Real World Ceramic Coating Test by Mike Phillips

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Real World Ceramic Coating Test by Mike Phillips


After using and writing reviews for these two products,

Review: Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating

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Review: Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant

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I've been asked numerous times,

How long will this product last?


Of course my simple answer is shared in this article,

How long will a ceramic coating last on my car?


But because it is a good question as far as these two products are concerned I'm happy to apply both to one half of the hood of my car as well as a third coating and Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant and then simply let some time go by as well as the normal way I would wash and dry or wipe this car. If you read my article above, that's what it says,



How is the car washed? Or in other words, How is the car touched?





Real World Testing

Some of the cars I use products on, in fact a lot of them - I'll never see again. Also, some of the cars I work on, and in fact most of them are Garage Queens, like the 1967 Camaro in the above review for Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant. That is a true show car and most of it's life it's going to be inside a Man Cave owned by my buddy John. So to try to show how long the product will last on this type of car is not real world.


Mundane Daily Driver - Real-world Exposure

My own mundane daily driver does is in fact parked outside, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in the hot South Florida sunshine. The ONLY time it gets some shade is partially on the driver's side and here at work after about 2:00pm and the building cast shade on the front of the car. But all-in-all, the car is parked outside and tortured by the sun. Here's some pictures to show how it's parked at home. (it is never actually parked under the awning as my wife's car is parked under the awning)


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So today I'll clay and machine polish the hood on the Golden Eagle and then apply 3 different coatings to the passenger side half of the hood.

On the driver's side of the hood I'll apply the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.


Stay tuned....

And for what it's worth, I've done LOTS of product testing in my life, much of it when I was at Meguiar's. While it's interesting, I kind of got over it because most quality brands will perform as advertised as long as the collective "WE" read and then follow the directions. Then after that, like mentioned above, WASH, DRY AND TOUCH THE CAR CAREFULLY.


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Looking forward to it. I’ll be doing a similar test that can represent Northeast spring/summer.
 
:updated:


I went out to the garage and prepped the hood of my car and then went through the steps to correctly do some side-by-side testing. Hopefully this will show some longevity results that will answer everyone's questions and help them to decide which products our best for their cars and their detailing style.

To remove any chance of previously applied products I'll machine sand my hood with Mirka Abralon #4000

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Here's lightly sanded....

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Now I'll machine compound with a rotary buffer and wool pad to remove 100% of my sanding marks....

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Here's sanded before side

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Here's machine compounded after side,

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Removing the tape - Technique Tip - always pull slow and low at an angle...

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Here's what all of the paint will look like after compound and polishing - then I'll chemically strip the paint 3 times.

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Will chemically strip using GTechiqu Panel Wipe, GYEON Prep and Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep - after chemically stripping 3 times.

I think it will be safe to assume we are down to bare-naked paint.

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Next I'll machine apply the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant to the driver's side. Note: It was chemically stripped 3 times also.

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Cover-up towel over the side-by-side testing section to prevent any splatter dots or product sling while machine applying the WG Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.

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Brand new bottle of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0

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Using a Lake Country 6.5" black soft foam finishing pad on speed 2 of the FLEX cordless Finisher.

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Here's a thin layer of Deep Gloss Paint Sealant drying....

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On this side I've taped off 3 equal sections for the side-by-side testing. I'm going to use an CarPro CQuartz as a benchmark for a traditional ceramic paint coating. The reason I chose this products was,

A: I already had a un-opened bottle.
B: It's as I like to say, an established brand.
C: I wanted to test the other two products against a non-house brand.

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Top section = CarPro CQuartz Ceramic Paint Coating

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Middle section = Wolfgang Uber Si02 Spray Coating

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Bottom Section = Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant

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This lowest section is bare-naked paint. After chemically stripping I did nothing else to it.

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Before applying the CQuartz and the Wolfgang Uber Si02 Spray Coating, I'll first machine apply the Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant. The reason why is the directions state to wait 15 to 20 minutes before wiping off and while I'm waiting I can apply the CQuartz and the Wolfgang Uber Si02 Spay Coating.

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Took this pictures after applying the Si02 paint sealant

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It's hard to see but there's a thin film of sealant drying in the test section - it's almost turned clear.

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Time to wipe-off....

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And at this point I have applied and removed,

  • CarPro CQuartz Ceramic Paint Coating
  • Wolfgang Uber Si02 Spray Coating
  • Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant
  • Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0


Each product has been applied and removed according to the manufactures directions. The paint has been thoroughly and properly prepped for a real-world test.

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And today's date - Monday, March 30th, 2020 around 2:30pm

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The Golden Eagle

The mundane daily driver is now ready to be put back into service as a vehicle that is used and parked outside, exposed to the sun and rain 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

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I have not decided on how often to wash the hood/car but I figure every other week. Was planning on using a pure soap meant for washing coatings. I have some GYEON Bathe around here somewhere, that would should keep the test un-biased.


Thoughts? Suggestions? Questions?



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Thanks for the test Mike.

May I ask why Mike Phillips' car is the odd man out for the covered parking?? ;)
 
Okay Mike,

You have out done all of the YouTubers that test their panels! LOL,

Doing the wet sanding with 4000-grit is absolutely the extreme method to prove you have a clean bare surface. Maybe you have started a trend, but probably not.

Gyeon Bath is a great soap, or so I have heard, never have tried it yet. That will keep the test truly a 'real world' experience and one that supports the AG as supplier for all the great products.

Thanks for taking on this challenge for the team!
 
Okay Mike,

You have out done all of the YouTubers that test their panels! LOL,


Doing the wet sanding with 4000-grit is absolutely the extreme method to prove you have a clean bare surface. Maybe you have started a trend, but probably not.

Hey if it helps them with whatever they do, it's all good.

Like I mentioned above, there was a time when I did a LOT of testing for products. I often do compound and polishing testing for companies. I've always shared this stuff on the forum but with 45,503+ Posts on this forum, it can be a tick difficult to find any specific thing I've posted without the right keywords. :)


Not sure if it's a good thing but I've been testing products probably longer than some on the Internet. :laughing:


Big Picture being, I'm pretty good at testing stuff in a real work scenario. Doing doomsday type stuff is ridiculous because people in the real world are never going to do that kind of stuff. It's more sensationalism than anything else.

:props:


Gyeon Bath is a great soap, or so I have heard, never have tried it yet. That will keep the test truly a 'real world' experience and one that supports the AG as supplier for all the great products.


I have a review for the soap and the mitts. I can't find it.

I'll send the mitts to anyone that kind find my review. :)




Thanks for taking on this challenge for the team!

All in a day's car wax work.


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Subscribed. :props:

Proper testing huh. I’m looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Being an Authorized CQuartz Installer obviously I have an interest in how the CQuartz coating holds up against the others but indeed as a detailer - the entire test is intriguing. Way to go Mike!!! :props:


Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:
 
I have a review for the GYEON soap and the mitts. I can't find it.

I'll send the mitts to anyone that kind find my review. :)


After much searching, I could not find a review for the GYEON Bathe car wash soap. I know I have one for the mitts though.

I think I confused this review for the GYEON product.


Review: Gtechniq G-Wash


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Subscribed. :props:

Proper testing huh. I’m looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Being an Authorized Quart Installer obviously I have an interest in how the CQuartz coating holds up against the others but indeed as a detailer - the entire test is intriguing.


I wanted to use an established actual coating as a comparison that no one would question the reputation of and I could have used a half dozen brands. I just had an unopened bottle of the CQuartz.


The test is to see which of the Wolfgang products lasts longer as that was the question I was asked. My suspicions are any "actual" or conventional coating as in, tiny glass bottle applied using a foam block with a microfiber suede patch of cloth, will last longer than the spray or the sealant products.

The features and/or claim of the spray and sealant products isn't that they will last longer than a conventional coating but that they are faster and easier to use than a conventional product and this I can attest to.

If a person wants to invest in the time, patience, energy and work to apply a conventional coating that last a long time the BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Paint Coating is a coating that can only be removed via compounding or polishing.


I'm working from home today and the Golden Eagle is parked outside exposed to the world and it's going to be hot today. I'll measure the surface temperature sometime this afternoon.


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This is gonna be good! Thanks for taking on this test for everybody Mike. Without a doubt to be one of the best tests to show real world durability and serve as a testament to Deep Gloss Paint Sealant. Never used myself but I know it’s been favorite amongst many on AGO and the larger detailing community.

Excited to see the hood temps, even on a champagne colored car, Florida sun is gonna make a frying pan out of the hood.. heck it’s already got the “non-stick” coating applied!
 
Subscribed! I like this test because not only can you compare water beading, but you can also see performance against water spots, bird bombs, bugs, and heat. You can also watch how quick and easy the hood is clean.

All of the cars I take care of are daily drivers and the truth is what their owners notice after a maintenance wash is if the car is shiny, if all the droppings, bugs, and spots are gone, and if the glass is clean. The savvy people with darker-colored cars also keep their eye on swirls. So while water beading can be fun for me, I gravitate towards LSPs that give that extra protection and make maintenance easy.
 
Cool test. That sanding is hardcore! I’m really worried about your control section and the taped off areas! I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night!


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This is gonna be good! Thanks for taking on this test for everybody Mike. Without a doubt to be one of the best tests to show real world durability and serve as a testament to Deep Gloss Paint Sealant. Never used myself but I know it’s been favorite amongst many on AGO and the larger detailing community.

It's been a while since I used the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 - but yesterday when wiping it off, (after it fully dried), I remembered at least one reason people like it so much and that's because besides wiping off super easy it also leaves the paint incredibly slick and slippery.



Excited to see the hood temps, even on a champagne colored car, Florida sun is gonna make a frying pan out of the hood.. heck it’s already got the “non-stick” coating applied!


I know it gets redundant when I say or type this but,

I have an article on this topic,


Black Car Paint Temperature in Full Sun
(And a few other colors too)


The Sun

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Yesterday would be Day 1 of the longevity testing. I took these pictures at around 1:00pm to show the heat temperatures the paint is exposed to for the outside temperature shown from the screenshot of my weather app on my phone.

Of course surface temperature will vary day to day this does show what the hood/paint temperature is for at least some idea of what full exposure to the sun is like for a light gold metallic paint finish. It also rained last night.

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Passenger side of hood exposed to full sun all day.

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This isn't the best Infrared Thermal Measuring tool on the market but it's all I have on-hand. Regardless of how accurate it is or isn't , it does give of some level of insight to surface temps.

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122 degrees Fahrenheit

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I don't see a need to update this thread for at least 2-4 weeks, basically the first time I wash the car. We're under a 14 day quarantine for safety and exposure reasons in our area, so won't be going outside much anyways.


Stay tuned....


:)
 
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