Review: Coatings, Waxes, and Clear Bra Oh My!

Evan.J

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Review: Coatings, Waxes, and Clear Bra Oh My!


Introduction:

Lately here at the Geek there has been lots of talk about Clear Bra's and what can be used and what can't be used along with a lot of what if's so Im hoping to maybe clear some of that up at least on the side of applying these items on top of a clear bra specifically Xpel Ultimate film.

For about 6 month now I have been teaming up with a gentleman from the Pittsburgh area who does the best work I have ever seen when I comes to working with and applying PPF to vehicles. I had asked him if I could get some film to do some testing. Well with all the talk lately here I thought it would be perfect time to do such a test and a review.

Products Used:
  • Xpel Ultimate Self-healing Film
  • CarPro Eraser
  • Wolfgang Fuzion Wax
  • BlackFire BlackIce
  • Pinnacle Black Label 850 Diamond Suface Coating
  • Opti-Coat
  • C.Quartz Uk
  • Son1c Wax

*Additionally I used some foam applicator pads for the waxes. I used the LC gold applicator for the Black Label 850. I then used the Opti-Dual bond applicator for the Opti-Coat. I used all supplied items that come in the C.Quartz 30 mL kit.

Process:

I began with my sheet on film and gave the entire side of the film a clean wipe down with CarPro Eraser and a microfiber towel to ensure a clean surface and to allow optimal bonding for all the products.

I taped off areas of the film and then labeled each area with a certain product name.

The first one up was the Wolfgang Fuzion. Everyone here knows of this wax and the high status it holds for being top notch, easy application, gloss, and great protection. I applied the wax with a yellow foam applicator in the straight line technique. I allowed the wax to sit on the surface for 10 minutes before removing with a microfiber towel.


Next up is the infamous BlackFire BlackIce. When this wax was released I feel it made a huge splash and sure turned some heads with the gloss and protecting it has added to dark and light colored vehicles alike. I applied this wax in the same fashion and same manner as I did the Wolfgang Fuzion wax. I allowed the wax to sit for 10 minutes before removing with a microfiber towel.

Next we hand the latest in the coating world Pinnacles Black Label 850 Diamond Surface Coating. Autogeek sure pumped this release up with all the teasing and the contests but it was fun and I was glad to see some more coatings enter the very slim market. On a side note we are all sucker when it comes to new products and the releases of them so they know what makes us tick.
The application of this coating is very simple and straight forward. I used a half of a spray directly onto the surface of the film. I the took my LC gold applicator and began to spread the coating over the surface to ensure the entire surface was covered. I immediately then buffed off any excess with a microfiber towel.

Next coating on the list was Opti-Coat. Opti-coat has been around tested, tried, and has all the reviews and the longevity to back up its claims so no need to speak much to it other than it works and works well. I applied the Opti-coat with the Dual applicator and I only used 4 drops in the applicator and spread it on the surface using a cross hatch pattern. I let the Opti-Coat sit for 10 minutes before buffing off any high spots. If you are using Opti-coat or think of it I highly recommend you get the dual foam applicator. I find that this applicator allows you to use even less and nothing get wasted or lost in an foam like it does when you use the foam applicator that is supplied in the kits.

Next was CQuartz UK. Not much is said about the UK version but for those that don't know this coating is made for colder temps and cures faster (24 hours) than then regular CQuartz (48 hours). I haves used the UK version a few time and I like it. The application is very easy and straight forward as well. Supplied in the kit is a foam rectangle and small suede towels. I took a towel and wrapped it around the foam rectangle and applied a few drops to the face of the towel. I then took the towel and applicator and began to apply the CQuartz in a crosshatch pattern until the surface felt dry. After I took a microfiber towel and buffed off any extra residue.

Finally, I have one last one to test and this one is our own member Son1C a.k.a. Drew's Carnubavor Wax. I have been very excited to test this wax out and due to the cold weather I have been unable to until now. The first thing that comes to mind with this wax is candy. The smell makes my mouth water because I have a sweet tooth and the smell is great. The application if very simple so I took a foam applicator pad and just put a little bit on the pad and applied the wax in a straight line technique. I then allowed the wax to sit and cure for 10 minutes before removing with a microfiber towel.

I did leave on area open and had nothing on the surface. It was cleaned with CarPro Eraser just like everything else.

Photos:

Here is the test film


CarPro Eraser ready for a wipe down:


The entire panel sprayed down


Here is each section sprayed:







First Test Areas:




BlackFire BlackIce:




Pinnacle Black Label 850:




Opti-Coat:



CQuartz UK:



Son1c Wax Carnubavore:



All the areas after the applications:
 
Continued....

Questions:

How will these coatings and waxes hold up to water?

Will anything have a detrimental affect on the film?

Will there be any discoloration?

How long will the waxes last? How long will the coatings last?



What questions does anyone else have?



Summary:

I plan to expose this to snow rain cold and anything else I can think of as well. I look forward to seeing how this goes over time. So far I can say that the Pinnacle Black Label is slick as can be. I was not expecting it to be as slick as it is so that already has me excited. If any one has any questions comments or concerns please feel free to ask away I will be more than happy to answer what I can and if I can't I will be sure to get an answer.


Thanks for watching and stay tuned for updates! :props:
 
@Evan: Thanks for the time and effort you have taken to do this PPF/LSP-testing!!

What questions does anyone else have?
Upon seeing the PPF's-placement on the testing-layout table:
Has the PPF's "release liner" been removed prior to any testing/testing products?

Thanks for watching and stay tuned for updates!
I enjoyed watching. And:
Thanks for the reciprocal-offer...I most certainly will.

Bob
 
That is one hell of a write up and a good read. Excellent work Evan.
Thanks Chris

@Evan: Thanks for the time and effort you have taken to do this PPF/LSP-testing!!


Upon seeing the PPF's-placement on the testing-layout table:
Has the PPF's "release liner" been removed prior to any testing/testing products?


I enjoyed watching. And:
Thanks for the reciprocal-offer...I most certainly will.

Bob

Bob the Release liner is still on the back of the film. This should have no adverse affect to the top of the film and what was placed on the top coat.
 
Thanks for constructing this review! I for one am anticipating the results.
 
Definitely subb'ing to this thread!

Thanks for the write up and dedication Evan. Looking forward to reading your thoughts and comments on the products you are reviewing.
 
Bob the Release liner is still on the back of the film.
This should have no adverse affect to the top of the film and what was placed on the top coat.
Not saying that leaving the release liner in place will, (or will not for that matter) have adverse affects...

My thoughts were that of:
-Isn't XPel's Ultimate PPF porous?
-What about the film's adhesive being covered-up by the release liner---not being exposed to a substrate?

And now I'm also thinking:
-What about this film's "self-healing" characteristics?
-Will an assortment of LSP's detract from the film's "healing process"?
-Does this film need to be bombarded with contaminates, simulating their over the road attacks upon PPF,
in order to test the film's self-healing capabilities---with and without LSP applications?

Carry on...
I'll await for further down the road test results.

:)

Bob
 
Not saying that leaving the release liner in place will, (or will not for that matter) have adverse affects...

My thoughts were that of:
-Isn't XPel's Ultimate PPF porous?
-What about the film's adhesive being covered-up by the release liner---not being exposed to a substrate?

All Paint Protection Films are porous. Any manufacturer of PPF are going to apply a topcoat to the film in order to seal the pores of from the environment. Xpel Ultimate has a top coat that is true automotive clear coat and is much more dupable than the average top coats of other manufactures or PPF. With that fact that Xpel Ultimate implements an automotive clear coats to the film you can dump on oils, kerosene, lacquer thinner, brake fluid, and so one and not have any staining effects like other might.

And now I'm also thinking:
-What about this film's "self-healing" characteristics?
-Will an assortment of LSP's detract from the film's "healing process"?
-Does this film need to be bombarded with contaminates, simulating their over the road attacks upon PPF,
in order to test the film's self-healing capabilities---with and without LSP applications?

Carry on...
I'll await for further down the road test results.

:)

Bob
 
All Paint Protection Films are porous. Any manufacturer of PPF are going to apply a topcoat to the film in order to seal the pores of from the environment.
Xpel Ultimate has a top coat that is true automotive clear coat and is much more dupable than the average top coats of other manufactures or PPF.

With that fact that Xpel Ultimate implements an automotive clear coats to the film
you can dump on oils, kerosene, lacquer thinner, brake fluid, and so one and not have any staining effects like other might.
First and Foremost:
XPel's is the only PPF I have, or ever will, use on my vehicles!!

Next:
I know about the immersion testing protocols for the petro products you've listed---gasoline and acetone is included.
(This PPF, then, by all intents and purposes: Should scornfully laugh at the LSP's used in this test?!?!)

Also:
I'm not so sure of XPel's urethane clear coat being the same as a true automotive clear coat as you are.

So again...Thanks for this test, and your replies as well.


Just thinking aloud...
I kinda wonder what affect, if any, ammonia would have on this PPF.

:)

Bob
 
Additionally to test the coatings and the self healing properties I will be using a wire brush to scuff up the areas.

When it comes to waxes sealants or anything else that we in the detailing wold use the only thing that Xpel recommends is that consumer or Detailer stays away from is any products that contain petroleum distillate's. Petroleum distillates will break down any polyurethane product.
 
Additionally to test the coatings and the self healing properties

I will be using a wire brush

to scuff up the areas.
^^^OUCH!!^^^

Petroleum distillates will break down any polyurethane product
^^^Some: almost immediately...Some: It's accumulative.^^^

When it comes to waxes sealants or anything else that we in the detailing wold use the only thing that Xpel recommends is that consumer or Detailer
stays away from is any products that contain petroleum distillate's. .
Almost seems contradictory to the immersion testing done with
the petroleum-based products listed earlier, per the following:
you can dump on oils, kerosene, lacquer thinner, brake fluid, and so one and not have any staining effects like other might.
Next:
I know about the immersion testing protocols for the petro products you've listed---gasoline and acetone is included.

Go figure!!


:)

Bob
 
Well Bob if you haven't seen the self healing in action done with a wire brush and then healing with heat well your in for a treat! Maybe that will call for a video.

As for the petroleum distillates I think what is comes down to is the longevity that the items are on the surface over a long period of time. While testing has shown no effects to the film better to aire on the side of caution.
 
I am also subscribed and very interested in the future results. Great write up and reviews...
 
Incredible write up comparison Evan! Thanks for taking the time to do it and share with us. I will be following along.
Not a problem Mike! It will be my pleasure. I am very interested in the finding as well and looking forward to the results with the coated areas.

Can't wait to see the out come :)
:iagree:
 
I had xpel film on my last car. Eventually any product I put on it would eventually run off. My wife always commented.. " Your car has a runny nose" since a puddle of product would be on my bumper. It does take a while to happen though, months. Wish I had taken pictures.

Given that, the film was great!! Hardly noticeable, didn't turn color even being on a white car, and bugs didn't stain it. After two years with that car I was very pleased with the xpel. And even though product wouldn't stay on it it always looked good.

With all that said. I mostly used Wolfgang DGPS and the Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant on the expel. Sometimes Fuzion too.
 
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