Removing Simoniz Glass Coat in 10 seconds - 2015 Range Rover - Paint Correction - Attention to Detailing Peoria

[zmcgovern45]

Just wanted to share a brief tutorial on how we removed Simoniz Glasscoat from this 2015 Range Rover.

... that's all there is to it!







Im the MANA little humor to start your day... Simoniz Glasscoat isn't known for being a great product around here. I have never used it, but it is pushed hard at dealerships in our area where customers will pay $700-$1200 (from what I have been told) for application of this product to their paint. After speaking with a couple guys who were "certified Simoniz installers", their process simply consists of wiping the coating onto a car when a customer pays for that service... one that was likely already waxed upon arrival to the dealership. So there is no decontamination, no polishing, no solvent wipe... none of that stuff. Just 30 minutes of work to wipe the coating on in most cases.


When I was doing the initial cleaning on the vehicle, I noticed something pretty cool. I removed the license plate cover before washing, and during the pressure rinse, it was easy to see the area that had been covered by the license plate & mounting bracket repelled water like crazy, but the areas immediately around it showed no signs of beading or sheeting. Perhaps Simoniz would hold up much better on the entire car if the vehicle was properly prepped before application. Keep in mind this car is just 1 year old.

In the end, the vehicle needed a multi-step paint correction to restore the paint. We used Griot's Garage BOSS Fast Correcting Cream on a Correcting Pad followed by Essence on a Yellow Rupes Pad. Great results!

The vehicle was then covered with GTechniq Crystal Serum Light for added protection and gloss (watch in HD).

 

[04accord]

nice work, would be interesting to see how one of the popular consumer paint coatings would hold up if there was no special prep beforehand.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I didn't watch the video, but I'm not sure I'm understanding--are you saying that the area behind the plate wasn't coated? Or wasn't waxed before it was coated? Are you saying the coating was still there and it came off the rest of the car?

 

[zmcgovern45]

nice work, would be interesting to see how one of the popular consumer paint coatings would hold up if there was no special prep beforehand.

I've done some testing applying a few consumer coatings directly on top of a polished panel (using M205 for polish, then wiping very well with a clean towel, but no IPA step), and in every case the surface was still very hydrophobic after 1 year. Then I sold the car, so testing was stopped.

I didn't watch the video, but I'm not sure I'm understanding--are you saying that the area behind the plate wasn't coated? Or wasn't waxed before it was coated? Are you saying the coating was still there and it came off the rest of the car?

I have no idea of knowing what was done behind the plate. It would be my assumption that it had a coating applied based on the hydrophobic behavior. Lack of beading on the rest of the vehicle is not a true indication of coating failure, but we would expect any quality coating to still exhibit some hydrophobic activity after this short period of time. If the vehicle was waxed prior to coating application, it is certainly possible the coating never properly bonded and is in fact gone. If it was not waxed, then the hydrophobic properties were just very short lived, which is not impressive given the price paid for these services.

 

[Marc08EX]

Great job as always Zach!

 

[Eric@CherryOnTop]

Good write up Zach. My wife bought a brand new Mazda CX-5 in January and it had the Simoniz coating on it. If they didn't sell her that particular car it was going to be a showroom demo, so she didn't pay for the coating (they charge 700 for it), but the first time I washed it I noticed how little beading and sheeting there was. Maybe time for a new layer of protection and consider the coating a wash.


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[FUNX650]

I've never seen any vehicles that had
been Waxed at the OEMs' factory...
prior to being delivered to Dealerships.

But...then again:
Stranger things have happened.


Bob

 

[zmcgovern45]

Great job as always Zach!

Thanks!

Good write up Zach. My wife bought a brand new Mazda CX-5 in January and it had the Simoniz coating on it. If they didn't sell her that particular car it was going to be a showroom demo, so she didn't pay for the coating (they charge 700 for it), but the first time I washed it I noticed how little beading and sheeting there was. Maybe time for a new layer of protection and consider the coating a wash.


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Yep, unfortunately I haven't found a dealership who takes the time to do it the right way... this coating may be nice, but without proper care and install, I doubt it will ever live up to what they claim it "should" do.

I've never seen any vehicles that had
been Waxed at the OEMs' factory...
prior to being delivered to Dealerships.

But...then again:
Stranger things have happened.


Bob

My wording wasn't too clear, but I didn't say it was waxed at the factory... I was told by the dealership detailer that the cars were waxed upon arriving to the dealership as part of the new car prep, and if it was later decided that Simoniz would be installed, it was done over the existing wax.

 

[WillSports3]

When I bought my new car, they called it the Simoniz paint protection instead of a glass coating. Not sure if it's the same thing you're talking about here but the dealership talked about it lasting for a full year with each treatment and super protection, etc etc etc. Wanted an extra 1300 (Canadian) or so for it. I looked at that and just said no thanks.. for 1300 I can get a new car prep with cquartz finest or modesta on it. I didn't think they'd advertise it as a glass coating.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

My wording wasn't too clear, but I didn't say it was waxed at the factory... I was told by the dealership detailer that the cars were waxed upon arriving to the dealership as part of the new car prep, and if it was later decided that Simoniz would be installed, it was done over the existing wax.

Optimum is selling a pro coating that is intended to protect cars on the dealer lot...I wonder how that is going for them.

"Optimum Paint Guard is a ceramic paint coating designed to protect car dealer inventory by reducing wash induced marring from lot washers, and preventing damage from bird lime acid etching and other corrosive substances...Optimum Paint Guard is applied to the vehicle's paint work as the new stock is received and prepared for display."

 

[oboroballa03]

Me and my wife got a 2014 edge with only 3000 miles on it and i drove it home and clay barred and stuff and took it back the next day for them to apply this simoniz glass coat and i will say i am impressed with it its been one year and its not garage kept been in snow salt and rain but the water still beads up and rolls off like crazy. We got the coating and the interior done for 300 so i couldn't resist i was eager to see how it would do and its a lifetime warranty against stains and stuff on the interior and against etching on the exterior. Although i don't think i will use the warranty but for some reason something does happen i got it. So if a car is prepped right i think its a good coating from my experience. They told me i could polish it and bring it back for another coating at no charge whenever if i am not satisfied with it also so u cant beat it lol. I do wash it every week or two so that might play a role as well to the durability not just letting bugs dirt and salt sit on it.

 

[GSKR]

People fall for that finance office upsell all the time.1000 bucks for the ultimate protection at 17.00 extra a month in there payment heck why not.After all they get unlimited free swirled up car washes for free,and a 5 year coating protection for god knows what there applying in 20 minutes.The public is blinded by that service and will gladly finance a coating job for 60 months with interest on top of that.

 

[oboroballa03]

Our salesman told us it was 300 and that's what we told they guy and that's what employees get it for so they had to give it to us for the price we said and we paid it in cash but all u pay for is the warranty really because it doesn't cost that much but it has done a great job on my vehicle honestly. I see and hear a lot of people bad mouth that stuff i understand them washing it and not prepping it but i did that myself and they just applied it for me and it looks great but a lot of people don't understand anything about detailing and proper washing and prepping. When i got to the car lot i used meguiars d114 and wiped it all down and told them i wanted to watch them to see how it goes on and that they didn't wash it and swirl it up. I think the next car i get i am gonna get some of the PA goodies and do my own that stuff looks amazing on the few cars i have seen.

 

[zmcgovern45]

Me and my wife got a 2014 edge with only 3000 miles on it and i drove it home and clay barred and stuff and took it back the next day for them to apply this simoniz glass coat and i will say i am impressed with it its been one year and its not garage kept been in snow salt and rain but the water still beads up and rolls off like crazy. We got the coating and the interior done for 300 so i couldn't resist i was eager to see how it would do and its a lifetime warranty against stains and stuff on the interior and against etching on the exterior. Although i don't think i will use the warranty but for some reason something does happen i got it. So if a car is prepped right i think its a good coating from my experience. They told me i could polish it and bring it back for another coating at no charge whenever if i am not satisfied with it also so u cant beat it lol. I do wash it every week or two so that might play a role as well to the durability not just letting bugs dirt and salt sit on it.

Glad to hear it is holding up well for you with a more thorough prep process.

People fall for that finance office upsell all the time.1000 bucks for the ultimate protection at 17.00 extra a month in there payment heck why not.After all they get unlimited free swirled up car washes for free,and a 5 year coating protection for god knows what there applying in 20 minutes.The public is blinded by that service and will gladly finance a coating job for 60 months with interest on top of that.

Exactly... but in the end, it is a business, so you can't fault the salesman I guess.

Our salesman told us it was 300 and that's what we told they guy and that's what employees get it for so they had to give it to us for the price we said and we paid it in cash but all u pay for is the warranty really because it doesn't cost that much but it has done a great job on my vehicle honestly. I see and hear a lot of people bad mouth that stuff i understand them washing it and not prepping it but i did that myself and they just applied it for me and it looks great but a lot of people don't understand anything about detailing and proper washing and prepping. When i got to the car lot i used meguiars d114 and wiped it all down and told them i wanted to watch them to see how it goes on and that they didn't wash it and swirl it up. I think the next car i get i am gonna get some of the PA goodies and do my own that stuff looks amazing on the few cars i have seen.

You're 100% correct - you are not paying for the product, you are paying for the BS warranty that they hope you never make a claim towards. If you search for Simoniz GlassCoat, you can buy it online for ~$20/bottle which will do several vehicles. I'm actually quite surprised they allowed you to do your own prep and still offered you the warranty. It would seem that to me, they would want to be accountable for all work done prior to the coating, but perhaps they understand it makes no real difference in the end. Regardless, I doubt many other dealerships would allow for that to happen.

 

[oboroballa03]

Yea they were pretty cool with everything i had it out with the finance manager he kept telln me you detail guys might have your meguiars and mothers but you don't have this i said there are plenty of coating companies out there you just don't necessarily have the warranty. I told him i would be sure to file a claim if it fails too because he was talking real big about it but in his defense it has surprised me lol....and i have a bottle of it myself the guy at the car lot gave me the rest and told me not to say anything so i may have to reapply it myself just to get a feel for a coating i have never done one myself. I just get a little nervous about it as i am a hands on learner i just would like to have someone show me in person but i will take the leap soon enough it cant be that difficult.

 

[Shark Politur]

Simoniz ( established in 1910) is one of the best companies in USA (UK) with history that all... especially new "coating" start ups would die for to be in their place both financially & in terms of quality.
Sharkpolitur love Simoniz, it's not available in Israel at the moment but they were first to develop blue polymer sealant (Made in UK) that's still a benchmark.
Their Liquid Diamond™ products from the past are still brand name, there are copies like liquid glass etc. that simply try to build something on the success of Simoniz.
If I ever see any their products, I'll grab it without thinking twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ChrRN40HF0

 

[LC DETAIL]

no problem to use essence before csl?

 

[zmcgovern45]

no problem to use essence before csl?

Since CSL is also a silica based coating, there should not be any issues based on my testing with various other silica coatings... but to be safe, we did an Eraser wipe down before coating anyway just to make sure any residual oils had been removed.

 

[LC DETAIL]

thank you very much, always a pleasure to read your comments

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