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With so many product choices, I’m a little confused as to the best combination for that deep glossy shine I’m looking for. I have a brand new BMW with Sunset Orange Metallic paint and live in Colorado Springs, where the sun is very intense and roads get salted in winter. I’ve clayed with Wolfgang clay, put a coat of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, and have topped with Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Wax. I use Wolfgang Auto Bathe for washing and have some Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz. I’ve also ordered some Pinnacle Liquid Spray Wax for maintenance after washes. I’m wondering if I’ve got this right...should the Souveran Spray Wax be used after washes? Should the Instant Detail Spritz be used between washes? I’ve also seen on your website the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal. Does this fit in anywhere in my regimen? Seems that that is also recommended for plastic trim, headlights, and chrome on my grill. Is this better than the other products I already have? Something better that I’m missing?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
Just get a quality known brand/product

No one knows the answer to this question and majority won't be able to tell a gloss difference anyways

Use what you got and or like
 
Don’t swallow the Kool Aid. All those products are good. There is not necessarily right or wrong way or time to use them.

With those products used correctly; the only additional “shine” you will get is from polishing. Unless you just wanna buy stuff; then I’m sure someone will tell you something is better.

Liquid Seal is a nice spray sealant. Goes on everything. It doesn’t last very long though. But it smells really good. Sonax Brilliant Shine is a cheaper and better spray sealant. Can be used on everything.

So now you need to buy that, ha!
 
I have a BMW M 4 metallic grey and basically use what you have listed. You are doing just fine with those products.
 
lkaten said:
...new BMW with Sunset Orange Metallic paint
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S.O.M. paint:
I sure wouldn’t want to be the one that’s
trying to do, what you are trying to do.

Nope: I don’t envy you one bit!

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:)

Bob
 
Markymapo said:
I have a BMW M 4 metallic grey and basically use what you have listed. You are doing just fine with those products.
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Thanks Markymapo...do you mean you are also using the WG Liquid Seal?
 
lkaten said:
With so many product choices, I’m a little confused as to the best combination for that deep glossy shine I’m looking for.

I have a brand new BMW with Sunset Orange Metallic paint and live in Colorado Springs, where the sun is very intense and roads get salted in winter. I’ve clayed with Wolfgang clay, put a coat of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, and have topped with Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Wax.

I use Wolfgang Auto Bathe for washing and have some Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz.

I’ve also ordered some Pinnacle Liquid Spray Wax for maintenance after washes.

I’m wondering if I’ve got this right...should the Souveran Spray Wax be used after washes? Should the Instant Detail Spritz be used between washes? I’ve also seen on your website the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal. Does this fit in anywhere in my regimen?

Seems that that is also recommended for plastic trim, headlights, and chrome on my grill. Is this better than the other products I already have? Something better that I’m missing?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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All of the above works. Thousands of people have used the same products and pretty much done the same things.


I'd recommend getting this to wash with...

KILLER CAR WASH - Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash


Here's my original review. I used a neglected BMW for the review.


Review: Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash



Freaking amazing car wash.


:)
 
Thanks Mike,
I was thinking that an SiO2 containing product was intended more for ceramic coated paint. I'll have to give the Uber SiO2 Coating Wash a try after I run out of my Auto Bathe.
 
Another question regarding my coatings...
When I got this car from the dealer, they had "detailed" it...which I assume was a quick coat of a wax. So, before I applied Wolfgang Deep Gloss PS I washed and clayed the car. Was it a mistake for me not to remove any existing wax from the dealer with something like Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer before putting my sealant on?
 
Not a huge problem, but in the future I would remove all existing LSPs and start with a clean slate to get the best shine. Wash, iron-x, clay, wash, polish/correct, panel wipe, apply LSP.
 
Just want to be sure I’ve got it right and that SiO2 products are compatible with all that I am doing...I can use the Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash as my routine wash and continue to use Pinnacle Souveran Spray Wax over that? ...and use Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz between washes?
 
lkaten said:
Just want to be sure I’ve got it right and that SiO2 products are compatible with all that I am doing...I can use the Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash as my routine wash and continue to use Pinnacle Souveran Spray Wax over that? ...and use Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz between washes?
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yes.

Basically wax can cover just about any and everything. but not everything or even most things should be put on top of a wax. For example, most if not all sealants and ceramic coatings should be put on a clean slate. But a wax can cover just about anything without any real harm. Think about the fact that many LSPs need to adhere to the paint, and wax will basically prevent this (that's kind of what it's for haha)

Just to add to some confusion though, many of the LSPs have recommendations for what to use as a maintenance wash/wax/extender.
 
Belo said:
yes.

Basically wax can cover just about any and everything. but not everything or even most things should be put on top of a wax. For example, most if not all sealants and ceramic coatings should be put on a clean slate. But a wax can cover just about anything without any real harm. Think about the fact that many LSPs need to adhere to the paint, and wax will basically prevent this (that's kind of what it's for haha)

Just to add to some confusion though, many of the LSPs have recommendations for what to use as a maintenance wash/wax/extender.
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The chemistry of all these coatings is interesting. So, WGDGPS needs clean paint to adhere to...then a wax like Pinnacle Souveran Liquid can top it. If Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz and Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash can then make any difference in the shine and beading properties of the paint, it would seem that the polymers and SiO2 are able to pass through the wax topper to adhere to the sealant or adhere to the wax as another top layer. There must be a point where the optical properties of the paint coatings don't improve any more with more applied layers...and I wonder what the order of the coatings does to the beading properties, gloss, and depth of shine. Does it still make sense to use Pinnacle Spray Wax after every wash if I use the Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash on a regular basis? Just wondering if anybody has experimented with using these products (including the SiO2 Coating Wash) and changing up what the last applied top coat is.
 
someone said it before, if you stick with the same brand I think you'll have better luck mixing and matching because they do pretty extensive testing within their own products. everything else is a gamble.
 
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