Removing collinite 845 to use my new flex 3401

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I just applied a coat of 845 a week ago and I i just bought a new flex 3401 with the autogeek discount going on now.

My car is a 1991 toyota celica all-trac that's black and the paint needs serious attention. No fading but lots of swirl scratches that I want to get rid of. I currently have a porter cable 7424xp and that couldn't repair the paint. This is bugging me so that's the reason for the new buffer but how can I remove the current wax layer?
I read chemical guys citrus wash works good to remove wax. Should I just get a 8oz bottle to wash and remove the wax or is their something better?
 
When you compound/polish the paint to correct, it will remove the lsp as well.
 
Hammer77 said:
When you compound/polish the paint to correct, it will remove the lsp as well.
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Ok, I just thought it would be a bad idea to compound/polish over a recent layer of wax. Thanks for clearing that up :)
 
Well depending on severity of paint condition you probably will need to get a set of polishing pads from heavy cutting to finishing pads, there try a test spot with different pad and compound or polish combos to see what will give you the best results in least amount of time, based on your description you definetly need a cutting compound and than applying a polish to refine the paint to get it rwdy for you LSP of choice.
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Agree with the others, the compound and cutting that will be required will remove any LSP.

Rick

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lalojamesliz said:
This is the kit I bought. That and a green pad. I didn't want to pass up the $125 off deal :)
Menzerna FLEX XC3401 Maximum Shine Kit
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This kit only has 3 pads and you purchased a 4th pad--this is not enough pads. Here's an article by Mike Phillips explaining how many pads you need to do a complete correction--- http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/88109-how-many-pads-do-i-need-buff-out-my-car.htmlhttp://

If you where only using 2-4 pads with your PC this could be the reason you where not getting the correction you wanted.
 
ski2 said:
This kit only has 3 pads and you purchased a 4th pad--this is not enough pads. Here's an article by Mike Phillips explaining how many pads you need to do a complete correction--- http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/88109-how-many-pads-do-i-need-buff-out-my-car.htmlhttp://

If you where only using 2-4 pads with your PC this could be the reason you where not getting the correction you wanted.
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That link isn't working.
I didn't think you need more than a heavy and light cut to get rid of deep swirl marks
 
Here's my toy
It's a 1991 toyota celica all-trac
I had owned this car from 2009-2013 then sold it because I cracked a piston ringland and didn't have anywhere to work on it. In July last year I found the guy I sold it to and bought it back at a price I couldn't refuse :)
I pretty much rebuilt the car mechanically and now it's time for visual repair.
I love this car because my kids love being driven around in it and it's rare. Nobody else has one where I live (Bakersfield,Ca) as far as I know. 700 and something of this model/year were built
 
lalojamesliz said:
Here's my toy
It's a 1991 toyota celica all-trac
I had owned this car from 2009-2013 then sold it because I cracked a piston ringland and didn't have anywhere to work on it. In July last year I found the guy I sold it to and bought it back at a price I couldn't refuse :)
I pretty much rebuilt the car mechanically and now it's time for visual
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That is so cool that you bought it back - sweet ride!
 
Good start with the kit. From what I think after seeing the picture of your car, you're going to need to do a two or maybe three step process.

Step one: Compound with orange pad. (7 or 8 pads) More the better
Step two: Polish with white pad. (6 or 7 pads) More the better
Step three: LSP with white pads. (2 or 3) Can get away with one. I personally like to use few fresh pads

First do a test spot starting with just polish with white pad and see what happens. If you like the finished results then just polish and apply LSP. If not happy, then try compound with orange pad and then do the polish with white pads.

Hopefully all you need to do is step 2 and step 3.

Hope this helps.

Tom
 
TMQ said:
Good start with the kit. From what I think after seeing the picture of your car, you're going to need to do a two or maybe three step process.

Step one: Compound with orange pad. (7 or 8 pads) More the better
Step two: Polish with white pad. (6 or 7 pads) More the better
Step three: LSP with white pads. (2 or 3) Can get away with one. I personally like to use few fresh pads

First do a test spot starting with just polish with white pad and see what happens. If you like the finished results then just polish and apply LSP. If not happy, then try compound with orange pad and then do the polish with white pads.

Hopefully all you need to do is step 2 and step 3.

Hope this helps.

Tom
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Do I really need that many pads? I was thinking 2 pads of orange and white since it's a small car.
I can see how the more the better but what one as planning is 2 pads=half the car then wash and repeat. I'll be able to take my time and since I won't be making any $$$ spending $150 on extra pads is a bit much since I'm starting over right now

I might get the lake country hybrid pads that were suggested
 
If doing larger things, nothing like 6.5 but 5.5 more versatile. Need the Flex 4 3/8 backing plate for 5.5 though.
 
Oh, ok. I thought the 5.5" could be used with the supplied back plate
 
lalojamesliz said:
Do I really need that many pads? I was thinking 2 pads of orange and white since it's a small car.
I can see how the more the better but what one as planning is 2 pads=half the car then wash and repeat. I'll be able to take my time and since I won't be making any $$$ spending $150 on extra pads is a bit much since I'm starting over right now

I might get the lake country hybrid pads that were suggested
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You don’t need that many pads. Stick to your original plan, you’ll be fine. Judging by what you described your situation, you’ll be kicking yourself for spending a bunch of money on unnecessary pads.

Skip the pad cleaner, pads rinse clean with plain water as long as you rinse them in the sink the same night that you use them. Leave them overnight and then you may need a pad cleaner/degreaser to get them clean. The only pads that won’t come clean are the ones you’ll use to apply sealant/wax.

Trust me, it’s completely possible. You can save a bunch of money and do it just like you had planned to.
 
ski2 said:
Sorry for the mix up!! Here's the full link How many pads do I need to buff out my car?
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Thank you for sharing that very useful info.
I'll admit when I did my 08 toyota sequoia (black) I only used 2 pads. I used one, then when it got harder to cut with I cleaned it and switched to the next pad. I did that a few times but this explains what happened.
That was the 1st car I ever compound/polished..... I owned it since new and I never had it even used a claybar on it! It looks much better even with just my pc7424xp but now it's time to use a flex 3401 on it. I'll order more pads I guess ha ha ha.
Since I have your attention :) I'm ordering the lake country hybrid pads... should I stick with the menzerna chemicals I'm getting in the kit I ordered or go with something else?
 
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