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well after talking with a local detail shop. im going to save my money and save up for a Flex. he said that at full speed the vibration of the porter cable wasn't tolerable.

i hope i have not confused any one.

considering he had about 5 flex at the shop.... im going to place my money where it counts and save up.
 
Bradshaw said:
No offense but throw some commas,,,,,in that commentary, that made my head spin..
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No offense but throw some commas in. That commentary made my head spin.

No offense taken. Sorry for the grammatical omissions. When I wrote it I was half asleep.
 
87rx7chick said:
well after talking with a local detail shop. im going to save my money and save up for a Flex. he said that at full speed the vibration of the porter cable wasn't tolerable.

i hope i have not confused any one.

considering he had about 5 flex at the shop.... im going to place my money where it counts and save up.
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i have one and i dont recall there ever being a vibration, also, and i would never ???? mike, but my pc came with a pad attached to a backing plate.
 
cooksnj said:
i have one and i dont recall there ever being a vibration, also, and i would never ???? mike, but my pc came with a pad attached to a backing plate.
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oh ok cool. but who's mike?

not sure which porter cable was tried out, version one or version 2 with the vibration. i didnt realize there was 1 and 2 until i got home and researched.

im not questioning any one just trying to take all the info in and get it right before spending 150-300$
 
Trying to figure out which machine to buy can cause one's head to spin. Remember there are two models of the Griot DA out, two older Porter Cables if my memory is correct and a new PCXP. Meg's had a Ultimate Detailing machine and the g100 plus the new g100v2. flex has both a fixed DA and a rotary plus a larger rotary the size of a Makita.Dewalt makes a DW849 rotary as well . Other not so common brands but higher in price or the Cyclo , Fein .Matabo and I know I'm leaving some others out. Just like cars , they make all sizes in a lot of different price ranges. Think about how often will one use it. Will it be for business or a hobby etc.
Now that we have you totally confused (j/k) I wish you luck in your choice. :buffing:



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having to find a good RO is a tough decision to make without first trying them out. They are like gloves.....some fit better than others. Whatever feels comfortable after 6 or 8 hours of intense use. Going to Autogeek's detailing semenars really made the decision easy for me, being able to try all the different machines on the market. GRIOTS feels good even after 8 hours in my hands, has alot of power, comes in kit form from Autogeek so you get backing plate and pads. It seems to be the only machine in my arsenal besides my vacuum that I use every day and enjoy the results----see my posts, all done with Griots RO
 
The Flex is a nice machine but why in the world they engineered it for only 1 size pad is beyond me.
 
Will you use it for just you personal use or will you be doing it for a business. I would think either DA would be fine for personal use and the Flex may be overkill in the $$ area. If cash in not a issue, I think we would all like to own a flex. Like is said above the DA offers more flexibility for pad sizes anywhere from 4" to 6.5". I own a Griot's and have been very happy with the power and dependability to date. I think the Griot's is slightly heavier than the PCXP. Good luck, it's a confusing and hard choice without being able to put hands on both side by side.
 
Bradshaw said:
The Flex is a nice machine but why in the world they engineered it for only 1 size pad is beyond me.
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Boy is that the truth.I may of heard that Lake country was looking into making a BP for the flex but the tooling cost was unreal.It was something like a couple hundred thousand.Not sure if you ever got a chance to take off the BP but you can see why they only made one side.The BP has a tooth plastic gear formed into it.If they made other sizes that really would be the iceing on the cake
 
Buckskincolt said:
Will you use it for just you personal use or will you be doing it for a business. I would think either DA would be fine for personal use and the Flex may be overkill in the $$ area. If cash in not a issue, I think we would all like to own a flex. Like is said above the DA offers more flexibility for pad sizes anywhere from 4" to 6.5". I own a Griot's and have been very happy with the power and dependability to date. I think the Griot's is slightly heavier than the PCXP. Good luck, it's a confusing and hard choice without being able to put hands on both side by side.
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:iagree:I don't think you can go wrong with either. They both have +'s and -'s. It seems like there is an almost equal split of support for both. They both can do what they are supposed to and what the manufactures claim they can as long as the operator takes the time to learn the tool...
 
Bradshaw said:
The Flex is a nice machine but why in the world they engineered it for only 1 size pad is beyond me.
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maybe because flex is a true force rotational and the griots and porter cable arnt true force rotational meaning if you give it enough force on the outer edge it will stop rotating and just vibrate please correct me if i am wrong

i know that the flex back plate has gearing on it
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as you can see its like a spirograph it rotates with in and follows the gear alot like a rotary engine lops around inside ;)
 
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In Dallas at Nick Chapman's GTG , Mike Phillips showed the class something that I personally had never thought of. When the flex is turned on its edge like for a panel with a grove in it the forced rotation of the flex bounces up and down sort of beating the panel and not staying in contact with the panel where as the Groits or pc style with a variable rotation would remain in contact with the panel and keep spinning.Just something to keep in mind when making a choice. I guess in a perfect world one might own both a rotary and a da or two. For those that do this for a living I can see where its necessary but for a hobbiest on a budget , concessions might have to be made.
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2old2change said:
In Dallas at Nick Chapman's GTG , Mike Phillips showed the class something that I personally had never thought of. When the flex is turned on its edge like for a panel with a grove in it the forced rotation of the flex bounces up and down sort of beating the panel and not staying in contact with the panel where as the Groits or pc style with a variable rotation would remain in contact with the panel and keep spinning.Just something to keep in mind when making a choice. I guess in a perfect world one might own both a rotary and a da or two. For those that do this for a living I can see where its necessary but for a hobbiest on a budget , concessions might have to be made.
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:) so forced rotation DA arnt always good in situations like that. thats wonderful news , never thought of that!
 
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