Plan for a new car - Carpro vs Gyeon?

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Hi!

I just bought my first new car and I want to take good care of it, so I've been reading up. I have been washing it with ONR and applying OptiSeal as a drying aid. I also decontaminated it with an iron remover and a clay mitt. I invested in a bunch of nice microfiber towels.

IMO it doesn't have any significant scratches or marring. I may be missing it, though. It's a dark grey Acura.

I want to take the next step and put a coating on before winter. I have been researching. My plan is to buy:
- Griot's Garage 6 inch random orbital polisher
- Griot's 5 inch backing plate

I know I need a bunch of pads. I was going to buy a 6 pack of the Lake Country Flat 5.5 inch flat pads, but confused which ones to buy. The green ones?

After that I would buy one of the following two sets:
1)
- CarPro Essence Xtreme gloss enhancer
- CarPro Eraser
- Cquartz UK 3.0 coating

2)
- Gyeon Q2 primer
- Gyeon Prep
- Gyeon Q2 One

Is one better than the other, or easier, or more foolproof? I am a complete beginner.
 
If you polish with Essence you can skip the Eraser, as Essence acts like a primer for Cquartz. You now eliminated one step. Oh and welcome to the forum.:props:
 
I have not used Gyeon One but I have read it is not the most user friendly coating. I have used CQUK 3.0 and it's pretty straight forward to use. I would give CQUK 3.0 a go.

Also for those that say you don't need a prep wipe with Essence, I would have to disagree and still recommend a prep wipe. The reason why is to remove any residual oils from the polish. I still do a prep wipe with Eraser even after Essence has been sitting on the paint overnight to let the SiO2 in it cure while the residual oils evaporate off the surface. I want to ensure that there is nothing in the way of the coating bonding to the surface. I do the same prep process with either version of cquartz.

Same concept if you go with Gyeon and using their primer polish and a coating.

As far as pads the Orange and White pads are among the favorites for the flat pads.
 
The Guz said:
I have not used Gyeon One but I have read it is not the most user friendly coating. I have used CQUK 3.0 and it's pretty straight forward to use. I would give CQUK 3.0 a go.

Also for those that say you don't need a prep wipe with Essence, I would have to disagree and still recommend a prep wipe. The reason why is to remove any residual oils from the polish. I still do a prep wipe with Eraser even after Essence has been sitting on the paint overnight to let the SiO2 in it cure while the residual oils evaporate off the surface. I want to ensure that there is nothing in the way of the coating bonding to the surface. I do the same prep process with either version of cquartz.

Same concept if you go with Gyeon and using their primer polish and a coating.




I guess you know better than the manufacturer:
"However, CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer is the perfect prep polish when used before applying a coating of CarPro CQuartz. After being polished with CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer, your paint will bond quickly and effectively with CarPro CQuartz, or even CarPro Reload, creating a hard layer of protection."
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Rsurfer said:
The Guz said:
I have not used Gyeon One but I have read it is not the most user friendly coating. I have used CQUK 3.0 and it's pretty straight forward to use. I would give CQUK 3.0 a go.

Also for those that say you don't need a prep wipe with Essence, I would have to disagree and still recommend a prep wipe. The reason why is to remove any residual oils from the polish. I still do a prep wipe with Eraser even after Essence has been sitting on the paint overnight to let the SiO2 in it cure while the residual oils evaporate off the surface. I want to ensure that there is nothing in the way of the coating bonding to the surface. I do the same prep process with either version of cquartz.

Same concept if you go with Gyeon and using their primer polish and a coating.




I guess you know better than the manufacturer:
"However, CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer is the perfect prep polish when used before applying a coating of CarPro CQuartz. After being polished with CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer, your paint will bond quickly and effectively with CarPro CQuartz, or even CarPro Reload, creating a hard layer of protection."
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And how many times has the manufacturer gone back and forth on what to do and what not to do. Corey himself is even on video mentioning a prep wipe. Also did I ever say that I know better than the manufacturer? I have done my fair share of coatings so I am giving my advice on what has worked for me. It is up to the OP to take that and decide what to do.
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ellery said:
After that I would buy one of the following two sets:
1)
- CarPro Essence Xtreme gloss enhancer
- CarPro Eraser
- Cquartz UK 3.0 coating

2)
- Gyeon Q2 primer
- Gyeon Prep
- Gyeon Q2 One

Is one better than the other, or easier, or more foolproof? I am a complete beginner.
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I'm biased towards GYEON's Syncro. 2 Layers of Mohs as the hard-coat. Stupid easy to use. Layer two is even better. Last layer is SKIN which gives you crazy hydrophobic property and goes on so easy you'll be laughing.

UK 3.0 is good stuff too. Can't go wrong. Both systems are essentially the same and easy to use.
 
The Guz said:
Rsurfer said:
And how many times has the manufacturer gone back and forth on what to do and what not to do. Corey himself is even on video mentioning a prep wipe. Also did I ever say that I know better than the manufacturer? I have done my fair share of coatings so I am giving my advice on what has worked for me. It is up to the OP to take that and decide what to do.
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If Corey knows that they might be a problem by not wiping down (Eraser/IPA) after using Essence and before applying CQuartz, he should have AG correct the instructions on AG website. The quote was from AG web site.
BTW I have recommended no wipe down after polishing with Essence to over 50 customers, including detailers and never received one complaint, including myself.
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I recommend CQUK 3.0 over Gyeon One. CQUK shows me better performance and it was easier to work with compared to One. Don't count out Sonax Polymer Net Shield or Gyeon CanCoat, these are two that I would more recommend to less experienced users compared to a full coating like CQUK. They will deliver very similar short term coating level performance, 6 months durability as opposed to 1+ years but without being as stringent to work with. However, if you're set on trying out a full coating, CQUK I consider the better option in every category against One.
 
ellery said:
Hi!

I just bought my first new car and I want to take good care of it, so I've been reading up. I have been washing it with ONR and applying OptiSeal as a drying aid. I also decontaminated it with an iron remover and a clay mitt. I invested in a bunch of nice microfiber towels.
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Welcome to AGO! :welcome:


ellery said:
IMO it doesn't have any significant scratches or marring. I may be missing it, though. It's a dark grey Acura.

I want to take the next step and put a coating on before winter. I have been researching. My plan is to buy:
- Griot's Garage 6 inch random orbital polisher
- Griot's 5 inch backing plate
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Good choice, the tool will not let you down. Here's an article I wrote with a TON of information plus the links to the AG store to get what you need. There's also a video that shows you everything you need to know to use this type of tool.

Here's what you need to get into machine polishing - Recommendations for a beginner by Mike Phillips




ellery said:
I know I need a bunch of pads. I was going to buy a 6 pack of the Lake Country Flat 5.5 inch flat pads, but confused which ones to buy. The green ones?
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I don't use the green pads much but for no reason. The are a "polishing" pad that leans to the soft side instead of the aggressive side so might be perfect for your car.

Green Lake Country 5 1/2 Inch Flat Foam Pad



Maybe get some orange pads too in case you need to do some correction work in the future.

Lake Country 5 1/2 x 7/8 inch Beveled Edge Foam Pads, buffing pads, Lake Country curved edge pads, polishing pads



ellery said:
After that I would buy one of the following two sets:
1)
- CarPro Essence Xtreme gloss enhancer
- CarPro Eraser
- Cquartz UK 3.0 coating
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ellery said:
2)
- Gyeon Q2 primer
- Gyeon Prep
- Gyeon Q2 One

Is one better than the other, or easier, or more foolproof? I am a complete beginner.
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To be honest, both of your selections are good choices and as long as you take your time when applying the coating you're going to get great results. It's kind of like asking which is better, Meguiar's M26 or Mothers California Gold Carnauba Paste Wax, they are both great choices for a carnauba based finishing wax.


Hang tight, let me get you a few more resources to help you out.


:)
 
Congrats on your new car! Just a friendly reminder to be careful around trim when polishing. If it's your first time, I'd suggest using tape.
 
The Guz said:
I have not used Gyeon One but I have read it is not the most user friendly coating. I have used CQUK 3.0 and it's pretty straight forward to use. I would give CQUK 3.0 a go.
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I too would pass on Gyeon One; little bit, uh...tenacious on removal. Someone mentioned One is even harder to remove than the original CQ UK (now supplanted by Cquartz UK Version 3.0, which apparently addresses that issue). While the vehicle I used One on (topped with Gyeon CanCoat) is doing well after 6 months, it was certainly the tackiest coating upon removal of anything I've tried. Very forgiving in that high spots could be removed even an hour later but the initial removal was irritating.
 
I've used CQ UK 2.0 and it was very easy to use. I can't imagine how much easier 3.0 might be.

I really like CQ UK. When paired with EchO2 as a QD/post-wash wipe down, it's really easy to maintain and looks great. While I haven't used Gyeon One, I have used CanCoat and after figuring out the application process (I over-thought it WAY too much) it is a great option as well. Occasionally topping with Cure yeids amazing results.
 
Thank you very much for all the advice, Mike and everyone!

I think I will lean toward the CarPro set if that seems to be the consensus. I like how Carpro has a matching waterless wash too.

A question about high spots and lighting...I think the Scan grip light recommended in the article is maybe a little too pricey for this project right now. Would this one be adequate? FLEX Swirl Finder Light

And if I do end up with a high spot...if I do nothing, it will wear off eventually in a year or so just like the rest of the coating, but the car will still be protected, is that correct? So the only harm done is having to look at it for a while?
 
ellery said:
And if I do end up with a high spot...if I do nothing, it will wear off eventually in a year or so just like the rest of the coating, but the car will still be protected, is that correct? So the only harm done is having to look at it for a while?
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Yes your car will still be protected. A highspot is only an area of coating you didn't buff out completely. It's no different than a spot of wax or sealant you missed in the buffing process...only harder to see and much more durable.

Hight spots really aren't that big of a deal to fix. I got rid of a couple this weekend on my car. I simply polished them out very carefully by hand with a finishing polish and a soft foam pad. I then cleaned the spot with panel prep and re-applied the coating. Took more than 5~10 minutes per spot.
 
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