please advise on removing sealant / wax

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hello fellow detailing enthusiasts! please help me with some advice. i currently have the following on my car:

chemical guys black light
chemical guys hybrid v7
natty's blue wax

the reason why i have natty's blue over the chemical guys stuff is because i wasn't happy with the look of the chemical guys combo and wanted to see if a carnauba would help. i'm still not happy with topping off with natty's blue so now i want to just go back to basics.

i want to strip everything off and just go with klasse aio topped with a carnauba, pinnacle souveran.

what's the best approach in stripping off the chemical guys sealant and natty's blue?

i was thinking of doing a chemical decon (iron remover) as i haven't done this on my car yet. then i plan to use carpro eraser afterward before the klasse aio.

what do you guys think? thanks in advance for the help!
 
Isopropyl alcohol 70 or 90%. Also dish detergent on the lower portion of the vehicle to if the detergent is working. Meguiars M105 will work as well.


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I’d say claybar or a paint cleaner like McKee’s Coating Prep Polish is the only true way to remove a recently applied lsp in 1 shot. Those ipa sprays may be good for removing polishing oils, but I wouldn’t count on them when it comes to removing a solid layer of protection.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Eldorado2k said:
How long ago was all that applied?
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chemical guys black light - applied 7 months ago
chemical guys hybrid v7 - applied 7 months ago
natty's blue wax - applied 2 months ago

car is a bit of a garage queen. only gets driven on the weekend occasionally (never in rain). racked up about 700 miles for the past 7 months.
 
dailo308 said:
chemical guys black light - applied 7 months ago
chemical guys hybrid v7 - applied 7 months ago
natty's blue wax - applied 2 months ago

car is a bit of a garage queen. only gets driven on the weekend occasionally (never in rain). racked up about 700 miles for the past 7 months.
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In that case, just wash it with car shampoo and wipe it down with Eraser. You’ll do the iron remover before the wash but that’s not really expected to do much of the lsp removing but that’s ok.

The AIO you’re planning on using should very well remove all of what you’ve currently got on the paint. You’ve got it easy.

-Chemical decon

-Rinse

-Car wash shampoo bucket wash.

-Dry

-Eraser Wipedown

-Klasse AIO

-Pinnacle Souveren
 
Eldorado2k said:
In that case, just wash it with car shampoo and wipe it down with Eraser. You’ll do the iron remover before the wash but that’s not really expected to do much of the lsp removing but that’s ok.

The AIO you’re planning on using should very well remove all of what you’ve currently got on the paint. You’ve got it easy.

-Chemical decon

-Rinse

-Car wash shampoo bucket wash.

-Dry

-Eraser Wipedown

-Klasse AIO

-Pinnacle Souveren
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thank you for the reply. do you think the iron remover is really necessary? will using it provide more depth, shine, wetness, etc.? thanks again.
 
dailo308 said:
thank you for the reply. do you think the iron remover is really necessary? will using it provide more depth, shine, wetness, etc.? thanks again.
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Yea it’s worth doing, especially if you’ve never done it before.
Noticeable results are a cleaner looking finish, especially on white vehicles. Leaves the paint looking and feeling almost squeaky clean.

Spray it on. If it turns red/purple within 5min. then you know it’s done its job of removing any iron particles off the paint.

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If it doesn’t change colors within 5min. then there wasn’t any iron particles in your paint, but at least you know you’re good.

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Rinse off thoroughly with the hose and proceed to washing the vehicle.
 
As Eldorado2K mentioned see if an iron remover reacts. Mostly behind the panels of the wheels and back of the car is where iron particals building most. And if you have a lot of fallout in your environment also on the horisontall panels. Test it around on some panels and if reaction accurs do the whole car for the peace of mind and also to get out of your paint as it's not so good in the longrun to have it in your paint.

One strip wash that seems to be effective is Poorboy's Strip Down Wax Stripper. That could be an option to try out. But the Klasse AIO cleaning and polishing should get rid of any LSP products that is on their last longevity.

Poorboy?s World Strip Down Wax Stripper
 
Super Klean in the purple bottle, rinse, wash, decon, rinse, dry, IPA wipe down. That should do it and cost you almost nothing.
 
Poorboys strip down wax stripper works great at this. I have not found a product comparable at this point.


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Try using Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer. That is what it is designed to do, strip old sealants, waxes etc and prep for new coating!
 
Only two ways to strip LSP with silicone polymers
First one is obvious, abraisives via polish

The other is chemical via acid wash like CS-II DeWax or even IGL Delete

I've tested various products and try and keep testing as many more as they come out
PH balanced, hi alkaline, solvent have no chemical reaction to a simple paste wax such as autogylm HD.
Products that claim to strip only leave a surfactant behind to mask LSP properties, once that surfactant evaporates, LSP properties are restored.
 
PearTree said:
Poorboys strip down wax stripper works great at this. I have not found a product comparable at this point.


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Doesn't work, nor does the McKee strip wash one .these were the two most recent ones I tested.
 
If anyone wants the best way to strip/clean
You should do acid, followed by hi alkaline, regular wash, clay o
If you want,as acid doesn't always eat all the Contaminates away,
no need for fall out remover with acid either.
Compound/polish, panel prep, seal
 
Mike@ShineStruck said:
Only two ways to strip LSP with silicone polymers
First one is obvious, abraisives via polish

The other is chemical via acid wash like CS-II DeWax or even IGL Delete

I've tested various products and try and keep testing as many more as they come out
PH balanced, hi alkaline, solvent have no chemical reaction to a simple paste wax such as autogylm HD.
Products that claim to strip only leave a surfactant behind to mask LSP properties, once that surfactant evaporates, LSP properties are restored.
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What about McKee’s Coating Prep Polish and/or claybar? Those 2 options always seem like the sure shot for me.
 
Eldorado2k said:
What about McKee’s Coating Prep Polish and/or claybar? Those 2 options always seem like the sure shot for me.
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If the coating prep polish is actually a polish and not just solvent based then yes it'll work, otherwise nope

claybarring only takes off Contaminates, I mean if you sealed over the Contaminate than yes, you'll get some removel
 
Mike@ShineStruck said:
claybarring only takes of Contaminates, I mean if you sealed over the Contaminate than yes, you'll get some removable
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That seems a bit too scientific to be real...

And how do you explain beading completely going away after I claybar the paint? Clay doesn’t leave any surfactants. And the D114 I use as claylube usually revives any hidden beading.
 
I was looking at a video where the guy was stripping the sealant. He was using car pro eraser & it was a Ferrari.
 
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