, and I'm concerned about doing more.

Guess I'll be buying new pin stripe.
 
View attachment 25521I had similar problems removing old pinstripe from my 2001 Kia Spectra last summer. The tape was so old, it was cracking, faded, and looked pretty bad.

After removal with a Norton Stripe removal rubber wheel, I had set out to hopefully just remove it, but not replace it. That wasn't to be it seemed.

After a DA with LC Orange Pad and M205, I had, or thought I had all residue off. But there was still evidence of a difference of paint hue, and also a difference in paint thickness.

Again, trying with 2000 grit wet sanding, it was better, but still no cigar.
Without a paint gauge, I had no idea of how much I was playing with, and even so, would I be able to determine just how much clear coat was there, and if I went too far, I'd be sanding through the clear coat?

Thus, off to my local CARQUEST Parts Store, for a cheapo roll of gold 3M Tape ($11), and re-striped the car. Sadly, all but one area on the rear driver's side quarter panel did I not exactly trace where the old stiping was, and the evidence which looked like old adhesive was visible (about an 1/8" off it appears.

Two weeks ago, I very carefully tried WG Uber Compound by hand to remove this telltale adhesive ghosting to no avail. In fact, it was more prominent, and noticeable after.

If this was some collector car, I'd maybe again try at least removing the new Stripe on the driver's side, and again further wet sand this small area, but the work and aggravation of this beater ride of mine just really isn't worth the hassle, so I will leave well enough alone.
Mark
 
Talked to the guru at the paint / body supply shop today. He figures who ever put the stripe on didn't wait long enough for the clear coat to fully dry. The chemicals from the clear likely chemically "melted" the adhesive / stripe making it now impossible to take off. I'll try a little heat tonite, but it's probably on until I paint next year.

FredH
 
FredH said:
Pin Stripe Update:

The polished did nothing to remove the leftover adhesive, and I'm concerned about doing more.
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MarkD51 said:
Two weeks ago, I very carefully tried WG Uber Compound by hand to remove this telltale adhesive ghosting to no avail. In fact, it was more prominent, and noticeable after.
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To the OP, (FredH), see the word ghosting I made bold in the quote from Mark?

Just to be clear. There's adhesive residue and there's ghosting. You can normally remove residue but you cannot remove ghosting.

Ghosting is the visual imprint left in paint where a sticker, graphic or pin stripe once was placed.

It's not a defect "on" the paint, it's a defect throughout or in the paint and in most cases even wetsanding won't remove it.



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Thanks Mike. The areas where the adhesive came off do show a bit of ghosting, I expected that. Where the adhesive remains stands slightly proud of the paint surface. On a small, black car like the MR2 it shows enough that I will surrender and replace the old tape with the new. Cute little car without the tape but...
 
FredH said:
Thanks Mike. The areas where the adhesive came off do show a bit of ghosting, I expected that. Where the adhesive remains stands slightly proud of the paint surface. On a small, black car like the MR2 it shows enough that I will surrender and replace the old tape with the new. Cute little car without the tape but...
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Thanks for the follow-up....

Now how about a picture?


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Yo u can buy plastic razor blades. Coupled with stoners Tarminator. It should take it off... I used this combo on 11 year old RV decals. Which has a much stronger glue.

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