Problem cleaning "new" tires

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My 2020 Pilot has been living in the garage since new (2 months) and hasn't been driven much at all, whatever coating the dealership put on the tires seems to be hanging in there. So yesterday I decided to do a wheel, wheel-well and tire cleaning and finally give the tires their first scrubbing.


I purchased some Tuf Shine tire cleaner (as seen here on AGO) and after a scrubbing with my tire brush and rinsing them off they were about 1/2 clean. Whatever was on there was fighting me. Also, under the coating the tires (Continental) still had the "brown bloom" all over the tire. Although the 2nd attempt seemed to remove all the "coating", a lot of the brown bloom was still there under the coating. I'm having a hard time imagining how they got like that while basically still being new?


Anyway, I'm going to hit them with a 3rd application, let it sit a bit longer and scrub a little harder. I also have about 1/2 a bottle full of Black Magic Bleche-White Tire Cleaner sitting on a shelf, would that cut it down any faster?
 
Depending on the product used by the dealer, it will probably take repeated runs of the process you are already using.

Whether it's new tires for a car I already own, or a new car with gunk smeared on the tires by a dealer, I almost never touch them for a month or too. This lets nature take its course and break down what ever is on the tires and makes them much easier to clean/dress when I do the work. They may not look very nice for a little while, but it saves me a lot of work and frustration.
 
Bleech-White is a pretty stout tire cleaner, but I'd only use it if you have the cheapo stardard steel wheels. I've seen it cloud up the clear coat on aluminum wheels and even etch bare wheels. I usually have some of it around because it is such a good cleaner.. But you've got to protect the wheels.

If you can't get rid of the browning, try a final wipe with lacquer thinner.
 
Desertnate said:
Depending on the product used by the dealer, it will probably take repeated runs of the process you are already using.

Whether it's new tires for a car I already own, or a new car with gunk smeared on the tires by a dealer, I almost never touch them for a month or too. This lets nature take its course and break down what ever is on the tires and makes them much easier to clean/dress when I do the work. They may not look very nice for a little while, but it saves me a lot of work and frustration.
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That's pretty much what I figured. Some more elbow grease and time.
 
2black1s said:
Bleech-White is a pretty stout tire cleaner, but I'd only use it if you have the cheapo stardard steel wheels. I've seen it cloud up the clear coat on aluminum wheels and even etch bare wheels. I usually have some of it around because it is such a good cleaner.. But you've got to protect the wheels.

If you can't get rid of the browning, try a final wipe with lacquer thinner.
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Thanks. I was not going to hit them with the BW unless absolutely necessary. I don't want to damage these wheels at all. I leave that stuff for the other car, LOL. If after my 3rd attempt this morning if that doesn't help I'll possibly try the lacquer thinner suggestion.
 
2black1s said:
Bleech-White is a pretty stout tire cleaner, but I'd only use it if you have the cheapo stardard steel wheels. I've seen it cloud up the clear coat on aluminum wheels and even etch bare wheels. I usually have some of it around because it is such a good cleaner.. But you've got to protect the wheels.

If you can't get rid of the browning, try a final wipe with lacquer thinner.
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Get yourself a set of these.

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When cleaning tires I can get a clean white foam after several cleanings with the TufShine brush.

I hit it with the drill brush and will get some more browning.

I’m guessing dealer coating didn’t let tires off gas so I would wait another month or even to spring before I would re coat/dress.


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I have posted this before, but about three years ago I put a major detailing mfr new all tire coating that was new for them, and it was a mess, and it wouldn’t come off with anything. I tried even using lacquer thinner, and most of the stuff mentioned above. So I called the mfr and got a hold of their tech service after a day of trying, and the guy admitted that the product was not working out like they wanted, and I ask what I could do to get my tires back to a Virgin State. He recommended tarminator by stoner. I giggled, that he would recommend somebody else’s product, and he said that it was the only one that really worked well, and that’s what they used… It worked perfectly the first time.
 
I can almost guarantee that the dealer used a solvent based, bulk quantity dressing to give the tires a "lovely" showroom shine. Most customers would be very pleased with that look and longevity. However, as you have found, these products are much harder to cleanse from the tire.

You have used probably one of the stoutest tire cleaners, repeated cleanings will yield you the results. Because the tires have been sealed up for an extended period, the brown blooming will take repeated passes to remove.

If you are still having trouble, as mentioned get some Stoners Tarminator. I occasionally need to use this on a set of extremely fickle Michelin PS3's to get them truly stripped. Spray Tarminator into a B-Grade towel (you will ruin this towel, so choose wisely) and rub the side wall aggressively.





 
I've done 3 applications of Tuf Shine and I'm starting to see rubber! I'd say I'm about 80% there. It's still frustrating having to clean them 3 or 4 times to get them where they should be. I will also be taking the advice to let them breath for a couple of weeks before applying any coating.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
Get yourself a set of these.

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When cleaning tires I can get a clean white foam after several cleanings with the TufShine brush.

I hit it with the drill brush and will get some more browning.

I’m guessing dealer coating didn’t let tires off gas so I would wait another month or even to spring before I would re coat/dress.


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To note I would clean tire now and then raw dog it for a month before applying dressing.

Using a drill tire brush (with drill) was the most useful advice I took from mike. Maked doing tires kinda fun.
 
Problem cleaning "new" tires

IME when dealing with the situation you’re describing, it’s not about how many times you clean them but more so how long it takes to finally cut through and finally get to that virgin state.

Good way to go about it with a good tire cleaner i.e. McKee’s Tire & Rubber Rejuvenator or Tuff Shine is to liberaly spray the cleaner onto the tire and scrub good but don’t rinse after just 1 go round, but instead keep scrubbing, and scrub even more… If you rinse prematurely all you’re doing is rinsing away the cleaner and wasting good product.

The best way to go about it is using a drill brush as has been suggested. Remembering not to rinse prematurely. A good tire cleaner will allow you to go a good 3x the scrubbing you would normally do on a properly maintained tire.

If anything, rinse your brush midway during the scrubbing, but not the tires as there’s plenty of life left with the amount of cleaner you initially sprayed onto the tires.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
Get yourself a set of these.

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When cleaning tires I can get a clean white foam after several cleanings with the TufShine brush.

I hit it with the drill brush and will get some more browning.

I’m guessing dealer coating didn’t let tires off gas so I would wait another month or even to spring before I would re coat/dress.


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That looks like a good kit. We'll be detailing my uncle's new Silverado project after installing the brake pads and motiv wheels this week. The tires are almost new but needs a deep cleaning.
 
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