Quickest way to remove BFWD before winterizing

[onlycodered]

Hey all,

I'm going to be winterizing my car in a bit and I'd like to know what the quickest and easiest route would be to remove my current one layer of BFWD that I've had on for 2-3 months.

I'll be applying another two coats of BFWD and possibly top it off with Collinite 845 (if I can scrounge up for more cash to pick some up). I have Optimum Power Clean arriving in a few days and I also have P21S Total Auto Wash. Wondering if I could remove the current LSP with these?

My issue is that on the weekends it's either raining or I'm working on someone else's car so I only have a window of a couple hours after work during the work week in order to winterize my car.

Any ideas? Thanks guys!

 

[FASTFRED]

Hey all,

I'm going to be winterizing my car in a bit and I'd like to know what the quickest and easiest route would be to remove my current one layer of BFWD that I've had on for 2-3 months.

I'll be applying another two coats of BFWD and possibly top it off with Collinite 845 (if I can scrounge up for more cash to pick some up). I have Optimum Power Clean arriving in a few days and I also have P21S Total Auto Wash. Wondering if I could remove the current LSP with these?

My issue is that on the weekends it's either raining or I'm working on someone else's car so I only have a window of a couple hours after work during the work week in order to winterize my car.

Any ideas? Thanks guys!

You could clay bar the car that would remove the sealant.

 

[alko]

I'm getting ready to winterize my car this weekend. I'll probably be washing with Dawn and then claying the car. I think that will suffice.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I have Optimum Power Clean arriving in a few days and I also have P21S Total Auto Wash. Wondering if I could remove the current LSP with these?

Either of those would be fine, or the clay suggestion. Or simply do an IPA wipedown after your wash. Clay is always a reasonable idea before applying LSP--just make sure you do some sort of cleaning step to remove the clay lube before your important winter prep.

 

[tuscarora dave]

My issue is that on the weekends it's either raining or I'm working on someone else's car so I only have a window of a couple hours after work during the work week in order to winterize my car.

Any ideas? Thanks guys!

I have the same dilemma preventing me from doing the work on my own car. Luckily I have this coming weekend unscheduled and the weather is finally looking great so my car is getting a PO85RD finish polishing and a coat of Opti-Coat 2.0

With 3 months of weather and wear already on your current coat of BFWD claying should be all that it needed to remove the rest of it.

 

[RaskyR1]

Wash, clay if needed, then use a pre-wax cleaner.


May not be the quickest, but it's the best method IMO and it will leave you paint looking better too.

 

[galaxy]

Or clay and a quick once-over with M205 on a non-aggressive pad. Nice and noticeable what a quick once-ove with the polish does. Plus it will definately accomplish your goal.

I actually just did te same thing...wanted to do my winter routine while it's still nice...two layers of BFWD and topped with XMT 180. Don't know why I have the uncontrollable urge to top BFWD with anything at all; I just can't control it, LOL!

 

[truckbutt]

Hey all,

I'm going to be winterizing my car in a bit and I'd like to know what the quickest and easiest route would be to remove my current one layer of BFWD that I've had on for 2-3 months.

Do a wipe down with Klean Strip - Prep All. Appy your new BFWD. That is your quickest and easiest. I avoid IPA. It can damage paint. If you want to spend some more time and improve the surface first, use a finishing pad and P085RD before the wipedown.

 

[onlycodered]

Do a wipe down with Klean Strip - Prep All. Appy your new BFWD. That is your quickest and easiest. I avoid IPA. It can damage paint. If you want to spend some more time and improve the surface first, use a finishing pad and P085RD before the wipedown.

Best suggestion yet! Can't wait to try Klean Strip. Just picked some up. I'm assuming I shouldn't dilute it?

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[Old Pirate]

You could clay bar the car that would remove the sealant.

I'm getting ready to winterize my car this weekend. I'll probably be washing with Dawn and then claying the car. I think that will suffice.

Either of those would be fine, or the clay suggestion. Or simply do an IPA wipedown after your wash. Clay is always a reasonable idea before applying LSP--just make sure you do some sort of cleaning step to remove the clay lube before your important winter prep.

Wash, clay if needed, then use a pre-wax cleaner.


May not be the quickest, but it's the best method IMO and it will leave you paint looking better too.

These are will do the job your looking for.rops:

 

[truckbutt]

Best suggestion yet! Can't wait to try Klean Strip. Just picked some up. I'm assuming I shouldn't dilute it?

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Use it straight up. Just dampen a MF towel. Then go to the BFWD. It leaves no haze or residue.

 

[BobbyG]

Do a wipe down with Klean Strip - Prep All. Appy your new BFWD. That is your quickest and easiest. I avoid IPA. It can damage paint. If you want to spend some more time and improve the surface first, use a finishing pad and P085RD before the wipedown.

You just can't argue with fact!! rops:

 

[onlycodered]

Just a follow-up on this. I actually forgot I had taken the day off yesterday due to having a wisdom tooth pulled. After getting back from the dentist at around 10 AM I decided I was going to do work on prepping my car for the winter. Thinking back I'm not sure if this was the best idea as my mouth was still in quite a bit of pain but this shows you how dedicated I am to this stuff! Hahaha

Anyways, what I ended up doing is using M205 with a Meguiar's microfiber finishing pad before using Klean Strip Prep All and applying my two coats of BFWD. About 3/4 of the way through polishing I noticed there were very, very light holograms. I decided to finish the rest of the car since it was getting late and I'll be polishing again in the spring.

After I finished my winter prep I hopped on AGO to see if I could figure out why I ended up with holograms. I believe I found my answer. On the M205 bottle it says to do 2-3 passes with medium pressure and then another 2 passes with very light pressure. I did this but I'm wondering if I was doing it a little bit too lightly. This may have caused the polish to not break down enough since it is a SMAT product. Also doesn't help that this is Honda paint which is HORRIBLY SOFT.

Anyway I learned my lesson and I'll be doing some more extensive testing on this theory when spring comes around. I may just skip using M205 though and go right to trying out my new D151 I just picked up. Only problem with that product is that I'd rather not have it lay down a layer of wax!

Oh well, we shall see. Thanks for listening to my rant.

 

[Rsurfer]

This may have caused the polish to not break down enough since it is a SMAT product.

SMAT does not break down.:xyxthumbs:

 

[onlycodered]

SMAT does not break down.:xyxthumbs:

I guess I should have read up a bit more on SMAT before letting my tongue fly free! After reading a few more forum posts I've found that I may be working the product too long which would cause it to create holograms.

 

[RaskyR1]

Just a follow-up on this. I actually forgot I had taken the day off yesterday due to having a wisdom tooth pulled. After getting back from the dentist at around 10 AM I decided I was going to do work on prepping my car for the winter. Thinking back I'm not sure if this was the best idea as my mouth was still in quite a bit of pain but this shows you how dedicated I am to this stuff! Hahaha

Anyways, what I ended up doing is using M205 with a Meguiar's microfiber finishing pad before using Klean Strip Prep All and applying my two coats of BFWD. About 3/4 of the way through polishing I noticed there were very, very light holograms. I decided to finish the rest of the car since it was getting late and I'll be polishing again in the spring.

After I finished my winter prep I hopped on AGO to see if I could figure out why I ended up with holograms. I believe I found my answer. On the M205 bottle it says to do 2-3 passes with medium pressure and then another 2 passes with very light pressure. I did this but I'm wondering if I was doing it a little bit too lightly. This may have caused the polish to not break down enough since it is a SMAT product. Also doesn't help that this is Honda paint which is HORRIBLY SOFT.

Anyway I learned my lesson and I'll be doing some more extensive testing on this theory when spring comes around. I may just skip using M205 though and go right to trying out my new D151 I just picked up. Only problem with that product is that I'd rather not have it lay down a layer of wax!

Oh well, we shall see. Thanks for listening to my rant.

Your micro marring, not holograms, likely came from the MF finishing pad. MF tends to be a bit more aggressive then foam and on soft/delicate paints such as yours, foam will be the best bet for finishing. M205 on a LC crimson pad should work very well.

Want to take it up a notch? Rather than make 2-3 passes with medium pressure and then 2 passes with light pressure try this instead....

Make your 2-3 passes with moderate pressure, quickly clean the pad with air, brush, or towel, reduce speed to 3 and then make 1-2 more quick passes with moderate pressure without adding more product. This method stems from Kevin Brown "Pad Priming and Supplemental Wetting" Agents article, and Todd Helme has written a nice in depth write up of the method over on AutopiaForums.

Tips to acheive a flawless finish with M205 and a DA polisher - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum


Rasky

 

[JSFM35x]

Hey all,

I'm going to be winterizing my car in a bit and I'd like to know what the quickest and easiest route would be to remove my current one layer of BFWD that I've had on for 2-3 months.

I'll be applying another two coats of BFWD and possibly top it off with Collinite 845 (if I can scrounge up for more cash to pick some up). I have Optimum Power Clean arriving in a few days and I also have P21S Total Auto Wash. Wondering if I could remove the current LSP with these?

My issue is that on the weekends it's either raining or I'm working on someone else's car so I only have a window of a couple hours after work during the work week in order to winterize my car.

Any ideas? Thanks guys!

For the winter, I would not clay or polish (or remove LSP) since you will most likely do it after the winter. Iron X or Iron Cut it, wash and BFWD 2X. My 2 cents.