Renny Doyle Beadmaker Revisited - 2month Standalone Review

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Here’s a review I’m sure some of you weren’t expecting... But like I’ve always stated, I never had anything against this product at all.. Just a big misunderstanding caused by an over sensitive person who turned something out of nothing... But anyways, here’s a review that’s been 2 months in the making. A review unlike anyone that I’ve seen posted anywhere so far.

For the past 2 months I’ve heard so many people talk about “Beadmaker’s cool, but it’s longevity’s poor” or this and that, but it all seemed to revolve around its lack of longevity. Meanwhile I was using Beadmaker as my sole lsp in South Los Angeles where the air quality is so bad that I’ve had numerous AIO’s fail baggie tests and gather loads of contaminants within a matter of just 2 weeks, several times I’ve tested..

Just to refresh the state of my paint: I polished my Cadillac with HD Speed on March 18th. Seven days later there was next to no beading from HD Speed... From that point forward I began using Beadmaker on a constant basis, initially I was sort of interested in going through it and moving back to my normal lsp but right about that time I began to adapt a newer faster way of maintaining my car which I figured couldn’t hurt in the meantime while I used up the rest of my gallon of Beadmaker.

But then I started not only liking this new faster and easier way of maintaining my car clean, but I also began seeing increasingly more impressive results from the Beadmaker, almost as if it was building up not only strength but also increased slickness the more I used it. Certainly no drawbacks in the shine department either...

Results became increasingly more impressive that I even went ahead and ordered a 2nd gallon of it. [which arrived a few days ago]

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Now here’s where I feel the need to set the record straight as far as all the naysayers out there chirping about “it’s short lived” or whatever.
I’ve been using it as a standalone for 2 straight months and up until right now when I walked outside and did a baggie test the vertical panels are still 100% smooth. The horizontal panels, i.e. the hood trucklid, roof and just now beginning to feel the ever slightest beginnings of random tiny bumps few and far between, I’d say the horizontal panels are still about 89% smooth and free of bonded contaminants after 2 months of waterless and rinseless washing, using Beadmaker as a quik drying aid every single time. I’ve done 2 maybe 3 bucket washes including todays wash the entire time. Let me tell you that in this air quality where run of the mill lsps come to die fast deaths that this 2 month standalone test is nothing short of remarkable! I’m impressed, and I don’t impress that easy.

I think that if it hadn’t rained twice this week along with me letting 7 days pass without doing my normal wipedown it would still be 100% free of bonded contaminants across every panel.

I’m officially a believer of this stuff. It’s solid.

Those people talking about short lived need to show some results of what they’re yapping about!

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...Or maybe they just need to allow 1 form of protection do it’s job instead of “topping” this and “topping” that... I’ve said it for the longest time, none of these products are meant to be topped over anything else. You’re only inhibiting a product to work as intended by causing a traffic jam on your paint where neither product can properly bond and do its job. All of these products are meant to be used as stand alones. All of em.
 
Ok, but if you are using it every time you wash the car (from what I understand from your comments)... how can you determine how long it lasts?

You have used a full gallon of it in what? 2 months? I would not call that a durable product LOL

If you really want to know how long it lasts, you have to apply it once and check every time you wash the car if it's still there.
 
Ok, but if you are using it every time you wash the car (from what I understand from your comments)... how can you determine how long it lasts?

You have used a full gallon of it in what? 2 months? I would not call that a durable product LOL

If you really want to know how long it lasts, you have to apply it once and check every time you wash the car if it's still there.

For my two cents I could care less about how durable Bead Maker is, I use it often and l Love the results. It's a great all around "spray on" detailer.
 
Ok, but if you are using it every time you wash the car (from what I understand from your comments)... how can you determine how long it lasts?

You have used a full gallon of it in what? 2 months? I would not call that a durable product LOL

If you really want to know how long it lasts, you have to apply it once and check every time you wash the car if it's still there.

This is how much I’ve used in exactly 2 months.

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Now lets put longevity in proper perspective here... Are we expecting the same kind of longevity from a liquid spray sealant as we would a dedicated liquid or paste sealant? I’m certainly not, but then again this stuff comes in a gallon, and as we can see I still have 1/4th of a gallon left after 2 months of constant use every 4-5 days. I can live with that, especially considering how fast and easy it goes on/off.

People who put this products longevity up against unrealistic expectations and wonder why it doesn’t hold up the same way their Colinite does need to apply a bit of common sense.

On the other hand, nobody applies something like Colinite or fill in the blank dedicated sealant every 4-5 days because it would be a huge chore to do so.

2 completely different user experiences yet the same end result. Standalone protection to fit your particular needs. Just like every product sold these days.
 
Wow...miracles never cease

I've read through this all and applying it every 4-5 days is alot but because of the cost you can actually do this but even still, not exactly cheap. I mean you could basically do the same thing with Ech2o mixed as a QD because even the smallest bottle can make what, 3 gallons or so IIRC. Now I'm not going against Beadmaker when I say this but I'm just sayin'.

With that said, if you like now and you really do seem to based off of what you've used in 2 months, GO FOR IT but just remember this, WE TOLD YOU SO

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I totaly understand that this is a product that needs to be used often. But longevity from it is how long it lives on it's own without reapplyied. And the claim of around 2 months is apply it once and reapply is only needed to be done before it fails and just begin to weakens. So apply it as a drying aid or dry every 4-5 days in the part of stand alone LSP is not a longevity from it. I have products that is as easy to apply that last 2-3 months with only washed with Reset and no drying aid is used and it works as day one I applyied it.

I do not see any wrong with useing BM as often as you do and others. If you like it use it as often as needed. But if I'm not wrong it's marketed as a spray sealant and not as a QD. And the claimed longevity is way longer than a week. Again no wrong in useing it often as weekly but it says nothing of the longevity from it when you used weekly. Nice to find a product that you are satisfied with and works in how you use it.
 
If you like it use it as often as needed. But if I'm not wrong it's marketed as a spray sealant and not as a QD.

I don’t use or think of it like a quik detailer. I think of it like a spray sealant that would likely cause a ton of swirls if attempted to use like a quik detailer to remove even light dust.

Also, for me personally I judge longevity 1st and foremost on how long a product can protect my paint from contaminants bonding to it. Beading is a distant secondary... Don’t get me wrong, I love beading just as much as the next guy, but IMO it’s useless if the paint isn’t smooth down to its core because if it’s not then the true optimal experience and potential isn’t being had.

I think it’s bad practice to use any spray sealant, even and pretty much especially when used as a topper over a dedicated layer of some other protection because the longer you wait between applications the longer you leave your paint out to dry inviting contaminants to start bonding to it and once they’re on claying is the only way to get them off, which involves starting over which IMO is unnecessary when it can easily be prevented.

Some people like to apply their choice of “drying aid” every 3rd wash or so.. I never understand the logic behind that. It’s not as if it’s somehow going to build up to a fault because like removes like or at best very minimaly build on top of it and continues protecting, but IMO never does it cause a negative effect nor is any drying aid so expensive that you cringe at how much it costs to pull the spray nozzle a few times on the paint you’re about to wipe a towel across.

If a spray product offers benefits like slickness, gloss, and protection on top of it, why only use it once or twice per month? I’d rather add extra pop everytime instead of just once or twice per month.
 
Here’s a couple of shots of the water behavior from the couple of bucket wash rinses I’ve done within these 2 months. The beading is very respectable.

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Water behavior wasn’t top priority for me especially since I was mostly surviving on waterless & rinseless washing, but the times it was on display it never showed any signs of weakness.

The bottom 2 pics were taken during the 1st week. The top pics was taken recently. You can see how the beading got noticeably stronger as time went by.
 
I tried some of a friends. Looks Like felt like griots speed shine. I love speedshine for what it is.... a high quality QD


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I tried some of a friends. Looks Like felt like griots speed shine. I love speedshine for what it is.... a high quality QD


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Have you tried Best of Show spray wax

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I think some people reading this thread would interpret Eldo’s findings as proof of BM’s protection abilities (how well it deflects contaminants, among other things), rather than durability (how long an application of a product lasts and protects). Maybe that’s the confusion, but either way, I totally understand what he’s saying, and glad he has a good option for the SoCal environment.
 
This example of Beadmaker pretty much sums it up for me.
I bought this 2019 Rogue last Sunday.
I told them not to wash it, detail etc. I did a quick wipe down with Poor Boys Wash. Then I wiped it down with Beadmaker. 99% of the non 1% centers were blown away by these pics I shared with them. They'd be happy as happy can be. No clay, no iron detox, no baggie test test, no polish, no AIO, no longevity smenity. Let's not forget it's a detailing spray.

That's freakish no matter what.

And I must have 30-40 spray on products and have used them all.

Been giving those all away to my local friends who are the 99% ers.

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The average car owner would be blown away if they knew all they had to do was wipe their car down occasionally with Beadmaker and it would shine like this. And the plus is it works on window, trim, chrome etc.

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I'm no fan boy, just straight truth, this product is next level and Renny is a stand up guy. Partied with him and the DoDo peeps and a few others to the wee hours of the night at the hotel at Detail Fest 10. Great time. Renny shout out to you, wish you were more active on our forum. Pop in occaisionally brother.
Spike

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PS Gyeon Q2 first time use, way to greasy, shiny for me. The Florida sun just melts this stuff forever. It never really dries. Hasta la vista baby. I put that on Sunday and it you can still wipe it off and it slung all over the lower trim, yuck. Two thumbs down. And I went super light and the tires were clean and pristine. You can see how the side with full sun still looks wet vs the side not in the sun. The problem is, in the early morning full Florida sun is on one side and in the afternoon on the other so it heats it up and makes it greasy. The dirt and dust on it in just 5 days is insane!
 
Just to back up what I'm saying about Q2.
I just went outside, rubbed lightly with a paper towel about 6 inches back and forth twice. That pretty much says it all. That's less than 65 miles of driving.
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Just to back up what I'm saying about Q2.
I just went outside, rubbed lightly with a paper towel about 6 inches back and forth twice. That pretty much says it all. That's less than 65 miles of driving.
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Can I suggest Hydrosilex Slick

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I have too many as it is, at least a dozen different ones. I'm done. :nomore:

I'm just glad I didn't put it on my black trim.

I'll stick with WETS for that.
 
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