Quick Question

[landonew]

I'm about to order a PC 7424 with the white, gray, and red pads (lake county CCS). I plan to use this to detail my truck, which has a new paint job (2 stage, less than 5 months old).

All I'm really looking to do is get the surface cleaned/preped, and then apply a sealant that will last a long time. It doesn't need to be the best shine, but just something that protects the finish. BTW, I have detailed smaller cars by hand in the past and know that I don't need the PC for this job, but would prefer to use the PC to save time.

Here is my plan:

(1) Wash/dry
(2) clay
(3) tape off trim and gaps
(4) apply McGuire's new car glaze using PC w/ white pad
(5) remove glaze using PC w/ bonnet + lambswool leveling pad
(6) Apply Klass All-in-one using PC w/ gray pad
(7) remove Klass All-in-one using PC w/ bonnet + lambswool leveling pad
(8) Apply Klass sealant glaze using PC w/ red pad
(9) Remove Klass sealant glaze using PC w/ bonnet + lambswool leveling pad


Does this sound like a reasonable approach? I'm wondering rather steps 4 and 6 are duplicative, and if so would it be ok to skik the McGuire's new car glaze? Also, I'm wondering if I should swap out the McGuire's new car glaze for McGuire's mirror glaze, seeing as though I live in a relatively dry climate (DFW).

I'd prefer to only do this once every six months, so any advice on how to lengthen the time between coats would be appreciated. Also, I'm not really interested in applying a coat of Carnauba wax, unless it would make the sealant last significantly longer.

 

[HeavyMetal]

The Klasse All-In-One has polish in it so it will polish off the Meg's Glaze. Also, since the AIO has a sealant in it (hence the all in one name), why are you coming back with more sealant?

You also might want to do a search on all-in-one products. While I don't use them, many here prefer Optimum Poli-Seal rather than Klasse.

You might want to consider topping with Collinite 845 - the stuff is very durable. In fact, you might just want to get a dedicated polish and use 845 as the sealant. Many here do that.

I also prefer to remove polishes, sealants and waxes by hand; it's just easier.

 

[landonew]

The Klasse All-In-One has polish in it so it will polish off the Meg's Glaze. Also, since the AIO has a sealant in it (hence the all in one name), why are you coming back with more sealant?

You also might want to do a search on all-in-one products. While I don't use them, many here prefer Optimum Poli-Seal rather than Klasse.

You might want to consider topping with Collinite 845 - the stuff is very durable. In fact, you might just want to get a dedicated polish and use 845 as the sealant. Many here do that.

I also prefer to remove polishes, sealants and waxes by hand; it's just easier.

I was under the impression that the klasse AIO was commonly used with the klass sealant glaze to achieve a more durable sealent (e.g. often referred to as the "Klasse twins"?).

Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "polish off the Meg's Glaze"? I was under the impression that the Meg's glaze is a polish? Isn't a glaze just a polish with minimal cut/abrassive qualities? Perhaps you mean that the klasse AIO has more cut than the Meg's glaze.

 

[embolism]

KAIO's sealant is not very durable. It's a great product for it's chemical cleaning abilities but it will clean that glaze right off so like HM said, after clay, you can go right into KAIO with a polishing or waxing pad. It doesn't really dust so if you are careful, you can get away without taping the gaps. I'd still tape the trim though in case you forget and lift the pad while it's spinning. Product usage should be on the heavy side, prob 2-3 oz for your whole truck. After that, put on ksg (use a spritz bottle and foam hand applicator & keep it whisper thin) or 845 and you are done.

like HM, I prefer to remove my product by hand with a paint grade MF

 

[HeavyMetal]

I was under the impression that the klasse AIO was commonly used with the klass sealant glaze to achieve a more durable sealent (e.g. often referred to as the "Klasse twins"?).

Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "polish off the Meg's Glaze"? I was under the impression that the Meg's glaze is a polish? Isn't a glaze just a polish with minimal cut/abrassive qualities? Perhaps you mean that the klasse AIO has more cut than the Meg's glaze.

You can come back with the Klasse sealant but you said you wanted something that would last about 6 months. As embolism noted, AIO isn't the most durable, but it should last that long.

Meg's New Car Glaze is a cleaner polish and glaze with no abrasives. AIO is a cleaner polish and sealant with no abrasives. The AIO will remove the glaze portion.

Be aware that since neither the Meg's nor the AIO have any abrasives, you won't remove any swirls, hazing or hairlines in the finish.

If I was doing this and wanted to get a nice finish w/o spending a bunch of bucks, I'd go with Meg's Ultimate Polish, Poli-Seal or Pinnacle XMT 360 followed by Collinite 845. The UP, Poli-Seal and XMT all are or contain very mild abrasive polishes so they'll remove light swirls and hairlines. The Poli-Seal and XMT also are AIO's so they contain a sealant. Top that with 845 which is a carnuba/polymer hybrid and you'll have a pretty darn durable finish.

 

[landonew]

The Klasse All-In-One has polish in it so it will polish off the Meg's Glaze. Also, since the AIO has a sealant in it (hence the all in one name), why are you coming back with more sealant?

You also might want to do a search on all-in-one products. While I don't use them, many here prefer Optimum Poli-Seal rather than Klasse.

You might want to consider topping with Collinite 845 - the stuff is very durable. In fact, you might just want to get a dedicated polish and use 845 as the sealant. Many here do that.

I also prefer to remove polishes, sealants and waxes by hand; it's just easier.

You can come back with the Klasse sealant but you said you wanted something that would last about 6 months. As embolism noted, AIO isn't the most durable, but it should last that long.

Meg's New Car Glaze is a cleaner polish and glaze with no abrasives. AIO is a cleaner polish and sealant with no abrasives. The AIO will remove the glaze portion.

Be aware that since neither the Meg's nor the AIO have any abrasives, you won't remove any swirls, hazing or hairlines in the finish.

If I was doing this and wanted to get a nice finish w/o spending a bunch of bucks, I'd go with Meg's Ultimate Polish, Poli-Seal or Pinnacle XMT 360 followed by Collinite 845. The UP, Poli-Seal and XMT all are or contain very mild abrasive polishes so they'll remove light swirls and hairlines. The Poli-Seal and XMT also are AIO's so they contain a sealant. Top that with 845 which is a carnuba/polymer hybrid and you'll have a pretty darn durable finish.

Thanks for your input. I think I'll go with Meg's Ultimate Polish (as I've used that before, and have some at the house) and then Collinite 845. Since the UP is not a pure polish, would you recommend going with a sealent in-between the UP and collinite? For instance, mcguire's synthetic sealent.

Also, should I apply the collinite with the PC? I'll take your advice on product removal.

 

[Ted S.]

KAIO is a great chemical cleaner and polish. KSG would work over the top because it would improve the look/durability. I've not used KSG yet. I have used Collinite #845 (not a sealant) over the KAIO; two coats is unbelievable!!

Right now I have one coat of KAIO, two coats of Collinite for durability, and two coats of P21s Concours for looks. Water just jumps off it!
:xyxthumbs:

 

[HeavyMetal]

You can go with a sealant before the Colli, but Colli is pretty darn durable stuff on it's own. It depends on how much effort and expense you want to put in for a little more durability. If this is a work truck, I'd just go with the Colli and figure on re-waxing it maybe every 4 - 6 months depending on weather, if the truck's outside or garage kept, how often you wash, etc.

Apply 845 with a grey, red or blue pad. Apply it VERY THIN. Maybe 5 - 8 drops on the pad at first and then 3 -4 drops per panel thereafter. Buff off by hand with a mf towel.