prep trim for coating ?

[hmardown]

can car pro eraser be used to prep trim for gyeon Q2 trim ? my mustang trim(front spoiler & plastic rocker panels) look kinda blah. even after washing it look's faded out on a 1600 mile car. also is that gyeon Q2 trim a good solution ? thanks, Carlo

 

[The Guz]

can car pro eraser be used to prep trim for gyeon Q2 trim ? my mustang trim(front spoiler & plastic rocker panels) look kinda blah. even after washing it look's faded out on a 1600 mile car. also is that gyeon Q2 trim a good solution ? thanks, Carlo

Eraser will work as a prep for it.

Trim is good and will darken the trim a bit. It won’t fully restore trim that needs to be restored. In that instance solution finish would be the way to go.

 

[TTQ B4U]

can car pro eraser be used to prep trim for gyeon Q2 trim ? my mustang trim(front spoiler & plastic rocker panels) look kinda blah. even after washing it look's faded out on a 1600 mile car. also is that gyeon Q2 trim a good solution ? thanks, Carlo

Yep, you can use Optimum Paint Prep, Eraser, GYEON's product, etc. Pretty much as long as the trim is cleaned these products will go and remove any oils and what not thus offering a good bond for the coating. Q2 TRIM will darken it up a bit yes so given you mentioned a 1,600 mile car I'm assuming it's new. I put some 50/50 pics up in a couple posts I've done after completing details showing how TRIM will darken up the plastic a bit. Here's a 3,400 mile Ford Focus ST that shows it. I put some up in a small set of photos for a brand new at the time Mazda 5 too.

 

[Eldorado2k]

can car pro eraser be used to prep trim for gyeon Q2 trim ? my mustang trim(front spoiler & plastic rocker panels) look kinda blah. even after washing it look's faded out on a 1600 mile car. also is that gyeon Q2 trim a good solution ? thanks, Carlo

Have you considered using a spray product like Trim Shine or Meguiars D4510 Plastic & Vinyl Coating [aerosol can]? McKee’s makes 1 now too.

They may not last as long as a coating but man do they look good when applied. Nothing makes plastic pop like that. Not even coatings, because they tone down for the long haul.

 

[hmardown]

Thanks for the replies. Guess I’d like to darken it up a little. It is a new car but the trim looks almost faded. I’m a little skeptical about using a spray product. Not looking to have any clean up work from the over spray. These are the parts I’m looking to dress up.

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[Eldorado2k]

Yea if it’s panels go with a non spray... I thought you were talking about parts like the grill.

 

[hmardown]

OK got it. appreciate the replies, guess I need to get the credit card out & call my friends at autogeek.

 

[hmardown]

Thanks for the replies. Guess I’d like to darken it up a little. It is a new car but the trim looks almost faded. I’m a little skeptical about using a spray product. Not looking to have any clean up work from the over spray. These are the parts I’m looking to dress up.

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Well I finally tried gyeon Q2 trim. This product is awesome. I don’t think you can tell by the picture but I was very pleased. I just did the front spoiler but will be doing the rest of my car soon. I applied it without wiping it off afterwards. Came out great so I didn’t touch it.


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[Calendyr]

Jimbo Bailaam has started a serie on prep products for coating, and CarPro Eracer failed miserably. It could not remove the sealant for the panel... at all!

For plastic trim, I use window cleaner as a prep product. My paint prep product is either Gtechniq Panel Wipe or Duplicolor Grease and wax remover, and I don't use either on plastic... strong solvents and plastics are not a good match.

As the Guz mentioned, if you need to restore the plastic first, Solution Finish is the definitve product for that! They also has a plastic cleaner that is just amazing... I wish I could buy it seperatelly from the Solution Finish restorer.

 

[The Guz]

Jimbo Bailaam has started a serie on prep products for coating, and CarPro Eracer failed miserably. It could not remove the sealant for the panel... at all!

Eraser wasn’t designed to remove a wax or sealant. There is no mention of it doing that from the manufacturer. It’s designed to remove polishing oils. Same can be said for other prep spray products.

I had mentioned to Jimbo that exact thing in his video. He came back with a second attempt but even that video doesn’t prove anything. I also mentioned that he should watch the video that Americana Global has on their prep spray and how it breaks down a polish.

 

[hmardown]

thanks, I wasn't trying to remove wax. I just wanted to clean off the plastic trim so the gyeon Q2 trim would bond to it. on another note I do have some plastic on my truck with wax stuck on it. and I haven't found anything to take it off. last thing i tried was mckee's with a toothbrush. it didn't even attempt to remove the wax stain. you guys that have those carpet steamer's, have you ever tried steam to remove wax stains ?

 

[WristyManchego]

Eraser wasn’t designed to remove a wax or sealant. There is no mention of it doing that from the manufacturer. It’s designed to remove polishing oils. Same can be said for other prep spray products.

I had mentioned to Jimbo that exact thing in his video. He came back with a second attempt but even that video doesn’t prove anything. I also mentioned that he should watch the video that Americana Global has on their prep spray and how it breaks down a polish.

Ditto. Dude has an audience but doesn’t produce quality testing criteria and often gets products and their uses wrong.

When the majority of responses are in vane of “man eraser sucks. Never using it again. Thanks jimbo” it’s no wonder manufacturers don’t tap this guy on the shoulder more often.

 

[Calendyr]

Eraser wasn’t designed to remove a wax or sealant. There is no mention of it doing that from the manufacturer. It’s designed to remove polishing oils. Same can be said for other prep spray products.

I had mentioned to Jimbo that exact thing in his video. He came back with a second attempt but even that video doesn’t prove anything. I also mentioned that he should watch the video that Americana Global has on their prep spray and how it breaks down a polish.

Isn't Eracer what CarPro suggests as a prep for their coating? If it is, and it cannot remove a wax or a sealant, how do they expect CQuartz to bind to the paint?

 

[Calendyr]

Ditto. Dude has an audience but doesn’t produce quality testing criteria and often gets products and their uses wrong.

When the majority of responses are in vane of “man eraser sucks. Never using it again. Thanks jimbo” it’s no wonder manufacturers don’t tap this guy on the shoulder more often.

The thing is, if your prep product cannot prep the surface correctly... how would you rate the product?

I know some youtuber who always have only positive things to say about every product.. I am sure those get more than a tap on the shoulder...

Thing is, I am not looking for sales videos when I watch product reviews.

 

[The Guz]

Isn't Eracer what CarPro suggests as a prep for their coating? If it is, and it cannot remove a wax or a sealant, how do they expect CQuartz to bind to the paint?

Removing polishing oils is different from removing a wax or sealant. Cquartz will bond to the polished paint just like any other coating pending a prep wipe after a coating.

 

[WristyManchego]

The thing is, if your prep product cannot prep the surface correctly... how would you rate the product?

I know some youtuber who always have only positive things to say about every product.. I am sure those get more than a tap on the shoulder...

Thing is, I am not looking for sales videos when I watch product reviews.

Prep can be considered any step that comes before polishing if that’s your focus, but a prep spray traditionally cleans the panel between polishing and protecting to promote bonding.

It can also be used between sets to inspect polishing or on windows if you sway that way.

But it wasn’t designed to strip wax or sealants. Every ‘prep’ stage before coating helps strip layers of contamination and previous coatings; chemical decon, mechanical decon, pre-rinse, wash, solvent strip, compound, polish, solvent prep.

My problem with IPA-based prep is that it’s insufficient for proper panel prep prior to coating; It simply doesn’t have the solvent power to remove all contamination and is only useful on light oils and fingerprints.

GTechniq prep, IGL pre coat & Americana global prep products will get you closer to perfect prep.

With regards to uncoated plastic panels and trim, it’s best to always to a test spot of a prep product before digging in and ALWAYS apply directly to the cloth and not the substrate. Staining can be irreversible.

 

[57Rambler]

My problem with IPA-based prep is that it’s insufficient for proper panel prep prior to coating; It simply doesn’t have the solvent power to remove all contamination and is only useful on light oils and fingerprints.

GTechniq prep, IGL pre coat & Americana global prep products are well on the way to perfect prep.

Have you looked up the MSDS's for those products ? They are surprising.

 

[WristyManchego]

Have you looked up the MSDS's for those products ? They are surprising.

Yes. They’re full of delicious solvents and hydrocarbons.

 

[WristyManchego]

The thing is, if your prep product cannot prep the surface correctly... how would you rate the product?

I missed this question.

With regard to eraser, I’d test it on what it should be used for, what detailers use it for and what it claims to do.

Uses and test scenarios:

Panel prep - polish a panel with finishing polish, don’t remove residue, use eraser as per instructions, observe results

Grease, oils, fingerprints - fully prep and correct a panel, apply a heavy grease, light grease, oil and finger prints in equal sections, use eraser as per instructions, observe results

Window cleaning - use instead of normal window cleaner on dirty window, observe results

Note that the tests need to be exaggerated to ascertain the products efficacy. Of course, under normal conditions you aren’t going to jump straight into eraser without wiping off polishing residue first.

All tests should be against products in the same category, with a control (water) and the same technique/application method unless manufacturer recommends something vastly different.

 

[Calendyr]

Removing polishing oils is different from removing a wax or sealant. Cquartz will bond to the polished paint just like any other coating pending a prep wipe after a coating.

Ok. But it's a consumer product. Many consummers are not gonna polish the paint before application. So if their prep product cannot remove wax or sealant, then you are gonna coat right on top of it.