Really Need Help With Urine Smell In Seat. Trying Hard To Help This Person Out.

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So I have this car that has been in contact with urine a few times in the driver seat. The person has a medical issue. I am trying like hell to help and I am not sure that anything I have done has helped yet. So far I have have done this:

1) Sprayed the dry seat and carpet with Natures Miracle (enzyme) and let that sit for about 3 hours and then as I cleaned the rest of the car.
2) Used my steamer to heat up the cushion several times over. Hoping to kill bacteria and bring everything to the surface.
3) used my extractor on the seat about 5 times. Alternating with heat from steam first before extracting.
4) Last night at about this time I Soaked the seat and carpet with Natures Miracle and left it to dry... which is still drying now.
5) I added two air movers tonight and I pointed them directly at the carpet and the other one directly on the seat. To help with drying and to hopefully air it out.

I plan to use the ozone machine on it ... but I dont think it is going to help much as I believe there is still quite a bit in the cushion as I can still smell it.

I feel like I have thrown a lot at this and yet I don't think it's any better. Maybe it will be after it dries?? I don't know.

Has anyone ran into this before and if so anyone have any ideas on what to do to resole this?

Thank you!
 
It appears its deep into the foam cushion. Doesn't sound like an enzyme or ozone machine can reach that deep down.

Replace or reupholster the seat.
 
That's what I was thinking .. I did tell her that the extractor will not pull from that deep and that there is no promise that I can get it .. but I was hoping to at least improve it. However I did soak the hell out of that with the enzyme stuff. I thought for sure that would help ... but it doesn't seem to be yet. I feel like something is hitting it as it has gotten a little worse I think due to it being wet.

Maybe natures miracle isn't the best stuff to use for this?
 
RMarkJr said:
That's what I was thinking .. I did tell her that the extractor will not pull from that deep and that there is no promise that I can get it .. but I was hoping to at least improve it. However I did soak the hell out of that with the enzyme stuff. I thought for sure that would help ... but it doesn't seem to be yet. I feel like something is hitting it as it has gotten a little worse I think due to it being wet.

Maybe natures miracle isn't the best stuff to use for this?
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Don't know what it is, but you need an enzyme to kill the bacteria. Check with a janitorial supply or hospital supply store.
 
Rsurfer said:
Don't know what it is, but you need an enzyme to kill the bacteria. Check with a janitorial supply or hospital supply store.
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Thanks I will have to call around tomorrow and see if there is anything better than the enzyme in Nature's Miracle. Got to be something.
 
HD sells Simple Green D One-Step Germicidal Cleaner & Deodorant. Not sure it will remove all of the smell, but I've used it on some nasty things and have had great results.
It may vause some discoloration.
It's about $13 for a gallon.

You could also try leaving a dry substance on the seat to absorb moisture such as, naking soda, or salt.
 
Just a thought but is it possible to remove the seat and see if there is a way to attack it from the bottom of the cushion or the chair. Maybe it went all the way through and is in some underside lining?


RMarkJr said:
So I have this car that has been in contact with urine a few times in the driver seat. The person has a medical issue. I am trying like hell to help and I am not sure that anything I have done has helped yet. So far I have have done this:

1) Sprayed the dry seat and carpet with Natures Miracle (enzyme) and let that sit for about 3 hours and then as I cleaned the rest of the car.
2) Used my steamer to heat up the cushion several times over. Hoping to kill bacteria and bring everything to the surface.
3) used my extractor on the seat about 5 times. Alternating with heat from steam first before extracting.
4) Last night at about this time I Soaked the seat and carpet with Natures Miracle and left it to dry... which is still drying now.
5) I added two air movers tonight and I pointed them directly at the carpet and the other one directly on the seat. To help with drying and to hopefully air it out.

I plan to use the ozone machine on it ... but I dont think it is going to help much as I believe there is still quite a bit in the cushion as I can still smell it.

I feel like I have thrown a lot at this and yet I don't think it's any better. Maybe it will be after it dries?? I don't know.

Has anyone ran into this before and if so anyone have any ideas on what to do to resole this?

Thank you!
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If you get the smell out or the customer decides on cushion and cover replacement I suggest a neoprene seat cover to prevent it from happening again.
 
expdetailing said:
HD sells Simple Green D One-Step Germicidal Cleaner & Deodorant. Not sure it will remove all of the smell, but I've used it on some nasty things and have had great results.
It may vause some discoloration.
It's about $13 for a gallon.

You could also try leaving a dry substance on the seat to absorb moisture such as, naking soda, or salt.
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Thanks I will have to look into getting some and trying it out. I don't think this Natures Miracle stuff is real strong.
 
irvsmith said:
Just a thought but is it possible to remove the seat and see if there is a way to attack it from the bottom of the cushion or the chair. Maybe it went all the way through and is in some underside lining?
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I like the way you think! I have already decided not to give up and I did take the seat out (my first seat removal) and flipped it upside down. It did go all the way through and smelled pretty bad still. I soaked the seat all the way through with water and vinegar this time. I let it sit for a bit and then sat it right side up. Got it even wetter to try and flush it a little bit.

I did use a special flat rectangle attachment for the shop vac that pulls water deeper than just the hose or extractor will do .. So I did that a lot and I got two air movers on it right now.

Soaked the carpet as well and used that attachment to suck it out as much as possible. Got an air mover on that too.

So I am just waiting for it all to dry now and see how it goes. HAS to be a little better after this if nothing else!
 
Farmallluvr said:
If you get the smell out or the customer decides on cushion and cover replacement I suggest a neoprene seat cover to prevent it from happening again.
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I will bring that up to her. She was asking about that earlier today actually... plus need something for the carpet behind the seat as well .. as it was enough to go between the crevice of the front seat and onto the carpet under.
 
Definitely no more steam or extraction, it'll keep coming back. Multiple rounds of an enzyme killer should work. It may take a few days because it will have to dry properly every time, but you'll notice the smell will get less and less.
 
Mad Wax said:
Definitely no more steam or extraction, it'll keep coming back. Multiple rounds of an enzyme killer should work. It may take a few days because it will have to dry properly every time, but you'll notice the smell will get less and less.
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Well the idea with the steam was to kill bacteria and to bring it to the top. Then of course extractor on vacuum only to get it out.. and then ya with water as well after.
 
so an update!

at 1:30am I found that the carpet and the seat were completely dry. This is impressive due to me completely soaking the seat all the way through earlier, also it's cold and rainy out.

Anyhow, the carpet has NO smell to it anywhere. The underside of the seat (foam side) where it was really bad (due to me not being able to get to earlier with the seat in the car) I couldn't smell anything anymore! The top of the seat cushion has just a little bit ... hardly noticeable though. I would say I got about 90 percent out of that seat and 100% out of that carpet. Impressive since this was a more than once accident area over time!

I did spray some more Natures Miracle on both sides of the seat and then also on the carpet ... but a fairly light layer just to make sure it's as good as it's going to get.

So for anyone else needing this. I did the steps in my first post .... then took out the seat. Turned it upside down and saturated it all the way through the foam to the other side with 50/50 water and vinegar. I soaked the carpet as well. I let them sit for about an hour. I used my flat rectangle attachment thing on my shopvac to suck up the water in both the seat and then the carpet. After I did that I then did use water and the extractor on the carpet a couple of good times. I did not use the extractor again on the seat. I then sprayed both heavily with Natures Miracle again and then put air movers on them. One for the carpet and two for the seat ( the seat was at a back angle and air movers were angled at the foam bottom and one on top of the seat cushion)

A few hours later and the smell is gone from the carpet and the seat is about odor free!

I do not think that they will need to be replaced now.

EDIT: I just found that rectangle thing I was talking about .. it is the mytee SOS extraction tool. Goes on a shop vac and pulls water from deeper in carpets and seats.
 
You can get a UV light and look for spots of urine you have missed. It will have to be dark, but its pretty easy to spot urine stains with it.

The urine smell will subside as it dries. Every time you wet it you reactivate any that has been left behind.

Check out janitorial cleaner supply houses for enzyme chemicals. I believe I'm not supposed to post links but enzyme flooding of the area followed by deep extraction is the method of choice in the carpet care industry. Enzyme products quit working when they dry.

The device you're referring to suck out moisture in the carpet padding is commonly called a "water claw". If you search that term you'll find videos of products and techniques to use. There is a small consumer grade water claw I've seen for around $45. The commercial ones are at least $150.
 
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