Quick and easy tire detailing - Use water-based all-in-one rubber & vinyl cleaner/conditioners instead of tire dressings

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Quick and easy tire detailing - Use a water-based all-in-one rubber & vinyl cleaner/conditioners instead of tire dressings



Below are some before and after pictures of a car I just detailed to test out the IGL Poly Ceramic Coating and IGL Compounds & Polishes. The technique I used for the tires on this car, (to complete the detail job), is a fast and easy technique I use to clean and dress tires on a lot of cars including my own.

So I've turned this technique into an article and share not just the HOW-TO but more important the WHY-TO.



From this review

Review: IGL Poly Ceramic Coating & IGL Compounds and Polishes - GREAT ABRASIVE TECHNOLOGY


Here's a couple from the before shots of the paint that shows the tires.

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Here's how they look after machine scrubbing with a rubber/vinyl all-in-one.

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It took me about 3-4 MINUTES for each tires. Process is as simple as 3-steps...


  1. Spray rubber/vinyl cleaner onto tire sidewall.
  2. Machine scrub tire with cordless rotary with brush attached.
  3. Wipe and scrub tire sidewall with scrap rag to remove loosened grime and excess product.


Done.


A little bit of work and a huge improvement.



Here's something else to consider when cleaning and dressing your own tires.

Instead of looking for a LONG LASTING tire dressing, consider an all-in-one rubber and vinyl cleaner.

Why?

Generally speaking, long lasting tire dressings are DEDICATED dressings. This means they have no cleaning ability in and of themselves so the tires must first be pre-cleaned. No big deal, that's normal and you can do the dedicated cleaning step when washing the car. The thing about long lasting tire dressings is they tend to be solvent or oil-based, as in a silicone oil. These types of dressing last longer because they don't break-down easy with water. For example if you drive your car in the rain, or when you wash your car, the dressing will not simply mix with the water and run off the tires.

The problem with this type of dressing is because it's more difficult to remove - you cannot remove it. At least not easily.


Now follow me as I go deep....

If your car, or your customer's car is a DAILY DRIVER - the tires ARE going to get dirty. They're going to get road film on them, brake-dust and normal grime build-up. So a long lasting tire dressing doesn't stop them from getting ugly BUT a long lasting tire dressing is going to be harder to remove to REFRESH the look of your tires. This is what you want, a way to remove and then replace the tire dressing so it's fast and easy and you can quickly refresh the look of your tires.

So instead of getting a long lasting tire dressing and dealing with the mess that goes with them, get a water-based rubber/vinyl CLEANER & CONDITIONER. Because it has a cleaner, you can use IT to remove itself off your tires and at the same time it's conditioning and protecting the tire or in other words refreshing the look.


I learned this approach from Mike Pennington years ago when I was at Meguiar's. He always used Meguiar's M40 on his tires and company vehicle tires because.... it didn't last a long time. It was easy to remove an replace or refresh and thus quick and easy to always have your vehicles tires looking great.

A real out-of-the box way of thinking but it works.


The product I shared above is called Pinnacle Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner & Conditioner. It's 100% water based. Safe for use on all your interior rubber and vinyl include door gaskets, engine compartment gaskets, hatchback gaskets, and it also makes a great one-step tire cleaner and conditioner and protectant.

Heck most the time I don't even wash the tires I just machine apply this product, wipe off the excess with a scrap rag and I'm done. The next time I do this to the same tires it works even better. The more you do it, the faster and easier it gets.

This is what you want when it comes to detailing cars, fast and easy. And also consistency in results over time.


Pinnacle Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner & Conditioner





Machine scrubbing vs Hand scrubbing


You can do the same type of cleaning, conditioning and protecting by hand it's just a LOT more effective to work by machine. The human hand gets tired. The machine never gets tires.


Once you use a cordless rotary polisher to machine scrub tires you'll never look back -Mike Phillips





Machine Scrubbing


FLEX PE-150 Cordless Rotary Polisher

Heavy-Duty DA Carpet Brush – Long Bristles

Rotary 4 ¾ inch Flexible Backing Plate




Hand scrubbing

A short bristle length brush works best to hand scrub tires.

Low Profile Tire Brush





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Along those lines, I would like to see a review of Meguiars all wheel & tire waterless cleaner. Never talked about. A one step that also leaves protection & gloss on the tires.

Meguiar?s Ultimate Waterless All Wheel & Tire

I had to look at the link and must confess, that is the worst product I have purchased for being 'waterless' and something I would likely not use again on my tires.

I thought about it having value in an engine detail but not sure that it would be the correct solution to use (gather dust). It is rather oily, my guess is that it is more a solvent based product. At least that is the way it felt to the hands and reacted when doing the tires and wheels. It is not a water-based product, but that is my opinion based only from the feel of the product.

I think the Meguiars's Hyper Dressing (D170) is a good product but has no cleaning value. But it is water-based and easily applied and dried.

Sorry about the rant, but was truly disappointed in that product.
 
I had to look at the link and must confess, that is the worst product I have purchased for being 'waterless' and something I would likely not use again on my tires.


Interesting Kirby.

I have not used it before myself.

Back on topic - the product I shared works every time.

Here's another recent rig I detailed and used the same approach to clean, condition and protect the rubber tires.

Machine Polishing Mag Wheels with BLACKFIRE Metal Polish & Metal Sealant

BEFORE

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AFTER

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KISS = Keep it Simple Simon


Don't take things that should be really easy and turn them into Rocket Science.


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Mother's Back to Black Tire Renew is a good water-less tire cleaner. But be ware that it will burn the heck out of your skin if you don't wear protection.

Mothers Back to Black Tire Cleaner

It claims to leave a factory-fresh black appearance but I still hit my tires with DG#253 and my faithful flag-tipped brush.

But that's two steps, so I lose. My next AG order may include some of the Pinnacle Vinyl & Rubber.
 
Heck most the time I don't even wash the tires I just machine apply this product, wipe off the excess with a scrap rag and I'm done. The next time I do this to the same tires it works even better. The more you do it, the faster and easier it gets.

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Hey Mike -- just used some M40 I had laying around and used your method when I did a quick clean up on my DD this morning.

Very good results and dramatically shortened the tire cleaning/dressing time process.

Great tip.

Thanks Mike!


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A different take. But it might be of use to some.

First, thanks Mike. Your article led me to try this.

I have a gallon of OptiBond. I love the way it looks on a tire. I hate the way it applies. But I'm cheap and am not going to just get rid of a mostly full gallon. So, it has basically sat on the shelf.

After reading the article, I decided to play around with a few products - M40, Duragloss 253 and OptiBond. The M40 and Duragloss looked good and with your method were quicker to apply. But the Optibond looked better to me.

The problem is the time to scrub the tires clean before the OptiBond. So, to speed things up, I tried not scrubbing the tires. I washed them like you would when washing your car. Then, while still wet, wiped some Optibond @1:1 quickly around the tire(Like 5-10 seconds) to just get the product on. Next, I used the rotary brush to work it in and then wiped off with a small cotton towel.

It may not be as fast, But, it probably cut my time of using OptiBond to a third of what it was before.

Oh, and the tires I used this on were newer and had browning on them. A day later, and they look as good as the tires I scrubbed clean.

A different take. But it allowed me to use a product I really like and be a lot quicker with it.
 
Mike, can you remind me:
- which machine brush that blue one is?
- which machine brush would you use for more low profile tires (I think there’s a shorter brush you recommended before)?
- do you only use a rotary for this, or would you also use a corded DA such as GG6 or PC if no rotary was available?
- would you bother trying with a drill bit attachment for the brush if the above DAs don’t work well (or even if they do work)?
 
Mike, can you remind me:

- which machine brush that blue one is?


Normally I include links to everything I showcased at the bottom of the first page. Sometimes in the 2nd or 3rd reply - depends on how many pictures and now long I go on a topic.

Heavy-Duty DA Carpet Brush – Long Bristles




- which machine brush would you use for more low profile tires (I think there’s a shorter brush you recommended before)?


I would always use the long bristle version as it will be easier on you to use, provide flex for the tire sidewall radius and also reach into the tight space between the pavement and the bottom of the tire.



do you only use a rotary for this, or would you also use a corded DA such as GG6 or PC if no rotary was available?

If I did not have access to a rotary polisher, especially a compact size cordless rotary polisher, then I would use a tool like the Porter Cable. The PC with a Cyco brush will still do better work faster than the human hand.


I don't know if I'm the original source for showing people how to turn their Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher into a dual action tire scrubber but I have the oldest article I can DOCUMENT on this topic on the Internet.


The time stamp on this article is March 28th, 2013

Best darn tire cleaning brush I've ever used!


Here's the first video I made on this procedure dated October 25th, 2013 --> Screenshot





Rotary vs Orbital

Another benefit to this tool is that it is a rotary action, that is the brush is spun in a single direction and like all drills the power is delivered via gears, that is it is gear-driven, not free spinning. ANYONE that has ever used a Porter Cable or Griot's Garage or any copy of these two tools to machine scrub tires knows two things,


1: Just like polishing paint with a free spinning polisher you have to turn the speed up to the highest setting and pay attention to how you hold the polisher to maintain BRUSH rotation. Not so with this cordless tool, it's gear driven and the brush always spins.

2: When you use an orbital polisher to machine scrub the portion of the tire that's close to the concrete, the reciprocating backing on the brush bangs into the ground and makes a horrible sound plus vibrates the heck out of your hands. Not so with this cordless tool.​


Machine scrubbing your tires is the only way to go....




- would you bother trying with a drill bit attachment for the brush if the above DAs don’t work well (or even if they do work)?


Because a drill is basically a rotary polisher, just in a pistol style design, you bet I'd use a cordless drill. Next time I clean tires I'll show this option. Direct drive rotary always trumps free spinning orbital when it comes to machine scrubbing tires. Even when scrubbing most other things. Cordless is the key if you're working around water.

I wouldn't even get the drill bit attachment or adapter - I would purchase a Cyclo brush, probably the Aqua for tires - and then insert the 5/16" threaded spindle, (on the back of the Cyclo brush), and tight up the chuck and cream-out the threads. I'm never going to use it any other way so I don't need to or care if I "protect" the threads. The brush by default becomes my "drill-only" brush.



Good questions - thank you for asking.



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Mike, me being mobile would this be a good product to use?

From what I understand, you simply spray tire and clean it? Then clean with a microfiber towel? If I’m wrong feel free to educate me.


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Mike, me being mobile would this be a good product to use?

From what I understand, you simply spray tire and clean it? Then clean with a microfiber towel? If I’m wrong feel free to educate me.

Here's how I do it,

Spray on tire
Machine scrub
Wipe off excess gunk with COTTON SCRAP RAG

I don't use microfiber towels for this type of thing. Normal cotton towels, or what I call Scrap Rags, are more STOUT and work better PLUS the tire doesn't care if the towel you use is "soft and gentle".


To be honest, for doing mobile detailing - if you're not going to see the customer's car again, or at least not for a while, then you should be applying a solvent or oil based tire dressing that will last a LOT longer.

The products I'm recommending are less for detailers and more for enthusiasts who - because they own the car - can repeat the process to renew the nice look.


Make sense?


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To be honest, for doing mobile detailing - if you're not going to see the customer's car again, or at least not for a while, then you should be applying a solvent or oil based tire dressing that will last a LOT longer.

The products I'm recommending are less for detailers and more for enthusiasts who - because they own the car - can repeat the process to renew the nice look.

What would be an example of one of these solvent/oil based dressings that last long, sold here in AG? The PBMG offerings are all water based to my knowledge. Does Meguiar’s have some oil based?
 
What would be an example of one of these solvent/oil based dressings that last long, sold here in AG? The PBMG offerings are all water based to my knowledge. Does Meguiar’s have some oil based?

I believe has Griots several offerings one being aerosol. Also mothers back to black tire shine?


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To be honest, for doing mobile detailing - if you're not going to see the customer's car again, or at least not for a while, then you should be applying a solvent or oil based tire dressing that will last a LOT longer.

The products I'm recommending are less for detailers and more for enthusiasts who - because they own the car - can repeat the process to renew the nice look.

Thanks for that honest tip.

Oddly enough, almost all the cars I've done for people have been "car guys" and are NOT into shiny tires. I have a ton of Megs Hyper Dressing sitting on a shelf. :laughing:
 
@Mike,
I like the Meguiar’s endurance tire gel. I would buy it again.


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