Polish Angel Master sealant?
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atgonzales
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Fight,
The unofficial expert on the Polish Angel is 512 on Autopia, may I recommend posting this on the Autopia forum
The unofficial expert on the Polish Angel is 512 on Autopia, may I recommend posting this on the Autopia forum
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DESCRIPTION:
MASTER SEALANT is an easy to use premium paint sealant. It's high-quality is clear with the fine level of gloss it produces and paint slickness similar to that of a carnauba based sealing product. This masterpiece contains extreme paint sealing polymers that protects like a crystal clear ceramic layer. This finish will last up to 12 months on the paint] protecting it from all kinds of weather, including acid, water spotting and offers an intense UV protection.
I got this straight from their website..
MASTER SEALANT is an easy to use premium paint sealant. It's high-quality is clear with the fine level of gloss it produces and paint slickness similar to that of a carnauba based sealing product. This masterpiece contains extreme paint sealing polymers that protects like a crystal clear ceramic layer. This finish will last up to 12 months on the paint] protecting it from all kinds of weather, including acid, water spotting and offers an intense UV protection.
I got this straight from their website..
FUNX650
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{Hip, Hip, Hooray!...for the
magic of oblique marketing.}
Pliny the Elder recommended that a
grain of salt was to be used as an
antidote for poison.
•In this instance: instead of salt, I’ll
suggest to substitute “a grain of sand”;
-For among many of its “properties”, Silica
(SiO2) is the starting material for ceramics.
Bob
BudgetPlan1
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Hmmm...this sounds potentially interesting. Did not know this.
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Yeah its been around for at least 5 years now its a very nice hybrid wax.
It makes sense that the Master sealant is the same thing except they are using synthetic wax instead of real carnauba.
I'm surprised we don't have conformation on this 1 way or the other. I'll email travis kent the rep but its hit or miss sometimes he responds sometimes no. It usually takes a few days but ill update the thread if he responds
It's me that is claiming it's has both sio2 and tio2 in it. I live in Sweden and the reseller of Polish Angel here is also involved with testing and devolop of products to PA. Viking Coat and Viking Shield has came out of their testing and made by specification of PA Sweden. I made a translation from their description on MS on their page.
This outstanding sealant offers its innovative silica content (SI02) for increased hardness and titanium dioxide (TiO2) for increased reflectivity and clarity.
And after direction of use this writes:
For best results and durability use POLISHANGEL® |ESCALATE LOTION |THE ORIGINAL before applying Master Sealant
ESCALATE LOTION is designed for use together Master Sealant
Esclate Lotion don't has any protection in but glossenhancers and when used after polishing it helps with getting the polishing oils to evaporate like essence does. So it's a kind of a paint cleaner that recommended to use before MS. Of course you could use it with other products. And products that is based on sio2 and tio2 need as a clean surface as possible to bond properly. The primer would be Invicible Primer which is recommended to cosmic and Viking Coat. I confess that I called Esclate Lotion as a primer before wrong.
MS I don't think is only based on sio2 and tio2. But have other polymers to get it their special look. And I think that other products that is based on sio2 and tio2 is also containing other things to get it their own looks. This and the different strings of sio2 and if it's has tio2 makes them looking different. Just what I think though.
Either way Polish Angel makes some awesome looking LSP and if they calls it a sealant or coating or wax I don't mind. If you would like to use products out of PA it could be good to know what it's based on. PA has way more products offered than AGO has. And it's not unusual that it is so. For an example Cosmic v2 can be orded as color matching to your car. And the color coded spray waxes they have many too. It's an interesting line of products they have and the ease of use is awesome I think. Think they are making their LSP with the looks and ease of use in mind than the extreme longevity of it.
This outstanding sealant offers its innovative silica content (SI02) for increased hardness and titanium dioxide (TiO2) for increased reflectivity and clarity.
And after direction of use this writes:
For best results and durability use POLISHANGEL® |ESCALATE LOTION |THE ORIGINAL before applying Master Sealant
ESCALATE LOTION is designed for use together Master Sealant
Esclate Lotion don't has any protection in but glossenhancers and when used after polishing it helps with getting the polishing oils to evaporate like essence does. So it's a kind of a paint cleaner that recommended to use before MS. Of course you could use it with other products. And products that is based on sio2 and tio2 need as a clean surface as possible to bond properly. The primer would be Invicible Primer which is recommended to cosmic and Viking Coat. I confess that I called Esclate Lotion as a primer before wrong.
MS I don't think is only based on sio2 and tio2. But have other polymers to get it their special look. And I think that other products that is based on sio2 and tio2 is also containing other things to get it their own looks. This and the different strings of sio2 and if it's has tio2 makes them looking different. Just what I think though.
Either way Polish Angel makes some awesome looking LSP and if they calls it a sealant or coating or wax I don't mind. If you would like to use products out of PA it could be good to know what it's based on. PA has way more products offered than AGO has. And it's not unusual that it is so. For an example Cosmic v2 can be orded as color matching to your car. And the color coded spray waxes they have many too. It's an interesting line of products they have and the ease of use is awesome I think. Think they are making their LSP with the looks and ease of use in mind than the extreme longevity of it.
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You don't have to convince me bro Ive been using polish angel products for a while now. Are you confident that Master sealant has a ceramic base (sio2 ti02)? I understand that translation but Is the Master Sealant made to the same standard at all the stores like the viking line?
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The USA PA site only lists the colormatch option for Cosmic V1 and not V2. Any idea what exactly the Colormatch option brings to the table?
I will e-mail them and ask if there is a difference. They do have a Master Sealant SPR Edition too which would be interesting to hear what the difference is to the original. The description is not any difference in and claims the same. I will hear about viking shield which I believe is MS with higher content of sio2 in it. But will follow up with the answers I get. I think that it has sio2 and tio2 in MS. But since they have a different carrier system than most with the creamy texture I think they call it a sealant because of that. Think they describes Cosmic and Viking Coat as sealants on some sites too.
I think that most descriptions is pretty vague. Really like when reps from the companys comes in to this forum and leaves a more in depth descriptions. The Gyeon rep described theirs coatings difference very well. And McKees 37 has also done some great description of their products. Proberly more companys has done it but those what was came to mind.
It can be very confuseing when looking on the same product on different seller sites. And the description and the use of it is different. Don't think it's the sellers like AGO but the manufactures that not is detailed enough in their description of their products.
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You sure it wasn't the carnubaflocken creme? That's the 1 with the carnuba flake not Master sealant . Flocken means flake
Hope it's okay to copy the description on another site for Cosmic v2. As I understand it you provide the color code your car has and they color matching it to just that color or the most suited blend to enhance the color with it.
For MULTI COLOUR(for all shades/colours) please select MULTI from the "COLOUR ADAPTATION (SINGLE/MULTI):" box only
For SINGLE COLOUR adaption please fill in the "SINGLE COLOUR|CODE ONLY" box with your required colour or colour code and select SINGLE in the "COLOUR ADAPTATION (SINGLE/MULTI):" box
NEW IMPROVED V2 Highly Durable, Colour Enhancing Glasscoat
POLISHANGEL® specialise in colour-matched and perfectly interlocking handmade automotive finishing systems. This exclusive and unique system is unmatched in quality and sustainability. Each colour pigment generated is called a special colour spectrum or light spectrum. Millions of special micro pigments produce an extremely concentrated colour density to create a firework of spectral colour.
This patented coating system contains silica (SiO2) and titanium (TiO2), which increases endurance and provides a highly protective layer. GLASSCOAT COSMIC V2 provides an unbelievable surface clarity and colour transparency enhanced with Carnauba. Its pleasant creamy texture is easy to apply and easy to buff off.
No I know thats Flocken but did read somewhere the same with MS. MS might just have less concentration.
Copied from UK site:
Master sealant is an easy-to-use premium paint sealant that creates an extremely high gloss combined with a super slick surface. Its unique blend of Carnauba and crystal-clear ceramic sealant will protect your paintwork for up to 12 months.
Features & Benefits:
Ultimate wet look
Lasts up to 12 months
Extremely easy to apply
High scratch resistance
Acid rain and UV protection
Layer thickness of 6 - 8 microns
Master sealant is an easy-to-use premium paint sealant that creates an extremely high gloss combined with a super slick surface. Its unique blend of Carnauba and crystal-clear ceramic sealant will protect your paintwork for up to 12 months.
Features & Benefits:
Ultimate wet look
Lasts up to 12 months
Extremely easy to apply
High scratch resistance
Acid rain and UV protection
Layer thickness of 6 - 8 microns
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Is it the same product regardless of what site u buy from? U mentioned the viking coat and shield being made to a standard? Is it the same for the other products?
Yes the Viking Coat and Viking Shield is the same every where. I don't know about the MS spr edition though. But will mail them and ask about it.
Found the msds sheat of Master Sealant on the german site. It's contains at least tio2 titanium dioxide then I fill in the rest of the harzard chemicals it contains.
Tetraethylsilikat <20 %
CAS 78-10-4
Naphtha (Erdöl), mit Wasserstoff behandelt, schwer >25 %
CAS 64742-48-9
titanium dioxide <10 %
CAS 13463-67-7
Aminofunctional Silicone Fluid 5 - 10 %
CAS 69430-37-1
acrylic polymers <45 %
CAS 9003-01-4
Interesting what it contains
Found the msds sheat of Master Sealant on the german site. It's contains at least tio2 titanium dioxide then I fill in the rest of the harzard chemicals it contains.
Tetraethylsilikat <20 %
CAS 78-10-4
Naphtha (Erdöl), mit Wasserstoff behandelt, schwer >25 %
CAS 64742-48-9
titanium dioxide <10 %
CAS 13463-67-7
Aminofunctional Silicone Fluid 5 - 10 %
CAS 69430-37-1
acrylic polymers <45 %
CAS 9003-01-4
Interesting what it contains