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- Photo courtesy of BlackWow Pro Facebook Page -


In this review, we are reviewing Black Wow Classic as well as Black Wow Pro, both on a Chevy Avalanche.


*PreWow was used prior to Black Wow Classic, but not before either applications of Black Wow Pro. Also to make it easier to write this review, BlackWow Classic will be abbreviated BWC and BlackWow Pro will be abbreviated BWP as well as PreWow will be abbreviated PW. I hope this doesn't confuse anyone.

Background:
I have been on the hunt for a couple years for a product that I could use to restore slightly faded trim on my customers vehicles that was affordable, durable, and easy to use, while still being good enough to use as an add on service for severely neglected trim. After reading a few reviews I purchased the Black WOW Prepare to be WOWed Kit
to test out.
Initial test were very promising, I didn't really use the PW too often, but most of the vehicles coming in the shop warranted a quick application of BWC and as I applied it to various forms of trim I was able to learn 1st hand what its strengths an weaknesses where. When it comes to porous pieces like the trim on Honda Civics between the hood and windshield, Honda Element, and Jeep Wranglers the durability is outstanding (I still have customers coming in almost a year later with BWC still going strong), but on non porous trim like those found on door pillars, roof rails, etc..., trim would be around the same as Mothers Back to Black, week or 2 at best.(At the time I didn't know why this was the case until I sought out some help) After seeing what worked and what didn't I decided to put it to the test in restoring severely neglected trim. So I bought another 4oz bottle of BWC, called a friend who just so happened to have a Avalanche, who's trim has seen much better days.

Before - August 5, 2013
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Use and Application of Black Wow Kit: August 5, 2013
We washed the Avalanche as we normally would, once washed we set about taping off the paint around the rear trim, and applied PW direct to the trim with a DA Carpet Scrub Brush to give the trim the deep cleaning. Once we cleaned prepped the trim with PW, we then cleaned off the PW with a strong APC. If you leave PW on the trim, it can effect the durability of BWC and BWP.
Here is what it looked like directly after 2 applications of BWC.

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Later on that evening we used the Avalanche as a show vehicle at the Local "National Night Out". Here is what the trim looked like after a few hours of absorbing. I missed the signs that something was wrong, the trim was starting to absorb all the BWC.

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3 Days later I got a call from my friend that the trim wasn't looking right, told him to bring it down and this was what I saw. August 8. 2013

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This is one of the reasons why we test every product ourselves before we put on paying customers vehicles. So I set out to find out why this was happening, contacted Richard Lin himself and told him the problem I was having.
This is were I was actually blown away, instead of writing me off, or placing the blame on me he, he asked me questions, everything from prep and application, to how it was looking and how long it was taking to get the look it currently had. We
talked for a while on the phone and then again online and this is where I learned why BWC and BWP work the way they do. Both are silicon based, and for them to work, they have to be absorbed into the trim so that it can be restored from the INSIDE - OUT. Solution was to apply BWC till the trim was fully "hyrdrated" and stopped absorbing, first problem with that is that BWC is slow absorbing, takes many applications over a longer period of time to get the desired effect on severely neglected trim, which from a production point of view is impractical unless you have the vehicle for several days. 2nd Problem was, I ran out of BWC on the Avalanche. I figured since I was already working with him on the problem, I would just purchase the solution from him and just order more BWC through him, but what no one knew at the time was that Richard, who already saw the limitations of BWC, how it was being used from detailers all over the country, was already developing a significantly faster version of BWC. Instead of letting me purchase BWC, he refused payment and instead sent me the first bottle (outside of his shop) to me to apply to the Avalanche and test it's durability.
A few days later, I received the package, called my friend, and got to work putting the, then unnamed, BWP to the test.

Blackwow Pro (Beta) Application August 18, 2013

Before
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As you can see, in some areas the trim has fully absorbed BWC, now 13 days after initial application. Lets see what "Blackwow 2" can do.


First Application of Blackwow Pro:August 18, 2013

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As you can see, the left side is already absorbing, significantly faster than BWC.
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We waited 10 minutes between applications. Here is the 2nd and final application:
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After the 2nd application, I waited another 10 minutes, wiped off the excess and my friend went about his day, Prep and coating, and clean-up took about an hour. I'd say it'd take around 3 or 4 application of BWP if I was dealing with the same trim untreated originally and it would have taken 2 maybe 3 hours, not 3 weeks. Major improvement in time, but at a sacrifice in durability. BWC can get over a year of durability on properly prepped trim, while BWP is around 6 months, so it's up to you to determine which is better for your scenario.

Ease of use and time management aren't the only reason why I liked BWP over BWC, product usage was also outstanding.

Before Application to the Avalanche:
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After 2 coats of BWP to all the trim of the Avalanche:
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Here is Black Wow Pro 2 weeks after application: September 2, 2013

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2 weeks and no more signs of absorbtion leaving an outstanding finish, matte, dry to the touch, and no transfer. The trim is "hydrated" not just stained or dyed back to a black state. So in my opinion, anyone who details for a living should have this in there toolbox, even enthusiast can benefit from the ease of use of Blackwow Pro over Blackwow Classic. Both are great products, you just have to weigh the pros and cons and pick which works best for you, can't go wrong either way :dblthumb2:.

 
7 Months Later - Time to reapply Blackwow Pro: April 18, 2014
Here we are in April, after the worse winter in over a decade and the Avalanche is back to wrap up the test of Blackwow Pro. Blackwow seems to have all but disappeared. Trim isn't as bad as day 1, but it's taken a beating so far.

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As you can see, it needs some love. Check out some 50/50's

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During
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After Everyone loves the after pics. :props:
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The Avalanche will be coming in again on Monday April 21 2014, so progress pics will be uploaded for the Avalanche and that will wrap up the review. Hope you enjoyed the review, now go order some Blackwow Pro!:xyxthumbs:

During the latest visit, we made a video on how we apply BWP to neglected faded porous trim. Hope you like it.
Trim Restoration - Black Wow Pro - Pro Auto Detailing - North Andover MA
 
Hell of a review. Everything you want from a review and more. Great posting and picture taking with excellent captions below explaining the use if product. Thanks for sharing and posting. Great job again. Video was on point also.
 
Thank you for the great review. I read everything word for word. Very good presentation as well :D
 
Nice review! It's refreshing to hear the company didn't lay the blame on you. That's almost unheard of in this day and age

I'm going to have to get some of this stuff to keep on hand
 
I ordered some on Friday during the sale glad to hear the company takes care of their customers and that bwp is a good purchase
 
Subscribed to your channel and I have seen this around and now I am wanting to try it.

Thanks and great video
 
That was a VERY thorough review! Thank you! There is always some nail biting anticipation in seeing what kind of results my customers are getting in different parts of the country! I really appreciate the thought and detail that went into this writeup.

I do have a few little tips that may be of interest for getting additional protection.

1. When the material has reached saturation it won't get any darker. Thus for as long as it stays this way, you can always touch up any spots that may have absorbed more if you find any spots not being as uniform as months roll by.

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2. There is a phenomenon known as "long term soaking" and that is, if you reapply the product before it has completely faded away, the results the second time around will likely be even longer lasting than the first time. With the following picture, we are likely to see 10-12 months before it starts to fade in our climate. Not saying you will see the same thing but it's possible you will see extra months of longevity if you reapplied at 4-5 months and before it faded away.
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3. Geography/climate plays a large role in durability as well. Here in SoCal were rain is seldom and never snows lol, you can see how BWP fairs on an outdoor neglected vehicle that lives outside 24x7. Some fading has occurred but the difference is still clear.

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We are going to be implementing an Authorized Detailer program for BlackWow Pro detailers. Qualification requires passing an online test and demonstrating proficiency and in return, I will be actively marketing our product and involving detailers like yourself in servicing those customers. Anyone that's currently using our product can email us at [email protected] with your interest and you will be given details on how to participate.

Again thank you so much for the time and energy spent in producing this writeup!

Richard
 
Great review!! Perfect timing. I used BW on my neighbors Honda and it didn't work out real well. I ordered this product a few days ago...glad I did now!!
 
Not sure why anyone would want to do multiple applications and prolonged "soaking" as described in the reviews above?

I would think this would be a problem for Professional detailers, where time is money.

I use Carpro DLUX

One application

Darkens trim to original condition

Lasts at least 6 months for me on the textured, black, plastic trim of my 2009 Yukon
 
Problem with DLUX is your coating the trim, you're completely ignoring the core of the issue as porous trim such as that of the Avalanche fades from both the inside and outside. I've seen the look of both Blackwow Pro and DLUX, DLUX is great but you can tell it's coated, you may not be able to figure out with what but you know there is something on there. With BWP when it dries on the surface it looks as it did day 1, not greasy, not coated, just stock.
As a professional, quality is money. Time is a factor, but I would rather give my customers a better overall look while keeping the trim healthy. But hey, that's just me.
 
Problem with DLUX is your coating the trim, you're completely ignoring the core of the issue as porous trim such as that of the Avalanche fades from both the inside and outside. I've seen the look of both Blackwow Pro and DLUX, DLUX is great but you can tell it's coated, you may not be able to figure out with what but you know there is something on there. With BWP when it dries on the surface it looks as it did day 1, not greasy, not coated, just stock.
As a professional, quality is money. Time is a factor, but I would rather give my customers a better overall look while keeping the trim healthy. But hey, that's just me.

I have never heard this before.

Interested to learn more.
 
"After the 2nd application, I waited another 10 minutes, wiped off the excess and my friend went about his day, Prep and coating, and clean-up took about an hour. I'd say it'd take around 3 or 4 application of BWP if I was dealing with the same trim untreated originally and it would have taken 2 maybe 3 hours, not 3 weeks."

So if I understand the process:

Applied Black Wow

Applied Black Wow Pro 13 days later

Wait 10 minutes

Apply a 2nd coat of Black Wow

Wipe off excess Black Wow


"7 Months Later - Time to reapply Blackwow Pro: April 18, 2014
Here we are in April, after the worse winter in over a decade and the Avalanche is back to wrap up the test of Blackwow Pro. Blackwow seems to have all but disappeared. Trim isn't as bad as day 1, but it's taken a beating so far."




It all seems like a lot of effort for a product that lasts 7 months until it is "beat"

I searched on the forum and it looks like there are a lot of Avalanche owners who have had great success with DLUX and a ton of less than stellar reviews of Black Wow and the Beta version of Black Wow Pro.

Is it really being considered that you have to get training from the folks at Black Wow in order to become an approved Black Wow Pro Installer?
 
"After the 2nd application, I waited another 10 minutes, wiped off the excess and my friend went about his day, Prep and coating, and clean-up took about an hour. I'd say it'd take around 3 or 4 application of BWP if I was dealing with the same trim untreated originally and it would have taken 2 maybe 3 hours, not 3 weeks."

So if I understand the process:

Applied Black Wow

Applied Black Wow Pro 13 days later

Wait 10 minutes

Apply a 2nd coat of Black Wow

Wipe off excess Black Wow

7 month later

What?
 
As stated in the review, there is more than one type of trim on vehicles today. Blackwow Classic and Pro work best (In my opinion) on Porous Trim... Just incase you do not understand what Porous means - "having minute spaces or holes through which liquid or air may pass." Blackwow works by being absorbed into these pores, essentially hydrating the trim from the inside out. Non-Porous trim, again as stated in the review wouldn't benefit as much from Blackwow Classic or Pro, coatings that lie on the surface such as DLUX would be best benefited on these types. It's no different when it comes to polishes, polishers, and paint. Knowing what works in what situations is paramount in any aspect of detailing be it bare metal, paint, trim, leather/vinyl, and trim.
 
Not sure why anyone would want to do multiple applications and prolonged "soaking" as described in the reviews above?

I would think this would be a problem for Professional detailers, where time is money.

I use Carpro DLUX

One application

Darkens trim to original condition

Lasts at least 6 months for me on the textured, black, plastic trim of my 2009 Yukon

Can I call the owner of CarPro if I have a problem? Will he or she respond personally to a thread concerning their product? Is the owner of CarPro a professional detailer?

CarPro makes some excellent products and I'm sure DLUX is one of them, but for this particular application I would rather deal with Richard

Multiple applications is not a big deal for me. I charge by the hour

:D
 
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